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ruthless - 18 Apr 2005 17:52 GMT

What wireless technology does Trio 650 use to allow internet
access almost anywhere?

What wireless technology do notebooks use to gain internet
access at many hot-spots?

Is Bluetooth the same as 802.11a or b or g?

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Jack Zwick - 19 Apr 2005 00:45 GMT

> What wireless technology does Trio 650 use to allow internet
> access almost anywhere?

IP VIA GSM OR CDMA

> What wireless technology do notebooks use to gain internet
> access at many hot-spots?

802.11

> Is Bluetooth the same as 802.11a or b or g?

NO. its much slower over shorter distances

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ruthless - 19 Apr 2005 01:55 GMT

Then is it possible to make PC/notebooks to browse the net
using GSM or CDMA? Do wireless service providers like
Verizon and Cingular has something like that? How would
that work?

>> What wireless technology does Trio 650 use to allow internet
>> access almost anywhere?
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>NO. its much slower over shorter distances

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Jack Zwick - 19 Apr 2005 04:15 GMT

> Then is it possible to make PC/notebooks to browse the net
> using GSM or CDMA? Do wireless service providers like
> Verizon and Cingular has something like that? How would
> that work?

Yes they sell PC Cards for that. Cingular is currently selling the
Sony-Ericsson GC83. In some cases you'd have greater network availabilty
than WiFi.

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Joseph - 19 Apr 2005 13:29 GMT

>Then is it possible to make PC/notebooks to browse the net
>using GSM or CDMA? Do wireless service providers like
>Verizon and Cingular has something like that? How would
>that work?

You just subscribe to their data service on either one and have a
compatible phone with interface to your computer (commonly with cable
or Bluetooth connection.)

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wkearney99 - 20 Apr 2005 00:39 GMT

> Then is it possible to make PC/notebooks to browse the net
> using GSM or CDMA? Do wireless service providers like
> Verizon and Cingular has something like that? How would
> that work?

You can either add a cell modem PCMCIA card to the laptop or use a phone as
a modem. Either by connecting from the laptop to the phone via a USB cable
or a Bluetooth wireless connection. The phone acts as a "modem" and makes
the net connection. Bear in mind that PC networking requires a HELL OF A
LOT of packets so don't even *experiment* with it unless you're on an
unlimited data plan.

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Jack Zwick - 20 Apr 2005 13:20 GMT

> > Then is it possible to make PC/notebooks to browse the net
> > using GSM or CDMA? Do wireless service providers like
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> LOT of packets so don't even *experiment* with it unless you're on an
> unlimited data plan.

Not out of the box with Bluetooth on the Treo 650. It does not work as a
modem, unless you hack it.

http://shadowmite.com/

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ruthless - 19 Apr 2005 18:50 GMT

>> What wireless technology does Trio 650 use to allow internet
>> access almost anywhere?
>
>IP VIA GSM OR CDMA

How fast is the connection? Is it about the speed of 56K
analog modem?

What's some of the plans that allow smartphone and PDA to
access the internet? The best deal that I've found is
Cingular PDA unlimited for $44.99 at
http://onlinestore2.cingular.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ES_PROD_RATE.jsp?curT
abName=Data%20Plans&curCategoryName=PRP_PDACONNECT%20PLAN&storeId=14701&catalogI
d=14701&langId=-1&storeAlias=nycbmi&svcAreaId=QN8&isFamilyTalkFlow=false&subOrde
rId=1

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John Bartley K7AAY telcom admin, Portland OR - 20 Apr 2005 01:06 GMT

>>> What wireless technology does Trio 650 use to allow internet
>>> access almost anywhere?

>>IP VIA GSM OR CDMA

Well, sorta-kinda:

Actually, GPRS is the system used by the older GSM carriers, EDGE the newer, and
the major US CDMA carriers are using 1xRTT inside CDMA.

>How fast is the connection? Is it about the speed of 56K
>analog modem?

EDGE and 1xRTT are somewaht faster, but not radically. GPRS is slower.

>What's some of the plans that allow smartphone and PDA to
>access the internet? The best deal that I've found is
>Cingular PDA unlimited for $44.99 at
>http://onlinestore2.cingular.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ES_PROD_RATE.jsp?curT
abName=Data%20Plans&curCategoryName=PRP_PDACONNECT%20PLAN&storeId=14701&catalogI
d=14701&langId=-1&storeAlias=nycbmi&svcAreaId=QN8&isFamilyTalkFlow=false&subOrde
rId=1

T-Mobile has a $31/mo unmetered GPRS service. But, it's slower than the other US
majors (except for NEXTEL, which offeres a thundering 9.6kbps).

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Joseph - 20 Apr 2005 11:16 GMT

>T-Mobile has a $31/mo unmetered GPRS service. But, it's slower than the other US
>majors (except for NEXTEL, which offeres a thundering 9.6kbps).

T-Mobile GPRS T-Zones is $19.99 per month unlimited.

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John Bartley K7AAY telcom admin, Portland OR - 22 Apr 2005 00:30 GMT

>>T-Mobile has a $31/mo unmetered GPRS service. But, it's slower than the other US
>>majors (except for NEXTEL, which offeres a thundering 9.6kbps).
>
>T-Mobile GPRS T-Zones is $19.99 per month unlimited.

That requires you to have a voice plan to add T-Zones to. I just use it for
data, so my *total* monthly bill is $31. Your $19.99/mo must be added to a voice
plan.

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telecom syadmin, USBC-Oregon, Portland - Views are mine.
http://palmwireless.cjb.net Wireless FAQ for PalmOS(r)
Dilbert is a documentary.

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Joseph - 19 Apr 2005 01:27 GMT

>What wireless technology does Trio 650 use to allow internet
>access almost anywhere?

If you got it from cingular it uses GSM.

>What wireless technology do notebooks use to gain internet
>access at many hot-spots?

WiFi with either the 802.11B or 802.11G standard. It's wireless but
not related to mobile phones.

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