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This Sucks. I should have gone to Verizon

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Jim Jones - 15 May 2005 03:53 GMT
Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.
SS - 15 May 2005 03:59 GMT
> Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
> wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.

Can you block them on Verizon?  I thought they handled them the same.
Jim Jones - 15 May 2005 04:24 GMT
>> Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
>> wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.
>
>Can you block them on Verizon?  I thought they handled them the same.

I believe you can block on Verizon. Not only that, but I think they
give you a few more options not evident from their site
verizonwireless.com

I'm not 100% sure about that, tho.

A neighbor has Verizon, and he's started calling, and hiding his id.
No problem, except one: I don't answer calls that come in 'unknown'.

I know I can hide my id, by prepending *67 to every call I make, or
have that prefix  stored with every number,  in my phone, but why?

I can't even program my V551 to give 'unknowns' a silent, instead of a
ring.
SS - 15 May 2005 04:34 GMT
> >> Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
> >> wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.
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> I can't even program my V551 to give 'unknowns' a silent, instead of a
> ring.

There are "silent" ringtones floating around.  Many use this to handle
unknown calls.

Check Verizon very carefully- I really do think its the same over there.
Richie - 15 May 2005 08:58 GMT
SS is correct.  All the carriers hangle 'unknown' or 'private' calls the
same way.   You cannot block them.  But you can program your handset to deal
with each call individually (i.e. silent ring or other).

If you want to hide your number on all outgoing calls to other people, by
default, you can call Cingular and they will do that for a nominal fee.
Otherwise you can use the code *67 or #31#.

>> >> Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
>> >> wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.
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>
> Check Verizon very carefully- I really do think its the same over there.
Jer - 15 May 2005 14:56 GMT
> SS is correct.  All the carriers hangle 'unknown' or 'private' calls the
> same way.   You cannot block them.  But you can program your handset to deal
> with each call individually (i.e. silent ring or other).

My Cingular pals tell me their switch software has the capability to
offer call screening, but they have no plans to develop something like
the "Privacy Manager" feature available from Southwestern Bell
Telephone.  Privacy Manager rules!

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Joseph - 16 May 2005 14:38 GMT
>SS is correct.  All the carriers hangle 'unknown' or 'private' calls the
>same way.   You cannot block them.  But you can program your handset to deal
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>default, you can call Cingular and they will do that for a nominal fee.
>Otherwise you can use the code *67 or #31#.

Also, many handsets have a menu item for caller display so you can
always block CLIP.

>>> >> Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
>>> >> wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.
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>>
>> Check Verizon very carefully- I really do think its the same over there.

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(PeteCresswell) - 15 May 2005 14:48 GMT
Per Jim Jones:
>Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers

There's a downside to blocking "unknown" calls: some corporate phone systems
make all outgoing calls "Unknown" - So if you're trying to deal with people who
work at a place like that, they can't call you if Unknowns are blocked.
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Unquestionably Confused - 15 May 2005 14:58 GMT
> Per Jim Jones:
>
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> make all outgoing calls "Unknown" - So if you're trying to deal with people who
> work at a place like that, they can't call you if Unknowns are blocked.

If they aren't smart enough to respond to a unknown caller block, you
may not need to speak with them anyway.

All my Cingular lines are permanently blocked.  When I call someone who
has privacy manager or whatever the flavor of the month happens to be, I
just redial and preface the call with "*82", my CID is sent, and the
call goes through.  Very simple.

Now that I think about it, I wonder WHY Cingular doesn't offer "Privacy
Manager" or its equivalent to their customers.  Its parent, SBC, makes
money off of the product, with all the worry about telemarketers calling
our cell phones, you'd think it would be a natural.
Jer - 15 May 2005 22:09 GMT
>> Per Jim Jones:
>>
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> money off of the product, with all the worry about telemarketers calling
> our cell phones, you'd think it would be a natural.

More than one of us is wondering about the 'why' part.  It seems
Cingular would rather spend their efforts in developing their network
services into something more lucrative for hi-speed data applications.
Heaven forbid they actually care enough about their voice services to
offer a wireless version of Privacy Manager.

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Dave - 15 May 2005 21:34 GMT
> Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
> wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.

Would you rather block unknown callers and deal with billing mistakes every
month?  If so, you should have gone to Verizon.  -Dave
Joseph - 16 May 2005 14:36 GMT
>Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
>wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.

And what makes you think that you can do this with Verizon Wireless?
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Jud Hardcastle - 17 May 2005 22:47 GMT
> Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
> wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.

Why are you getting "unknown" callers on the cell phone--are you
forwarding a landline to it?  The only "unknowns" I get on the cell are
legit calls from companies, especially doctor offices, that don't want
to publish their numbers--companies that I have "done business with".  
AFAIK it is still against federal rules (47 USC 227 and 47 CFR 64.1200)
for a company to telemarket to a cellular phone and it's THEIR
responsibility to validate the number.  Complain to the carrier.  Also,
are you aware that you can list your cell phone number on the national
Do Not Call list?  If it's on that list it doesn't matter if it's
landline or cellular.  That's cut down junk calls to my land line so
much that I dropped Privacy Manager a couple of months ago.  Used to get
several a day before getting PM--now maybe one or two a week.
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Dallas TX USA

* * Chas - 18 May 2005 03:00 GMT
> > Now knowing that I can't block unknown callers makes me more than ever
> > wish I'd gone to Verizon, instead of Cingular.
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> Jud
> Dallas TX USA

My company has over a 100 phone extensions. They all show up as
Unknown Caller! Same thing with a lot of my customers.

The Caller ID feature is a double edged sword. While it provides a
measure of privacy, there are many people and companies who have their
land lines set to not accept calls with Caller ID Blocked!

Get over it!
 
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