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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / March 2005I'm New At This - Couple Wuestions:
I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay won't work in my area according to the Cellmedia search thing that works by zip code. Could it be wrong? To my way of thinking, a phone locked for Cingular should work anywhere with the right sim card. ..and speaking of sim cards, these appear to be location-specific. If that's true, can someone tell me the number of the one I need for my area? Doug >I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in > Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > that's true, can someone tell me the number of the one I need for my > area? SIM cards are not location specific. These are the things you need to know: 1. GSM or TDMA in your area (most likely it is GSM or both) 2. Frequency of network in your area ... 850 or 1900. To be on the safe side, get a phone that supports both 850 and 1900 and you will have GSM service anywhere it is available in the US. 3. You will need to get your SIM from Cingular or an authorized reseller. I don't think Cingular will reactivate an old SIM. >>I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in >> Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > SIM cards are not location specific. These are the things you need to > know: bbbbzzzzzztttttt........wrong answer. Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific SIM's will be available sometime in April. > 3. You will need to get your SIM from Cingular or an authorized reseller. > I don't think Cingular will reactivate an old SIM. Old SIM's cannot be re-activated. There are lots of new SIM's on eBay though.  SignatureJJ http://www.cingular.com http://www.texaspowerhouse.com http://www.txmma.com >>>I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in >>> Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific > SIM's will be available sometime in April. Interesting. My 3 month old phone w/ a new 64k sim works cross-country just as it did with my old 32k sim >>>>I want to buy a couple of new phones, but not from Cingular. I'm in >>>> Southeastern CT and it seems like all of the phones I look at on eBay [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > Interesting. My 3 month old phone w/ a new 64k sim works cross-country > just as it did with my old 32k sim Your SIM can be used nationwide however, your particular SIM could not be activated nationwide. The first 5 digits of the SIM determine the market that a SIM can be activated in. Sorry I wasn't clear. SignatureJJ http://www.cingular.com http://www.texaspowerhouse.com http://www.txmma.com > Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific SIM's > will be available sometime in April. Why the 6 month delay since the merger? Navas always said integration was easy. >> Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific >> SIM's >> will be available sometime in April. > > Why the 6 month delay since the merger? Navas always said integration > was easy. This was done intentionally. Unfortunately it did not work as intended. SignatureJJ http://www.cingular.com http://www.texaspowerhouse.com http://www.txmma.com > >> Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific > >> SIM's [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > This was done intentionally. Unfortunately it did not work as intended. Please explain how Cingular screwed up. Per Jiu Jitsuperfly: >Old SIM's cannot be re-activated. There are lots of new SIM's on eBay >though. I think something is starting to dawn on my from the context of various threads here. Try this: "There's nothing burned into a SIM that is 'me-specific'. No provider account number, no telephone number. The link between me, the SIM, and my provider is in the provider's DB that has the SIM number and my account number linked". Does this sound right? SignaturePeteCresswell >>Old SIM's cannot be re-activated. There are lots of new SIM's on eBay >>though. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Does this sound right? I have 2 old Cingular SIMs, and when I put them into a GSM phone, as soon as I turn it on, it still shows "My number". However, I think that is easily changeable, as people can keep the same SIM after changing phone numbers. > Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific SIM's > will be available sometime in April. Do you mean regionally or actually market specific (RSA/MSA)? Is there any truth to the regions and the 310-410/310-370/310-150 (along with AWS 310-380) rumors? TH >> Cingular 64K SIM's are currently market specific. Non-market specific >> SIM's will be available sometime in April. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > TH Market specific as in the region. Central market is the largest and covers Texas to Michigan, next is Eastern, Gulf market, and so on. Each has specific SIM #'s attached and then they are broken down even further into areas such as Austin numbers, Dallas, Little Rock, etc, etc.. To the second part, the reason they are coded that way is because Cingular is actually a mish-mash of merged companies. SignatureJJ http://www.cingular.com http://www.texaspowerhouse.com http://www.txmma.com |
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