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Why Did The Cingular Rep Upgrade My SIM?

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Scott en Aztlán - 05 Jun 2005 02:15 GMT
Sorry, I guess I haven't kept up with the latest fashion trends :). I
upgraded my phone today (to a Seimens SX66) in a Cingular store. The
rep deactivated my old SIM and gave me a new 64K unit. He said I
needed it in order to access both Cingular and (former) AT&T cell
towers. Of course, he also said my new phone would not work with my
Media Works package and that I had to switch to a "PDA Data Plan" at
twice the price, which turned out to be untrue, so clearly he's not as
fully informed as he thinks. ;)

So what's the real scoop?

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Fred - 05 Jun 2005 03:16 GMT
The 64K simply is capable of storing more information on it which is needed
since the merger.  Your SX66 may very well work with the package you have
but you are supposed to have the PDA plan.  Hopefully you have gotten your
1st bill to verify you are correct for billing purposes also or you could be
in for a VERY VERY MAJOR surprise when you get the bill.

Fred

> Sorry, I guess I haven't kept up with the latest fashion trends :). I
> upgraded my phone today (to a Seimens SX66) in a Cingular store. The
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> Proud to be a wreckless driver!
> http://www.geocities.com/scottenaztlan/
Tony Clark - 06 Jun 2005 01:14 GMT
> The 64K simply is capable of storing more information on it which is
> needed
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>
> Fred
SNIP

According to the Cingular site there are no Media Net plans available for
PDA, RIM devices or PCs. There is also nothing that I can see in the legal
agreement that would prohibit using the $24.00 Unlimited Plan tethered to a
PDA or PC. The site is here http://www.cingular.com/media/media_legal if you
want to wade through the pages of legaleeze.

Of course it makes you wonder what the Treo 650 people are doing?

Cheers
TC
Fred - 06 Jun 2005 02:59 GMT
Two PDA plans are:
PDA 5 MB      PDR1  $29.99

PDA UNLTD PDR2  $39.99

(vertually everyone gets the unlimited for $39.99)

There is also a deadicated Blackberry plan (I don't have the exact name or
price for it) I'm sure customer care can tell you.  As for the legal stuff,
I'll stay away from that, let the lawyers fight over it.

Fred

> > The 64K simply is capable of storing more information on it which is
> > needed
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> Cheers
> TC
Joseph - 06 Jun 2005 13:39 GMT
>There is also a deadicated Blackberry plan

Deadicated????  

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Fred - 06 Jun 2005 03:00 GMT
Here are the Blackberry plans:

BB 39 4MB               $39.99    RB39

BB 49 UNL               $49.99    RB49

Again, the unlimited is the plan of choice.

Fred

> > The 64K simply is capable of storing more information on it which is
> > needed
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> Cheers
> TC
DeeBat - 06 Jun 2005 13:54 GMT
Tony Clark wrote:
> According to the Cingular site there are no Media Net plans available
> for PDA, RIM devices or PCs. There is also nothing that I can see in
> the legal agreement that would prohibit using the $24.00 Unlimited
> Plan tethered to a PDA or PC. The site is here
> http://www.cingular.com/media/media_legal if you want to wade
> through the pages of legaleeze.

The thing that caught my attention here is "MEdia Net is not equivalent
to landline Internet. Only select sites accessible through a mobile
connection are available. You are restricted from using a home page
other than the Cingular home page."

With a tethered connection, you can access any site, but according to
the above, you can only access select sites - read WAP.  I called
Cingular sales regarding this, and they were basically clueless.  It's
unfortunate that so few employees at Cingular really know what their
own policies are.  :(

Note also the following: "If you switch your phone connection from GPRS
to a Circuit-Switch Data connection, you will be billed airtime in
one-minute increments as provided by your rate plan."  With a tethered
connection, it is my understanding that you will be using a CSD or
Circuit-Switch Data connection.  Since with this you are billed
airtime, you are using your voice call minutes.  Anybody out there have
a GPRS connection using a tethered phone on a MEdia Net package?
Richard J. Wyble - 06 Jun 2005 14:52 GMT
DeeBat wrote (6/6/2005 8:54 AM):

> Tony Clark wrote:

Anybody out there have
> a GPRS connection using a tethered phone on a MEdia Net package?

Ever hear the phrase, "don't ask, don't tell"?

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DeeBat - 06 Jun 2005 17:04 GMT
> Ever hear the phrase, "don't ask, don't tell"?

What you seem to be implying here is that it is possible to do this -
maybe so, but I believe it's only a matter of time before Cingular
catches on - unless you do this very little.  Megabytes can rack up
very quickly on a tethered connection.
Tony Clark - 07 Jun 2005 06:39 GMT
>> Ever hear the phrase, "don't ask, don't tell"?
>
> What you seem to be implying here is that it is possible to do this -
> maybe so, but I believe it's only a matter of time before Cingular
> catches on - unless you do this very little.  Megabytes can rack up
> very quickly on a tethered connection.

Yes it is possible and I know from personal experience. I can tether my
phone to my Palm and download emails to the Palm. As for "don't ask, don't
tell" as I stated there are no terms in the agreement that prohibit
tethering the phone to a PDA or laptop. That doesn't necessarily mean that
Cingular likes you using it tethered but they certainly (at this time) don't
prohibit it.

Of course if they don't want me to do that I can always cancel my MediaNet
service and that will be $19.99/mo less revenue for Cingular.

Cheers
TC
BarryHill@gmail.com - 10 Jun 2005 01:16 GMT
>Of course it makes you wonder what the Treo 650 people are doing?

I wish I knew.  I have a new Treo-650 (which I LOVE).  My first bill
was very high ($400+) due to data use...even though I had a 5mb plan.
None of the MB's were used, and every byte was billed.  After a call
the rep said I was on the wrong data plan and being double billed.  A
credit was issued, and now I am on yet another 5mb plan.  On the
web-site it lists "Media Basic Package - $9.99" and "Data Access 5mb -
$19.99".  Does this cound correct?  Are there other options for a Treo
user, such as an unlimited plan?

Thanks!

Barry - NY  "Treo Confused"
 
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