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Cellular Phone Forum / General / General Topics / October 2003How will phone number portability affect cell phone rates?
Any thoughts on the above topic? I'm currently in the market for a new carrier, and rates seem to have gone down. I guess carriers are trying to lock people in before the number portability ruling goes into effect next month. Do you guys expect another price war after its implemented? Rex > Any thoughts on the above topic? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Rex Prices will only go down at the losers. In England where protability has been in for 3 years, discounts for business went from 10% to 50% after portability. > Any thoughts on the above topic? > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Rex The carriers are always competing. The next "price wars" will be during the Christmas holidays, that's when they will battle for your business. I have had most of the carriers at one time or another .... and some aren't worth having. ATT: I have them currently - fair to good. (8pm non-prime plan) Cingular: Coverage wasn't that good; kept losing the signal NEXTEL: Problems at the switch (phone co.) and the phone didn't always ring. Direct connect worked very well. SPRINT-PCS: Probably the worst experience in my life! VERIZON: Never had service -- but I'm interested. VOICESTREAM: Who are they? (KM) > I have had most of the carriers at one >time or another .... and some aren't worth having. Although they all have their problems, they all have good and bad areas that they serve. >ATT: I have them currently - fair to good. (8pm non-prime plan) I have AT&T and find that the coverage and service is as good as can possibly be expected. I find that their customer service is better than most. >Cingular: Coverage wasn't that good; kept losing the signal Cingular where I live is pretty good. My wife and son both have Cingular and my partners daughter has Cingular. No complaints. Two of these plans are TDMA only and one is a GSM/TDMA (Nokia 6340i) plan. >NEXTEL: They are not a cellular company so I have never bought any of their walkie talkie service. The sound quality is walkie talkie like and those that I know that have Nextel walkie talkies know not to call me on them. I ALWAYS ask them to go to a phone and call me back. >SPRINT-PCS: Probably the worst experience in my life! I have had Sprint since they started selling service here in the DFW market. I have been through all the pains and find that their service is more than acceptable and of course the Voice Quality is second to none! As for bad experience with them, their customer service typically is very bad. >VERIZON: Never had service -- but I'm interested. Never had their service and I never will. >VOICESTREAM: Who are they? Now, T-Mobile I find that where they have service it is mostly acceptable. I find that there are more echo's and much lower earpeice levels with them that using the same phone overseas or on other GSM carriers here in the states. Acceptable service all 'round though. For reference, I have - AT&T WS Digital One Rate (TDMA) AT&T WS GSM on a National plan Sprint PCS with their no roaming plan T-Mobile is family plan with 5 phones Cingular with 3 phones, 2 TDMA and one GAIT As for the subject of this thread, we are all going to have to wait and see but I don't expect much of a change with an already extremely competitive market place. Of all the people that I know of I only know of one person that is going to change his number to a different carrier and that is because his country home has poor service with his current carrier. His wife on the carrier that he is going to change to has excellent coverage there. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net > Do you guys expect another price war after its implemented? > > Rex The projected losers in LNP will likely be in a price war to keep customers. The projected winners probably will avoid a price war, as it is not in their best interest. I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by the carriers with lousy coverage (at least this applies to me and many colleagues and relatives). I have two relatives waiting for November 24th to dump AT&T and move to Verizon, even though Verizon is more expensive. One is actually happy with AT&T TDMA, the other has no signal at all at her house in the East Bay (SF Bay Area), and they share a plan so both will switch. > I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no > longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by > the carriers with lousy coverage (at least this applies to me and > many colleagues and relatives). You know, it's funny, but I'll bet 99 percent of cell phone users overall, make 99 percent of their calls within their own metro city and hardly notice the lousy coverage of some carriers outside of a metro area. -Frank > > I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no > > longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > -Frank You just described T-Mobile's business model. Tom Veldhouse "Thomas T. Veldhouse" <veldy71@yahoo.com> wrote in message news:3f9d2dfd$0$75886 > You just described T-Mobile's business model. Where I live, T-Mobile has lousy service inside the metro area too. They are piggybacking on Cingular's GSM network, and Cingular also has poor coverage of course. > > I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no > > longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > make 99 percent of their calls within their own metro city and hardly notice > the lousy coverage of some carriers outside of a metro area. Perhaps, but in large metro areas coverage is inconsistent throughout the area, and people do travel throughout the area. I.e. in my area, Verizon and AT&T TDMA have the best coverage by far, Cingular, T-Mobile, Sprint, Nextel, and AT&T GSM, the worst. But in each case you could find a location in the metro area where even the carriers with the worst coverage are okay, and you can find areas that the best carriers don't cover. I have only found one place where my Verizon phone can't at least get an analog signal-- the East Palo Alto Ikea. Well living in the hicks north of SF I live near Fairfield only three companies work great here which is AT&T, Nextel and Verizon. Anything base as GSM like t mobile or cingluar. only if you going to spending most of the time near the freeway then I would think about getting one of those services. I was a sprint customer but it got to the point where I was sounding like the guy in the Verizon commercial and kept tell the person " can you hear me now?" so it got to the point where I could not trust sprint anymore. I am a happy Nextel customer since 1995 and it got better since then but if I was not for the two way radio I think I would be with the other big two AT&T or Verizon. So I hope there would be a price war I don't want Nextel get there head to big that the one of the best in the market. I think for us keeping our number great and I think it well keep all the company's real I noticed Nextel plan's are not as good as last year so I hope this will wake them up a bit. But as for me going to GSM I think I will wait til all the gsm towers are set and when I can go to site everyone happy about gsm then I would think about switching to GSM :). > > > I think that a lot of subscribers have matured and that they no > > > longer look only at price, since so many have been burned by [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > where my Verizon phone can't at least get an analog signal-- > the East Palo Alto Ikea. >The carriers are always competing. The next "price wars" will >be during the Christmas holidays, that's when they will battle [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > >VOICESTREAM: Who are they? If you've had them all why are you asking who they are? VoiceStream doesn't exist anymore anyway. You really need to keep up. And you do realize that your opinion is valuable to someone. You just need to find out who that someone is. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - To send an email reply send to GSMthemobilestandard (@) yahoo.com > >The carriers are always competing. The next "price wars" will > >be during the Christmas holidays, that's when they will battle [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > If you've had them all why are you asking who they are? Sheesh! Let's look again at what I actually wrote: "I have had most of the carriers......." Learn to read. (KM) In alt.cellular.verizon poboxdc@ix.netcom.com wrote: >> If you've had them all why are you asking who they are? > > Sheesh! Let's look again at what I actually wrote: > > "I have had most of the carriers......." Voicestream was re-branded to T-Mobile by Deutsche Telekom a couple years ago, shortly after they bought Voicestream. They were re-branded so that all of DT's worldwide cellular companies operated under the same name. 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