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Cingular divesting assets....What does this mean to the customer is these markets?

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DG - 26 Oct 2004 19:30 GMT
I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean to
me?  I have Cingular as my cellular company.
John Navas - 26 Oct 2004 21:17 GMT
>I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean to
>me?  I have Cingular as my cellular company.

I haven't seen the terms of the divestiture, but I'm guessing that Cingular
will have to get rid of some but not all spectrum in the affected areas, thus
still being able to provide service, although that service might (or might
not) be degraded due to reduced spectrum.

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 26 Oct 2004 23:00 GMT
> >I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean to
> >me?  I have Cingular as my cellular company.
>
> I haven't seen the terms of the divestiture, but I'm guessing

In other words, John, you don't know--but you're exercising your
self-given right to flap your jaw meaninglessly solely because you like
the sound of your voice.
Brsmnky007 - 26 Oct 2004 23:59 GMT
>> >I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean
>> >to
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> self-given right to flap your jaw meaninglessly solely because you like
> the sound of your voice.

Jesus H. Christ dude... go have a coke and a smile.  Seemed like an
appropriate response to the question to me.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 27 Oct 2004 01:34 GMT
> >> >I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean
> >> >to
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> Jesus H. Christ dude... go have a coke and a smile.  Seemed like an
> appropriate response to the question to me.

Ah.  You've never expressed an opinion or a guess in front of John
Navas, have you?

You'd discover that only John Navas has the right to guess or express an
opinion.  If you yourself express a guess, John Navas will be the first
one to explain to you, condescendingly, that you don't know your a.s 
from a hole in the ground.

That's because John wants the world of guessing things all to himself,
apparently.
John Navas - 27 Oct 2004 08:11 GMT
>> >I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean to
>> >me?  I have Cingular as my cellular company.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>In other words, John, you don't know--but you're exercising your
>self-given right to flap your jaw ...

Just like you.

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Gary - 27 Oct 2004 07:08 GMT
> I haven't seen the terms of the divestiture, but I'm guessing that Cingular
> will have to get rid of some but not all spectrum in the affected areas, thus
> still being able to provide service, although that service might (or might
> not) be degraded due to reduced spectrum.

That depends on if you think a meager 70 MHz of spectrum is a degradation:

As a condition of FCC approval of the deal, Cingular has agreed to
divest certain AT&T Wireless assets in Oklahoma, Texas, Kentucky,
Arkansas, Connecticut, Mississippi, and Missouri, as well as some excess
spectrum in Dallas and Detroit. The company is also limited to a maximum
of 70 MHz of radio spectrum total in any one market.

http://www.phonescoop.com/news/item.php?n=990
Jack Zwick - 26 Oct 2004 23:10 GMT
> I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean to
> me?  I have Cingular as my cellular company.

Best case - It may be ATTWS assests that are being divested, and
             will not affect you at all

Middle case - They are selling off ATTWS retail stores.

Worst case - you may need a new phone
Bill Radio - 27 Oct 2004 06:44 GMT
DG,
It seems Cingular has accepted both the DOJ and FCC terms.  If so, most
likely, nothing will change for existing Cingular customers.  The
more-restrictive FCC directive has specifically said Cingular must divest
those AT&T assets that puts them over the specified threshold.  However, in
a few markets, the FCC only stipulated that Cingular needs to divest 10 MHz
of spectrum, without stating which 10 MHz.  It could be from  Cingular
spectrum.  While that is possible, it would be less likely since it would
require integrating the AT&T spectrum when they could just sell it.

Bill Radio
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> I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean to
> me?  I have Cingular as my cellular company.
N9WOS - 27 Oct 2004 08:22 GMT
> However, in
> a few markets, the FCC only stipulated that Cingular needs to divest 10
> MHz
> of spectrum, without stating which 10 MHz.  It could be from  Cingular
> spectrum.  While that is possible, it would be less likely since it would
> require integrating the AT&T spectrum when they could just sell it.

It will depend on which license is (built out)/(built out more).

If they have one ATT pcs license that is built out,
and one Cingular pcs license that is not built out,
then it is a sure bet that the Cingular one is going to get kicked out.

If the ATT one is not built out, then it's going to get kicked out!
John S. - 29 Oct 2004 02:06 GMT
>I live in a county which Cingular has to "divest".  What does this mean to
>me?  I have Cingular as my cellular company.

You probably won't even notice the change!

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John S.
e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net
 
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