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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / June 2005About unlock codes
I bought a Motorolla Razr 3 without going through Cingular... I did not realize that I could not use it with another company... I'm with Cingular now but what if I decided to go with Verizon? How would I use my phone with them? The point I'm making is that if I bought the phone w/o going through Cingular why would they have control over the phone so that I can't unlock it? Babs >I bought a Motorolla Razr 3 without going through Cingular... I did not >realize that I could not use it with another company... I'm with Cingular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >Babs Without going into further details your phone cannot be used with Verizon. Verizon is CDMA and your V3 is GSM. To get the phone unlocked you will first have to know which provider it is locked to and ask them for the unlock code giving them the IMEI number. If tthat won't work you will probably have to go online and pay someone to create the unlock code for you and they will charge you anywhere from $20 up and sometimes you might have to send them the phone. Do a Google search and you will find tons of pages on unlocking. HTH First of all forget about a phone being locked. Most importantly, Cingular and Verizon phones work differently and there is no way in the world that a Cingular phone will ever work on the Verizon network. The Cingular phone works only on a GSM Network while the Verizon phone only works on a CDMA network. If you can get your Cingular phone unlocked it will only work on a GSM network such as T-Mobile. Bruce D. Brown >I bought a Motorolla Razr 3 without going through Cingular... I did not > realize that I could not use it with another company... I'm with Cingular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > Babs > First of all forget about a phone being locked. Most importantly, > Cingular and Verizon phones work differently and there is no way in the [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] >> >> Babs It was stated that the phone was not bought through Cingular, so it's probaly not locked anyhow. But of course it will never work on Verizon. bamp Phone manufacturers don't sell phones to consumers, but instead the cell network providers. Consequently, they (Motorola in this case) please the customer by adhering to their requirements. In the case of the Razr, the only US provider selling the Razr is Cingular due to exclusive launch agreements. Cingular requires that Motorola subsidy lock the phone to a Cingular SIM card. Like the previous posters, the phone can be unlocked by "other means" or by simply asking Cingular for the unlock code. How do you know if you phone is unlocked? Put another provider's SIM card in the phone and see if the phone recognizes their network. If it prompts you for an unlock code, your phone is locked. Do not attempt to guess the code or this will just make your life more miserable! Also keep in mind that US Razr's are loaded with a software configuration that is optimized to Cingular. Using the phone on another GSM provider's network may require some tweaking to get the GPRS (data) connection working. But for the most part, the ability to make voice calls will work on any GSM network. In the previous message machXS1@comcast.net machXS1@comcast.net wrote: > Phone manufacturers don't sell phones to consumers, but instead the > cell network providers. Consequently, they (Motorola in this case) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > GPRS (data) connection working. But for the most part, the ability to > make voice calls will work on any GSM network. Thanks for that info... One reason I wanted to know is because someone at work has Verizon and they want this phone and I didn't know Verizon can't use Cingular phones (I'm new to this), I also wanted to know why in case I changed service providers in the future (looks like I don't have much choice now does it?).. But, the main reason is because I just feel that if I buy a phone I like I shouldn't be forced into buy another phone to use another provider... Doesn't that sound odd to you? Babs > Thanks for that info... One reason I wanted to know is because someone at > work has Verizon and they want this phone and I didn't know Verizon can't [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > Babs The biggest issue here is not that Cingular has locked the phone (though it is annoying), but it's that Cingular's technology works differently than Verizon's. Think of it this way, Cingular's technology speaks German, and Verizon's technology speaks Chinese. Even if you could introduce a Cingular phone to Verizon, they wouldn't understand each other, and there's no way to make the Cingular phone learn Chinese. > But, the main reason is because I just feel that if I buy a >phone I like I shouldn't be forced into buy another phone to use another >provider... Doesn't that sound odd to you? If another provider is using the same technology it should be easy provided you don't run into roadblocks set in place by your carrier. If on the other hand another provider uses a different incompatible technology you can't do it even if you want to. If you have a Ford you don't expect to be able to put a Chevrolet transmission in it. - - > Phone manufacturers don't sell phones to consumers, but instead the > cell network providers. Consequently, they (Motorola in this case) [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > connection working. But for the most part, the ability to make voice > calls will work on any GSM network. A source for the phone you can't buy, except from Cingular. http://www.myworldphone.com/razrblack.html bamp Motorola has released a CDMA version of the RAZR in Korea this month. They have announced plans to release a US CDMA RAZR as well in about 6 months. Among the differences between the GSM and CDMA... the korean CDMA version has a nicer camera and be 1mm thicker. The US version will probably be very similar to the korean one. Although there is speculation, it has not yet been announced/decided which US CDMA provider will offer the RAZR. Sprint/Nextel and Verizon are the largest CDMA networks, so it probably depends on which provider will give motorola the best deal. Personally, I am hoping that Sprint will offer it since Verizon has a nasty habit of removing features on phones in order to get customers to pay them for services that do the same thing. Also, I use sprint and haven't replaced my StarTac because i've never found a worthy successor to it (the Timeport had a similar design but was too bulky). However, the RAZR is clearly the heir-apparent. It is almost the exact same dimensions of my StarTac with the flat battery inserted (and the antennae clipped). I've been patiently waiting for a CDMA version ever since I saw the zingular GSM model. The US CDMA RAZR is due in early 2006. Lets hope it doesn't go for $400 like the GSM was 6 months ago when I first saw it (it has now dropped to ~$100) Thanks everyone for your information, this is certainly a learning curve for me and it is quite interesting... Babs |
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