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hotwired@tazer.com - 03 May 2008 06:08 GMT
I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls, and that really
pisses me off.  This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
company, and 3 calls from my brother.
I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
Bob F - 03 May 2008 14:03 GMT
>I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls, and that really
> pisses me off.  This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
> call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
> auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
> company, and 3 calls from my brother.
> I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***

Turn off the ringer on your phone.
Larry - 03 May 2008 13:47 GMT
"Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in news:EqSdnZ75ovsu_
4HVnZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@comcast.com:

>>I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls, and that really
>> pisses me off.  This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> Turn off the ringer on your phone.

....or turn off voicemail notification and forward all calls to there...
(c;

Skype is the ultimate one-way phone system.  Noone can call you because
you have NO NUMBER unless you buy Skype In!  "I'll call you.", they say.  
"No you won't.", you retort....(c;
nfrabbit - 03 May 2008 15:16 GMT
>I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls, and that really
>pisses me off.  This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
>call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
>auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
>company, and 3 calls from my brother.
>I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***

You are joking, aren't you?
SteveB - 03 May 2008 15:50 GMT
>I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls, and that really
> pisses me off.  This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
> call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
> auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
> company, and 3 calls from my brother.
> I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***

The best revenge is to cost them what they value most.  Time.

I start talking to them.

What color underwear do you have on?  I like white.  I don't like Fruit of
the Loom because they pinch me.

Do you have a dog?  I had a dog.  His name was Skippy.  He ran away.  But I
think my father took Skippy out to the farms and let him go.  I miss Skippy.
I want to get a hamster.

Do you go to school?  I go to special school.  Mrs Rogers is my teacher.
She's nice.  She wears pretty dresses.

Wait a minute, someone is knocking at the door .................. then don't
speak.

And I say these things right in the middle of a sentence when they are
making their pitch, or after they have made a lengthy statement.  Then stay
quiet.  Long pauses.  Speak as if you are six years old.

They will take you off the list.  Before I did this, I would have someone
call me saying my insurance was going to lapse.  I didn't have insurance
with that company, and we both knew it.  I'd get indignant and say not to
call again, and next week or month, they would call again.  One of these
conversations, and I never heard from them again.

Your time is valuable.  This takes a little time, but it works to get them
to take you off the list.  I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then."  Sometimes you cannot
insult them enough to get them to quit calling you.  But thoroughly wasting
their time does work.

Steve
Larry - 03 May 2008 17:27 GMT
"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
@news.infowest.com:

> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most.  Time.

This works at the post office, too.  I kept getting pre-approved credit
card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards.  I sent two
back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted.  So, I
started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards.  (I
already have one.)  They kept sending them and sending them.  I have 10
Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really
high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees.  Every month, I
rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once
every 12 months to keep them active.  I can now afford open heart surgery
at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.

So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid?  
Them or me?  The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no
interest, no charges.

One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....
aspasia - 03 May 2008 18:36 GMT
>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
>@news.infowest.com:
[quoted text clipped - 17 lines]
>
>One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....

It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many
credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating.  The thinking of
the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs
that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance
department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.

I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether
this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid.  (Personally, I stick to
about 2 or 3 -- why more?)

BTW:  Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude
that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
economies around the world?  IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
djay - 03 May 2008 18:49 GMT
>>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
>>@news.infowest.com:
[quoted text clipped - 31 lines]
> that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
> economies around the world?  IOW, extend credit promiscuously?

Yes you are correct in what you posted.  Opening them isn't a huge deal it's
when you close them that you have trouble with your credit score.  Each
credit card carries its separate revolving credit account (of course) and
the debt to credit ratio is a good thing (if you always pay off the cards at
the end of the month - shows responsibility blah blah blah).  However when
you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative) debt
to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
Larry - 03 May 2008 23:57 GMT
> However when
> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
> debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.

All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the
fractional bankers, think about you.  As I don't care, any more, and
haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the
clear air, it doesn't really matter.

They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;
aspasia - 04 May 2008 01:30 GMT
>> However when
>> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;

Listen, I hate those miserable bastards as much as the next person,
but let's be realistic:  If you have responsibilities toward others --
family, relatives, whatever -- you have to kiss the credit folks' ***
in order to get a good interest rate in case you need an emergency
loan for medical or other reasons,  or you want to buy a house, or...

I think it's sickening that they base their ****ing  scores on
mechanical data that don't necessarily reflect the borrower's
true repayment status, but who said life is fair!

Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you!
How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for
wonderment and admiration.

Aspasia
Larry - 04 May 2008 02:27 GMT
> Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you!
> How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for
> wonderment and admiration.

I live in an old mobile home I paid off in 1993 and drive Mercedes Benz
cars running on used veggie oil from Chinese Restaurants, a '73 220D I
fully restored and '83 300TD turbocharged diesel wagon.  "Old Sarge", my
1989 Union City Body Chevy diesel V-8 stepvan, a retired Air Force
flightline van from Pope AFB, NC, runs on vegoil, too, from its installed
Frybrid (frybrid.com), which is overkill in SC.

No car payments
No house payments
No FUEL BILLS, either!
virtually no taxes because mobile homes, like my old cars, DEpreciate
just awful...at the tax office where it really counts!

2 XP systems and 2 Linux systems sharing a 6.2TB RAID array over a
network on 6.8Mbps cable internet keep me company...(c;  On-the-road, a
Nokia N800 Linux tablet over BT to Alltel EVDO or wifi handle the Remote
desktops and mobile entertainments.

I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more...
(c;  That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee....

LIFE is GOOD!
aspasia - 04 May 2008 08:22 GMT
>> Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you!
>> How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for
[quoted text clipped - 22 lines]
>
>LIFE is GOOD!

Hey, Larry, your life style IS a chick magnet -- for the right kind of
chick.

Move over, man!

Aspasia
Kurt Ullman - 04 May 2008 13:52 GMT
> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more...
> (c;  That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee....

  I was discussing similar things with a friend the other day. I
mentioned that I have lived in the same house for 20 years (the mortgage
is paid off) and the kids are in their 30s (and they are paid off). It
is amazing the amount of money those two things alone free up.
SteveB - 05 May 2008 01:08 GMT
>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more...
>> (c;  That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee....
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> is paid off) and the kids are in their 30s (and they are paid off). It
> is amazing the amount of money those two things alone free up.

It's a fact of life.  Old guys rule.  Now that I'm older, I find that just
being mature and confident is a chick magnet.  And a turn on to the chicks.

Steve
Red Green - 05 May 2008 02:02 GMT
>>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any
>>> more... (c;  That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee....
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> Steve

Back in 2001 I went looking for a used pickup and ended up with a 1996
MLC. More specifically, a Red 1996 Mitsubishi 300GT. Mamma was not
impressed. Me and mamma are no longer me and mamma. Wonder why??? But I
stil have the Mitsu.

Anyway, oh yea you would see the chickies lock on to it from a distance.
Then when I got close enough and they could see the driver the faces
changed. Swear I could hear them thinking what a frikkin' waste. Could
have pissed em off and yelled out the window "It's paid for too!".

Well now since the thing seems to be little sh.t cars with runway lights,
bicycle tires, some kinda big O muffler that sounds like a dirt bike and
billion watts booming from inside, I don't even get locked on any more.
Maybe it's just cause I can't see beyond 100 ft any more. I don't know.
Red Green - 05 May 2008 02:06 GMT
>> .
>>>
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
> locked on any more. Maybe it's just cause I can't see beyond 100 ft
> any more. I don't know.

BTW, MLC=Mid Life Crisis :-)
SteveB - 05 May 2008 02:58 GMT
>>>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any
>>>> more... (c;  That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee....
[quoted text clipped - 25 lines]
> billion watts booming from inside, I don't even get locked on any more.
> Maybe it's just cause I can't see beyond 100 ft any more. I don't know.

That's okay.  Those are the throwbacks anyway.  The rejects.  These new
young broads are dumber than a sack of canary seed.

Steve
Larry - 05 May 2008 02:31 GMT
Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in news:kurtullman-
BE5DAA.08523004052008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net:

>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more...
>> (c;  That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee....
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> is paid off) and the kids are in their 30s (and they are paid off). It
> is amazing the amount of money those two things alone free up.

I've been debt free since my last wife left me in 1992 for something she
THOUGHT she liked better, but didn't.  He didn't last as long as I did
(17 years).

I'd like a new boat, but am unwilling to become a slave, again, to own
one.  What would be the point....
Dick Adams - 05 May 2008 01:38 GMT
> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a
> chick magnet, any more... (c;  That saves a
> PILE in itself!....hee hee....

62 is a gret age to start looking for chicks to
augment your retirement income.  Become a
polygamist.  You would be amazed how the income
of five women and no kids piles up!

Dick
larry - 05 May 2008 01:59 GMT
>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a
>> chick magnet, any more... (c;  That saves a
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Dick

Some people improve their fibbing ability with age too ;-)

-- larry/dallas
Larry - 05 May 2008 02:33 GMT
rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote in news:fvlkuu$t1h$1
@reader2.panix.com:

> 62 is a gret age to start looking for chicks to
> augment your retirement income.  Become a
> polygamist.  You would be amazed how the income
> of five women and no kids piles up!
>
> Dick

I've been a polygamist since I was 12....
Steve Sobol - 05 May 2008 02:39 GMT
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.]

> I've been a polygamist since I was 12....

I have trouble believing one woman would put up with you, let alone multiple

:)

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Red Green - 04 May 2008 01:40 GMT
>>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1
>>@news.infowest.com:
[quoted text clipped - 33 lines]
> that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting
> economies around the world?  IOW, extend credit promiscuously?

Also, the more cards you have the higher the probability of identity
theft.
Larry - 04 May 2008 02:29 GMT
Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in news:Xns9A93D25F4F9E0RedGreen@
216.168.3.70:

> Also, the more cards you have the higher the probability of identity
> theft.

Oh, I hope so.  It's NOT MY MONEY they're stealing!.....(c;

Love your CBC TV show, Red.  Best comedy on the planet!
Red Green - 04 May 2008 02:43 GMT
Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in news:Xns9A93DBAE27613noonehomecom@
208.49.80.253:

> Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in news:Xns9A93D25F4F9E0RedGreen@
> 216.168.3.70:
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
> Love your CBC TV show, Red.  Best comedy on the planet!

The skits in B&W narrated by Red are a fav of mine.
Larry - 05 May 2008 02:35 GMT
Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in news:Xns9A93DD0FC84C8RedGreen@
216.168.3.70:

> The skits in B&W narrated by Red are a fav of mine.

Have you seen the CBC documentary, with visit to his barge where the
writing goes on?  Smith is a very interesting character, even without the
Red Green image.
Red Green - 05 May 2008 02:45 GMT
> Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in
> news:Xns9A93DD0FC84C8RedGreen@ 216.168.3.70:
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> writing goes on?  Smith is a very interesting character, even without
> the Red Green image.

No. Unfortunately a couple of months ago I moved back to NC. With
rebuilding this HUD Wreck. Never got cable. Never even took the TV out of
the box. Trying to beat the summer heat. Get all exterior stuff done I can
before temp & humidity are the same...100.
aspasia - 03 May 2008 18:32 GMT
[...]

>Your time is valuable.  This takes a little time, but it works to get them
>to take you off the list.  I like to ask them, "What is your home number and
>when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then."  Sometimes you cannot
>insult them enough to get them to quit calling you.  But thoroughly wasting
>their time does work.

[...]

I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers.  THEY are not
the problem; it's the companies that hire them.  Would you rather
they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living?  These
are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working.  Imagine
how swallowing insults all day affects their health.  Yes, before
you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.

My method is just to say politely:  "I do not accept telephone
solicitations.  Please remove me from your calling list."
Seems to work, as I get very few such calls, and when they
goof and call again, I remind them this isn't making friends
for the organization.

The kind of bullying described above, IMHO, is cheap and
tacky.  Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself,
and don't take out your own problems on others.
Banty - 03 May 2008 20:05 GMT
>[...]
>
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
>tacky.  Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself,
>and don't take out your own problems on others.

I just say "not interested" and hang up.  Because *my* time is valuable.

But I don't see the telemarketers as poor hapless would-be welfare cases trying
to earn a buck.  They've accepted a job which is all about being rude and
intrusive, instead of a job getting breakfast to a trucker in a diner or
shovelling gravel into a french drain for a landscaper (and yes - I've done
both).  I don't have time to play games with them, but I'm not exactly going to
cry tears over their getting the brunt of others' frustration with them either.

Banty
Smitty Two - 05 May 2008 15:11 GMT
> >[...]
> >
[quoted text clipped - 38 lines]
>
> Banty

Got a friend with a work at home business so he gets many telemarketer
calls. (businesses are exempt from DO NOT CALL.) He found the best
response is "Hey, I'm taking a s**t right now; could you call me back in
ten minutes?" They hang up right away and don't call back.
Frank - 03 May 2008 22:34 GMT
> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers.  THEY are not
> the problem; it's the companies that hire them.  Would you rather
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect
> people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.

If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and
log in here:

http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
aspasia - 04 May 2008 00:01 GMT
>> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers.  THEY are not
>> the problem; it's the companies that hire them.  Would you rather
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
>http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/

Well, I should probably give up...but...

Your method is just more cheap, juvenile gratification.

The poster who just says "not interested" and hangs up is
at least more mature.

Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?
willshak - 04 May 2008 00:06 GMT
on 5/3/2008 7:01 PM aspasia said the following:

>  
>>    
[quoted text clipped - 23 lines]
> Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?
>  
Well, it's not as bad as some others who espouse settling all disputes
with a gun.

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Frank - 04 May 2008 00:34 GMT
>> http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?

My attitude, as others have mentioned in thread, is to make
telemarketing, junk mail, spam etc more costly to the initiators.
They would not do it if there were no cost benefit.  This "juvenile"
thing is one of my milder approaches ;)
nick hull - 04 May 2008 10:16 GMT
> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most.  Time.
>
> I start talking to them.

I just hand the phone to my daughter and say 'it's for you"; she LOVES
to talk on the phone ;)

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Larry - 04 May 2008 00:14 GMT
>I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls, and that really
> pisses me off.  This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one
> call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local
> auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance
> company, and 3 calls from my brother.
> I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***

Dummy, that means, you're not supposed to call.
Dick Adams - 05 May 2008 01:33 GMT
> I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls
> and that really pisses me off.  This week alone,
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> from my brother.  I thought the DO NOT CALL list
> means *** DO NOT CALL ***

I am extremely sympathic with your plight.  My idea
of a great day is when I do not get a call from my
first wife - it's been over 20 years now!

You need call waiting with no voice mail.  Better
yet get a cell phone and only give out the number
to people you want to call you.  My childbride is
the only one who has my cell phone number - and
man she really has my number!

I left home to join the Navy in 1961.  47 years
later, I have yet to read a letter from my mother
- someone else has always read it for me and told
me if there was anything important in it.

I enjoy phone conversations with my brothers and
my sister.  They are erudite, clever, and humorous.

As soon as I find software that will block an
unlimited number of callers and selectively
route callers by whatever criteria I select
(like caller not on my accept list who have
names such as "caller unknown", the name of a
State, or anything else I choose, I am going
to a Vontage type service.

Dick
Steve Sobol - 05 May 2008 02:39 GMT
["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.]
>> I am on the DO NOT CALL list.  I still get calls
>> and that really pisses me off.  This week alone,
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> of a great day is when I do not get a call from my
> first wife - it's been over 20 years now!

The OP is probably trolling. The Do Not Call list is specifically for
telemarketers and telemarketers ONLY and I'm sure the OP knows that, and
this is his stupid idea of a joke...

**SJS, amazed that the thread has continued this far.

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Mark Lloyd - 05 May 2008 15:32 GMT
[snip]

>As soon as I find software that will block an
>unlimited number of callers and selectively
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>
>Dick

I just got a call where the CID showed "TEXAS". It turned out to be a
friend's cell phone. That sort of thing is why I use the answering
machine, and don't reject numbers before they've been proven bad.

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