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hotwired@tazer.com - 03 May 2008 06:08 GMT I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance company, and 3 calls from my brother. I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL ***
Bob F - 03 May 2008 14:03 GMT >I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really > pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one > call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local > auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance > company, and 3 calls from my brother. > I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL *** Turn off the ringer on your phone.
Larry - 03 May 2008 13:47 GMT "Bob F" <bobnospam@gmail.com> wrote in news:EqSdnZ75ovsu_ 4HVnZ2dnUVZ_remnZ2d@comcast.com:
>>I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really >> pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Turn off the ringer on your phone. ....or turn off voicemail notification and forward all calls to there... (c;
Skype is the ultimate one-way phone system. Noone can call you because you have NO NUMBER unless you buy Skype In! "I'll call you.", they say. "No you won't.", you retort....(c;
nfrabbit - 03 May 2008 15:16 GMT >I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really >pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one >call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local >auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance >company, and 3 calls from my brother. >I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL *** You are joking, aren't you?
SteveB - 03 May 2008 15:50 GMT >I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really > pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one > call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local > auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance > company, and 3 calls from my brother. > I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL *** The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time.
I start talking to them.
What color underwear do you have on? I like white. I don't like Fruit of the Loom because they pinch me.
Do you have a dog? I had a dog. His name was Skippy. He ran away. But I think my father took Skippy out to the farms and let him go. I miss Skippy. I want to get a hamster.
Do you go to school? I go to special school. Mrs Rogers is my teacher. She's nice. She wears pretty dresses.
Wait a minute, someone is knocking at the door .................. then don't speak.
And I say these things right in the middle of a sentence when they are making their pitch, or after they have made a lengthy statement. Then stay quiet. Long pauses. Speak as if you are six years old.
They will take you off the list. Before I did this, I would have someone call me saying my insurance was going to lapse. I didn't have insurance with that company, and we both knew it. I'd get indignant and say not to call again, and next week or month, they would call again. One of these conversations, and I never heard from them again.
Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting their time does work.
Steve
Larry - 03 May 2008 17:27 GMT "SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1 @news.infowest.com:
> The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time. This works at the post office, too. I kept getting pre-approved credit card apps from JP Morgan-Chase Bank, platinum business cards. I sent two back saying no and take me off the list, but they persisted. So, I started sending them in to see if they'd really send me more cards. (I already have one.) They kept sending them and sending them. I have 10 Chase Business cards, now, all with different numbers on them with really high credit limits....all with 3% cashback and no fees. Every month, I rotate using them to keep them active as you must use them at least once every 12 months to keep them active. I can now afford open heart surgery at the best hospital in the country with the highest priced vampires.
So far, noone as questioned why I have so many Chase cards.....stupid? Them or me? The cost me nothing as I always pay off the bill...no interest, no charges.
One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations.....
aspasia - 03 May 2008 18:36 GMT >"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1 >@news.infowest.com: [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >One hand has no idea what another hand is doing in big corporations..... It's my understanding -- open to correction -- that applying for many credit cards is detrimental to one's credit rating. The thinking of the Big Three rating organizations is that somebody who needs that many credit cards might be a little shaky in the finance department, so they need to keep bouncing from card to card.
I would genuinely like KNOWLEDGEABLE input on whether this philosophy of the rating orgs. is valid. (Personally, I stick to about 2 or 3 -- why more?)
BTW: Doesn't the above message echo some of the attitude that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously?
djay - 03 May 2008 18:49 GMT >>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1 >>@news.infowest.com: [quoted text clipped - 31 lines] > that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting > economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously? Yes you are correct in what you posted. Opening them isn't a huge deal it's when you close them that you have trouble with your credit score. Each credit card carries its separate revolving credit account (of course) and the debt to credit ratio is a good thing (if you always pay off the cards at the end of the month - shows responsibility blah blah blah). However when you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative) debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb.
Larry - 03 May 2008 23:57 GMT > However when > you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative) > debt to credit ratio and your FICO score drops like a bomb. All this assumes, of course, that you CARE about what "they", the fractional bankers, think about you. As I don't care, any more, and haven't since 1991 when I finally walked out of the debt trap into the clear air, it doesn't really matter.
They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c;
aspasia - 04 May 2008 01:30 GMT >> However when >> you decide to close several arbitrarily it shows a changed (negative) [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >They DID, beg me to take them, understand....(c; Listen, I hate those miserable bastards as much as the next person, but let's be realistic: If you have responsibilities toward others -- family, relatives, whatever -- you have to kiss the credit folks' *** in order to get a good interest rate in case you need an emergency loan for medical or other reasons, or you want to buy a house, or...
I think it's sickening that they base their ****ing scores on mechanical data that don't necessarily reflect the borrower's true repayment status, but who said life is fair!
Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you! How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for wonderment and admiration.
Aspasia
Larry - 04 May 2008 02:27 GMT > Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you! > How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for > wonderment and admiration. I live in an old mobile home I paid off in 1993 and drive Mercedes Benz cars running on used veggie oil from Chinese Restaurants, a '73 220D I fully restored and '83 300TD turbocharged diesel wagon. "Old Sarge", my 1989 Union City Body Chevy diesel V-8 stepvan, a retired Air Force flightline van from Pope AFB, NC, runs on vegoil, too, from its installed Frybrid (frybrid.com), which is overkill in SC.
No car payments No house payments No FUEL BILLS, either! virtually no taxes because mobile homes, like my old cars, DEpreciate just awful...at the tax office where it really counts!
2 XP systems and 2 Linux systems sharing a 6.2TB RAID array over a network on 6.8Mbps cable internet keep me company...(c; On-the-road, a Nokia N800 Linux tablet over BT to Alltel EVDO or wifi handle the Remote desktops and mobile entertainments.
I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more... (c; That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee....
LIFE is GOOD!
aspasia - 04 May 2008 08:22 GMT >> Since you say you're staying out of the game, more power to you! >> How anybody survives in today's America w/o borrowing is a source for [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > >LIFE is GOOD! Hey, Larry, your life style IS a chick magnet -- for the right kind of chick.
Move over, man!
Aspasia
Kurt Ullman - 04 May 2008 13:52 GMT > I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more... > (c; That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee.... I was discussing similar things with a friend the other day. I mentioned that I have lived in the same house for 20 years (the mortgage is paid off) and the kids are in their 30s (and they are paid off). It is amazing the amount of money those two things alone free up.
SteveB - 05 May 2008 01:08 GMT >> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more... >> (c; That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee.... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is paid off) and the kids are in their 30s (and they are paid off). It > is amazing the amount of money those two things alone free up. It's a fact of life. Old guys rule. Now that I'm older, I find that just being mature and confident is a chick magnet. And a turn on to the chicks.
Steve
Red Green - 05 May 2008 02:02 GMT >>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any >>> more... (c; That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee.... [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Steve Back in 2001 I went looking for a used pickup and ended up with a 1996 MLC. More specifically, a Red 1996 Mitsubishi 300GT. Mamma was not impressed. Me and mamma are no longer me and mamma. Wonder why??? But I stil have the Mitsu.
Anyway, oh yea you would see the chickies lock on to it from a distance. Then when I got close enough and they could see the driver the faces changed. Swear I could hear them thinking what a frikkin' waste. Could have pissed em off and yelled out the window "It's paid for too!".
Well now since the thing seems to be little sh.t cars with runway lights, bicycle tires, some kinda big O muffler that sounds like a dirt bike and billion watts booming from inside, I don't even get locked on any more. Maybe it's just cause I can't see beyond 100 ft any more. I don't know.
Red Green - 05 May 2008 02:06 GMT >> . >>> [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > locked on any more. Maybe it's just cause I can't see beyond 100 ft > any more. I don't know. BTW, MLC=Mid Life Crisis :-)
SteveB - 05 May 2008 02:58 GMT >>>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any >>>> more... (c; That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee.... [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > billion watts booming from inside, I don't even get locked on any more. > Maybe it's just cause I can't see beyond 100 ft any more. I don't know. That's okay. Those are the throwbacks anyway. The rejects. These new young broads are dumber than a sack of canary seed.
Steve
Larry - 05 May 2008 02:31 GMT Kurt Ullman <kurtullman@yahoo.com> wrote in news:kurtullman- BE5DAA.08523004052008@70-3-168-216.area5.spcsdns.net:
>> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a chick magnet, any more... >> (c; That saves a PILE in itself!....hee hee.... [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > is paid off) and the kids are in their 30s (and they are paid off). It > is amazing the amount of money those two things alone free up. I've been debt free since my last wife left me in 1992 for something she THOUGHT she liked better, but didn't. He didn't last as long as I did (17 years).
I'd like a new boat, but am unwilling to become a slave, again, to own one. What would be the point....
Dick Adams - 05 May 2008 01:38 GMT > I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a > chick magnet, any more... (c; That saves a > PILE in itself!....hee hee.... 62 is a gret age to start looking for chicks to augment your retirement income. Become a polygamist. You would be amazed how the income of five women and no kids piles up!
Dick
larry - 05 May 2008 01:59 GMT >> I'm too old (62 now) to worry about driving a >> chick magnet, any more... (c; That saves a [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Dick Some people improve their fibbing ability with age too ;-)
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Larry - 05 May 2008 02:33 GMT rdadams@panix.com (Dick Adams) wrote in news:fvlkuu$t1h$1 @reader2.panix.com:
> 62 is a gret age to start looking for chicks to > augment your retirement income. Become a > polygamist. You would be amazed how the income > of five women and no kids piles up! > > Dick I've been a polygamist since I was 12....
Steve Sobol - 05 May 2008 02:39 GMT ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.]
> I've been a polygamist since I was 12.... I have trouble believing one woman would put up with you, let alone multiple
:)
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Red Green - 04 May 2008 01:40 GMT >>"SteveB" <toquerville,utah@zionvistas> wrote in news:13aue5-8mq1.ln1 >>@news.infowest.com: [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > that caused the sub-prime housing bust, which is now affecting > economies around the world? IOW, extend credit promiscuously? Also, the more cards you have the higher the probability of identity theft.
Larry - 04 May 2008 02:29 GMT Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in news:Xns9A93D25F4F9E0RedGreen@ 216.168.3.70:
> Also, the more cards you have the higher the probability of identity > theft. Oh, I hope so. It's NOT MY MONEY they're stealing!.....(c;
Love your CBC TV show, Red. Best comedy on the planet!
Red Green - 04 May 2008 02:43 GMT Larry <noone@home.com> wrote in news:Xns9A93DBAE27613noonehomecom@ 208.49.80.253:
> Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in news:Xns9A93D25F4F9E0RedGreen@ > 216.168.3.70: [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Love your CBC TV show, Red. Best comedy on the planet! The skits in B&W narrated by Red are a fav of mine.
Larry - 05 May 2008 02:35 GMT Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in news:Xns9A93DD0FC84C8RedGreen@ 216.168.3.70:
> The skits in B&W narrated by Red are a fav of mine. Have you seen the CBC documentary, with visit to his barge where the writing goes on? Smith is a very interesting character, even without the Red Green image.
Red Green - 05 May 2008 02:45 GMT > Red Green <postmaster@127.0.0.1> wrote in > news:Xns9A93DD0FC84C8RedGreen@ 216.168.3.70: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > writing goes on? Smith is a very interesting character, even without > the Red Green image. No. Unfortunately a couple of months ago I moved back to NC. With rebuilding this HUD Wreck. Never got cable. Never even took the TV out of the box. Trying to beat the summer heat. Get all exterior stuff done I can before temp & humidity are the same...100.
aspasia - 03 May 2008 18:32 GMT [...]
>Your time is valuable. This takes a little time, but it works to get them >to take you off the list. I like to ask them, "What is your home number and >when do you have dinner, and I'll call you then." Sometimes you cannot >insult them enough to get them to quit calling you. But thoroughly wasting >their time does work. [...]
I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather they'd go on welfare (your tax $) than try to earn a living? These are not the cream of the crop, but at least they're working. Imagine how swallowing insults all day affects their health. Yes, before you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect people's health -- to the detriment of all of us.
My method is just to say politely: "I do not accept telephone solicitations. Please remove me from your calling list." Seems to work, as I get very few such calls, and when they goof and call again, I remind them this isn't making friends for the organization.
The kind of bullying described above, IMHO, is cheap and tacky. Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself, and don't take out your own problems on others.
Banty - 03 May 2008 20:05 GMT >[...] > [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >tacky. Treat everyone as you would want to be treated yourself, >and don't take out your own problems on others. I just say "not interested" and hang up. Because *my* time is valuable.
But I don't see the telemarketers as poor hapless would-be welfare cases trying to earn a buck. They've accepted a job which is all about being rude and intrusive, instead of a job getting breakfast to a trucker in a diner or shovelling gravel into a french drain for a landscaper (and yes - I've done both). I don't have time to play games with them, but I'm not exactly going to cry tears over their getting the brunt of others' frustration with them either.
Banty
Smitty Two - 05 May 2008 15:11 GMT > >[...] > > [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > Banty Got a friend with a work at home business so he gets many telemarketer calls. (businesses are exempt from DO NOT CALL.) He found the best response is "Hey, I'm taking a s**t right now; could you call me back in ten minutes?" They hang up right away and don't call back.
Frank - 03 May 2008 22:34 GMT > I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not > the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you start hurling thunderbolts -- stress DOES seriously affect > people's health -- to the detriment of all of us. If my computer is on, I turn up the volume, put phone near speaker and log in here:
http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/
aspasia - 04 May 2008 00:01 GMT >> I have problems with abusing or insulting the callers. THEY are not >> the problem; it's the companies that hire them. Would you rather [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > >http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/ Well, I should probably give up...but...
Your method is just more cheap, juvenile gratification.
The poster who just says "not interested" and hangs up is at least more mature.
Can't you get your kicks some more productive way?
willshak - 04 May 2008 00:06 GMT on 5/3/2008 7:01 PM aspasia said the following:
> >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > Can't you get your kicks some more productive way? > Well, it's not as bad as some others who espouse settling all disputes with a gun.
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Frank - 04 May 2008 00:34 GMT >> http://www.amishrakefight.org/gfy/ > [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Can't you get your kicks some more productive way? My attitude, as others have mentioned in thread, is to make telemarketing, junk mail, spam etc more costly to the initiators. They would not do it if there were no cost benefit. This "juvenile" thing is one of my milder approaches ;)
nick hull - 04 May 2008 10:16 GMT > The best revenge is to cost them what they value most. Time. > > I start talking to them. I just hand the phone to my daughter and say 'it's for you"; she LOVES to talk on the phone ;)
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Larry - 04 May 2008 00:14 GMT >I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls, and that really > pisses me off. This week alone, I got 2 calls from my ex-wife, one > call from my mother, another call from my bank, a call from the local > auto parts shop telling me my part is in, a call from my insurance > company, and 3 calls from my brother. > I thought the DO NOT CALL list, means *** DO NOT CALL *** Dummy, that means, you're not supposed to call.
Dick Adams - 05 May 2008 01:33 GMT > I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls > and that really pisses me off. This week alone, [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > from my brother. I thought the DO NOT CALL list > means *** DO NOT CALL *** I am extremely sympathic with your plight. My idea of a great day is when I do not get a call from my first wife - it's been over 20 years now!
You need call waiting with no voice mail. Better yet get a cell phone and only give out the number to people you want to call you. My childbride is the only one who has my cell phone number - and man she really has my number!
I left home to join the Navy in 1961. 47 years later, I have yet to read a letter from my mother - someone else has always read it for me and told me if there was anything important in it.
I enjoy phone conversations with my brothers and my sister. They are erudite, clever, and humorous.
As soon as I find software that will block an unlimited number of callers and selectively route callers by whatever criteria I select (like caller not on my accept list who have names such as "caller unknown", the name of a State, or anything else I choose, I am going to a Vontage type service.
Dick
Steve Sobol - 05 May 2008 02:39 GMT ["Followup-To:" header set to alt.cellular.]
>> I am on the DO NOT CALL list. I still get calls >> and that really pisses me off. This week alone, [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > of a great day is when I do not get a call from my > first wife - it's been over 20 years now! The OP is probably trolling. The Do Not Call list is specifically for telemarketers and telemarketers ONLY and I'm sure the OP knows that, and this is his stupid idea of a joke...
**SJS, amazed that the thread has continued this far.
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Mark Lloyd - 05 May 2008 15:32 GMT [snip]
>As soon as I find software that will block an >unlimited number of callers and selectively [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Dick I just got a call where the CID showed "TEXAS". It turned out to be a friend's cell phone. That sort of thing is why I use the answering machine, and don't reject numbers before they've been proven bad.
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