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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / October 2004All Cingular contracts now VOID
The contract Cingular has with you is not merely the TOS fine print agreement you signed, but also includes all representations made in sales brochures or representations made by salespeople. What salespeople said may be hard to prove, but what the sales brochures said is indisputable if you have the brochure. Many of the brochures talk of how easy it is to check your minutes used. However one can not check their minutes used now due to computer "upgrades" (they call it). Since that promise of service is now not being provided your contract is VOID. > The contract Cingular has with you is not merely the TOS fine print > agreement you signed, but also includes all representations made in [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > talk of how easy it is to check your minutes used. However one can not > check their minutes used now due to computer "upgrades" (they call it). I suspect these upgrades are related to their internal systems being modified for the pending assimilation of ATTWS clients. > Since that promise of service is now not being provided your contract is > VOID.  Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' > > The contract Cingular has with you is not merely the TOS fine print > > agreement you signed, but also includes all representations made in [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > Since that promise of service is now not being provided your contract is > > VOID. The problem is they are merely "changes" and hardly upgrades if your level of service has been downgraded so seriously. >>I suspect these upgrades are related to their internal systems being >>modified for the pending assimilation of ATTWS clients. > > The problem is they are merely "changes" and hardly upgrades if your > level of service has been downgraded so seriously. Well, admittedly, the 'upgrade' word was theirs, not mine. Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' >The contract Cingular has with you is not merely the TOS fine print >agreement you signed, but also includes all representations made in >sales brochures or representations made by salespeople. Are you a lawyer? Or are you practicing law without a license. >What salespeople said may be hard to prove, but what the sales brochures >said is indisputable if you have the brochure. Many of the brochures >talk of how easy it is to check your minutes used. However one can not >check their minutes used now due to computer "upgrades" (they call it). So call Customer Service or use SMS. >Since that promise of service is now not being provided your contract is >VOID. Nonsense. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Nonsense. Typical, if you're not still on the Cingular payroll, you sure act like it. ALL CONTRACTS ARE NOW VOID. > > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > ALL CONTRACTS ARE NOW VOID. I think if you look at your contract, it will probably say something in there to the effect that temporary loss of service does not void the contract. What you are stating has, lets say, been thought of already, and there are provisions made for such situations but companies all over the world. Try getting out of your ISP yearly contract because your ISP cant be connected to for a couple of hours. I think you get the point. CT > > > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > > > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] > world. Try getting out of your ISP yearly contract because your ISP cant be > connected to for a couple of hours. I think you get the point. Cingular's fubarred website is now messed up for almost a month, thats not quite a couple of hours. And whenever you ask a 611 person when it will be fixed you get an answer meant to quiet you, but apparently untruthful as it isnt fixed yet. "It's part of an upgrade all be OK in 2 weeks" BUT IT'S ALL A LIE. It's like the Ford Hybrid Escape. For 3 years now: "IT'LL BE OUT IN 6 MONTHS". WHEN WILL FOLKS LEARN: JUST BECAUSE A COMPANY PERSON TELLS YOU SOMETHING, DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE. >WHEN WILL FOLKS LEARN: JUST BECAUSE A COMPANY PERSON TELLS YOU >SOMETHING, DOESN'T MAKE IT TRUE. What we already know: Just because you tell us something, doesn't make it true. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > What we already know: Just because you tell us something, doesn't make it > true. Of course, we've known for a long time now that just because John Navas says something, it isn't true. It's just John flapping his jaws to hear himself speak, because that's his favorite pasttime. > > What we already know: Just because you tell us something, doesn't make it > > true. > > Of course, we've known for a long time now that just because John Navas > says something, it isn't true. It's just John flapping his jaws to hear > himself speak, because that's his favorite pasttime. and his blind support for Cingular, even when Cingular now fails to provide means for quickly checking your minutes used as promised in advertising materials, which then is a basis for VOIDing contracts. Do you think anyone is unaware that you are responding to your own posts? > Do you think anyone is unaware that you are responding to your own posts? Sorry but it's just Navas that does that. I am not Shagnasty, although I agree with many of his posts. Or are you Navas? P.S. by changing its computer systems so that Mobile to Mobile minutes are not separated out (until billing time ?) Cingular now makes it impossible to check minutes used in Real Time. Since that was promoted as a feature in its brochures in the stores, and is now not available, Cingular has removed a feature promised to users, and thus ALL CONTRACTS AGREED TO AFTER THE BROCHURE CAME OUT CAN NOW BE VOIDED. > Do you think anyone is unaware that you are responding to your own posts? I was under the impression that I was responding to Jack Zwick's post. ???? >It's like the Ford Hybrid Escape. For 3 years now: "IT'LL BE OUT IN 6 >MONTHS". You can buy it now. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net ====================================================================== * Reply by Jack D. Russell, Sr. <jackru$$ell2@notmail.com> * Newsgroup:alt.cellular.cingular * Reply to: All; "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> * Date:Fri, 22 Oct 2004 16:15:26 -0500 * Subj:Re: All Cingular contracts now VOID ====================================================================== JN> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] JN> In <jzwick3-7FF6EF.15575721102004@news1.west.earthlink.net> on JN> Thu, 21 Oct 2004 20:57:48 GMT, Jack Zwick <jzwick3@mindspring.com> wrote: >> The contract Cingular has with you is not merely the TOS fine print >> agreement you signed, but also includes all representations made in >> sales brochures or representations made by salespeople. JN> Are you a lawyer? Or are you practicing law without a license. >> What salespeople said may be hard to prove, but what the sales >> brochures said is indisputable if you have the brochure. Many of >> the brochures talk of how easy it is to check your minutes used. >> However one can not check their minutes used now due to computer >> "upgrades" (they call it). JN> So call Customer Service or use SMS. >> Since that promise of service is now not being provided your >> contract is VOID. JN> Nonsense. [shaking head] I take a break for a couple of weeks and you let this guy in? ;) [/shaking head] -- Jack > The contract Cingular has with you is not merely the TOS fine print > agreement you signed, but also includes all representations made in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Since that promise of service is now not being provided your contract is > VOID. Only if it were the only way to check minutes- which it is not. > > Since that promise of service is now not being provided your contract is > > VOID. Don't you just love the Internet? Another lawyer wannabe selling advice for free. You get what you pay for. You don't know squat about contract law > The contract Cingular has with you is not merely the TOS fine print > agreement you signed, but also includes all representations made in [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Since that promise of service is now not being provided your contract is > VOID. |
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