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new to group / new to cingualr / simple question please

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MF - 25 Jan 2005 03:01 GMT
hi,
i am new to cingular as was wondering how to change phones. i have the sony
they gave me, but i really don't like it much. can i buy my own new gsm
unlocked tri band phone and just take the sim card out of my sony and put it
in the new phone?
or is there some sort of programming you have to go thru with cingular?
sorry if question is lame.
marc
Ralph Blach - 25 Jan 2005 04:08 GMT
If you purchase a unlocked tryband phone, the answer would be yes.

Be sure it covers the US frequencies

Chip

> hi,
> i am new to cingular as was wondering how to change phones. i have the sony
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> sorry if question is lame.
> marc
MF - 25 Jan 2005 04:13 GMT
is this us freqs?

Triband GSM 900/1800/1900

marc

> If you purchase a unlocked tryband phone, the answer would be yes.
>
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>> sorry if question is lame.
>> marc
Aaron - 25 Jan 2005 08:02 GMT
1900 is important in US, but cingular also uses 850 in alot of areas..
specially ones that were only at&t before the merger.
you have to find out where you live to beable to tell if you have to have
850 to work with cingular.

> is this us freqs?
>
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> >> sorry if question is lame.
> >> marc
MF - 25 Jan 2005 10:24 GMT
new jersey
marc
> 1900 is important in US, but cingular also uses 850 in alot of areas..
> specially ones that were only at&t before the merger.
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>> >> sorry if question is lame.
>> >> marc
steve - 25 Jan 2005 13:04 GMT
fyi, It's the reverse, ATT was 1900.

> 1900 is important in US, but cingular also uses 850 in alot of areas..
> specially ones that were only at&t before the merger.
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> > >> sorry if question is lame.
> > >> marc
ddodero@pacbell.net - 27 Jan 2005 02:08 GMT
> fyi, It's the reverse, ATT was 1900.

Actually, both AT&T and Cingular both have cellular 850 frequencies.
Cingular mainly in the midwest and south and AT&T in the west,
Northeast, and south.

D
Jiu JitSuperfly - 28 Jan 2005 02:50 GMT
> > fyi, It's the reverse, ATT was 1900.
>
> Actually, both AT&T and Cingular both have cellular 850 frequencies.
> Cingular mainly in the midwest and south and AT&T in the west,
> Northeast, and south.

Actually the vast majority of ATTWS GSM spectrum was in the 1900mhz range.

--
JJS
Aaron - 28 Jan 2005 23:54 GMT
Here in washington state, we had no 850 untill we could use at&t and now we
have both pretty much equally..
i have a 1900 only phone and a quadband phone and notice no coverage
differances.

> > > fyi, It's the reverse, ATT was 1900.
> >
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> --
> JJS
mkhan - 29 Jan 2005 02:23 GMT
I just bought a triband phone on ebay GSM 900/1800/1900 and I had no
service in the Chicagoland area as most of the service is on GSM 850.
Make sure the phone you get has GSM 850/1900 and you will be fine.
bamp - 25 Jan 2005 16:07 GMT
I think I read in this group some time ago, that Cingular will go to 850 all
over the US.

bamp

> 1900 is important in US, but cingular also uses 850 in alot of areas..
> specially ones that were only at&t before the merger.
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>> >> sorry if question is lame.
>> >> marc
mf - 25 Jan 2005 23:18 GMT
it seems to me , cingular offers phons that do not have 850. just 900
1800 1900. how could this be?
just because i live in new jersey?

> I think I read in this group some time ago, that Cingular will go to 850 all
> over the US.
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>>>>>sorry if question is lame.
>>>>>marc
Tropical Haven - 26 Jan 2005 23:16 GMT
> it seems to me , cingular offers phons that do not have 850. just 900
> 1800 1900. how could this be?
> just because i live in new jersey?

In the past, Cingular had offered phones without 850.  However, because
Cingular (and much of ATTWS) has a large national footprint in that
frequency range, all new Cingular branded phones will include 850.
Many world phones can be purchases in 900/1800/1900.  T-Mobile and
various other GSM 1900 providers do offer phones without 850.
Cingular's world phones generally have 850/1800/1900 or 850/900/1800/1900.

I hope this clears up some confusion.
ddodero@pacbell.net - 27 Jan 2005 06:42 GMT
Cingular and AT&T mostly ran TDMA over their 850 networks and GSM over
their 1900 networks. When they overlayed GSM into the TDMA areas they
utilized the 850 where they could. Hence this is why they intially only
had 1900 GSM phones.  They only have certain A/B cellular licenses in
certain areas.  Where they have no Cellular (850) license they will use
a PCS license (1900).
MF - 27 Jan 2005 12:36 GMT
ok summary time.
i know cing uses 850 1900 for gsm
and also 850 for tdma.
i know 850 is more likely in rural areas, though not exclusively.
so with those points in mind, what would be the downside of buying a tri
band 900/1800/1900 gsm phone considering i live in trenton new jersey?
is 850 taking over?
will 1900 cover me with no worries?
sincere thanks to all who have advised ,
marc

> Cingular and AT&T mostly ran TDMA over their 850 networks and GSM over
> their 1900 networks. When they overlayed GSM into the TDMA areas they
> utilized the 850 where they could. Hence this is why they intially only
> had 1900 GSM phones.  They only have certain A/B cellular licenses in
> certain areas.  Where they have no Cellular (850) license they will use
> a PCS license (1900).
Jack Zwick - 27 Jan 2005 13:43 GMT
> ok summary time.
> i know cing uses 850 1900 for gsm
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> sincere thanks to all who have advised ,
> marc

Why gamble. Do you know where you will be in 11 months?
mf - 28 Jan 2005 12:08 GMT
>>ok summary time.
>>i know cing uses 850 1900 for gsm
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>
> Why gamble. Do you know where you will be in 11 months?
here or uk i suppose.
Jack Zwick - 28 Jan 2005 13:16 GMT
> >>ok summary time.
> >>i know cing uses 850 1900 for gsm
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> > Why gamble. Do you know where you will be in 11 months?
> here or uk i suppose.

If you dont know for sure, get a quad band phone.
Ann - 25 Jan 2005 21:25 GMT
Have you had the phone for less than 30 days ... if so you can get a
different one from Cingular.

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> hi,
> i am new to cingular as was wondering how to change phones. i have the
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> sorry if question is lame.
> marc
mf - 25 Jan 2005 23:16 GMT
more than 30 days. like 60.
wish i thought of it sooner.

> Have you had the phone for less than 30 days ... if so you can get a
> different one from Cingular.
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>>sorry if question is lame.
>>marc
 
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