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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / July 2005Update pushed to phone?
I charge my phone (V600) in a cradle near my PC speakers and I'm used to hearing brief static/chatter in my PC speakers every now and then as my phone and the nearby tower discuss whatever phones and towers discuss, but nothing long and sustained. Just now the chatter/static started then stopped for a second then started again and kept this pattern up for a minute or two. Much, much longer than anytime before. Rather than "are you there" chatter could this have been some sort of major update? I've had this phone and service for a year and ever heard this level of communication before. >I charge my phone (V600) in a cradle near my PC speakers and I'm used > to hearing brief static/chatter in my PC speakers every now and then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sort of major update? I've had this phone and service for a year and > ever heard this level of communication before. Probably was an update. I call about once a month and get the sim updates pushed to my phone and they "chatter" for a while, although less than a minute. A Cingular rep told me they send the updates automatically, but I know I'm up to date if I call and get them. bamp > Probably was an update. I call about once a month and get the sim updates > pushed to my phone and they "chatter" for a while, although less than a > minute. You're probably correct about the length of time. It could have been less than a minute. My sense of time length is screwy unless I count - "thousand and one, thousand and two, thousand and three, ......" >>I charge my phone (V600) in a cradle near my PC speakers and I'm used >> to hearing brief static/chatter in my PC speakers every now and then [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > >bamp Bamp - How do you 'call' for an update? Is this limited to specific phones or will it work for all Cingular branded phones? subdude >>>I charge my phone (V600) in a cradle near my PC speakers and I'm used >>> to hearing brief static/chatter in my PC speakers every now and then [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > > subdude Phone Cingular CS and ask, they will send it to you. You should call on a land line, they prefer your phone is turned off when they send it. When you receive it you will get a message to turn your phone off & back on. Yes it will work on all Cingular GSM phones. bamp >>>Probably was an update. I call about once a month and get the sim updates >>>pushed to my phone and they "chatter" for a while, although less than a [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > >bamp Thanks, Bro (or Sis <G>). sudude >>>>Probably was an update. I call about once a month and get the sim updates >>>>pushed to my phone and they "chatter" for a while, although less than a [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > > sudude I might also mention that I've been told your handset needs to be on it's home network - not roaming out in the breezes somewhere.  Signaturejer email reply - I am not a 'ten' >I charge my phone (V600) in a cradle near my PC speakers and I'm used >to hearing brief static/chatter in my PC speakers every now and then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sort of major update? I've had this phone and service for a year and > ever heard this level of communication before. Do you have SIM update notification turned on or off? If on you should have gotten something on your phone as a message that your SIM card was updated. - - > Do you have SIM update notification turned on or off? If on you > should have gotten something on your phone as a message that your SIM > card was updated. I hunted through the Motorola V600 manual and could not find a setting for "SIM update notification". Is this feature available on a V600? > Do you have SIM update notification turned on or off? If on you > should have gotten something on your phone as a message that your SIM > card was updated. Okay, as a newbie to Cingular, fresh with his RAZR V3: 1. WHat does a SIM update do? Is it equiovalent to a PRL update on a CDMA phone? 2. How does one turn on SIM Update notification? SignatureE-mail fudged to thwart spammers. Transpose the c's and a's in my e-mail address to reply. >1. WHat does a SIM update do? Is it equiovalent to a PRL update on a >CDMA phone? Pretty much -- there is a roaming network list in the GSM SIM. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >I charge my phone (V600) in a cradle near my PC speakers and I'm used > to hearing brief static/chatter in my PC speakers every now and then [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > sort of major update? I've had this phone and service for a year and > ever heard this level of communication before. I think it was Big Brother enabling the "listen in" feature remotely on your phone. Steve its called GSM. get used to it! It's just checking in with the towe is all. the only reason you would need a push to change your prefered networ is if you have bad reception on one network and good on another. Sa your phone preferes the 310-410 (orange) network but you get bette signal on the 310-380 (blue) network, they can send you a push t change your phones preference to the blue, but they prefer not to. Yo may have to call a few times before you get a cs rep who will do it. > A Cingular rep told me they send the updates automatically, but I kno > I'm whoever told you this was smoking crack. There are no OTA update except for pushes to change network preferences. There are not eve any phones on the market yet that allow for any type of OTA softwar updates. if that's what you ment >the only reason you would need a push to change your prefered network >is if you have bad reception on one network and good on another. Updates can also change the roaming list. >Say >your phone preferes the 310-410 (orange) network but you get better >signal on the 310-380 (blue) network, they can send you a push to >change your phones preference to the blue, but they prefer not to. You >may have to call a few times before you get a cs rep who will do it. That only works with ENS-capable phones and 64K SIMs. >> A Cingular rep told me they send the updates automatically, but I know >> I'm [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >any phones on the market yet that allow for any type of OTA software >updates. if that's what you ment. Not true. I've gotten unsolicited Cingular OTA updates on my Sony Ericsson Z600. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > >>the only reason you would need a push to change your prefered network >>is if you have bad reception on one network and good on another. > >Updates can also change the roaming list. Wait a minute. Is this like a Verzon style PRL? I thought the network controlled everything with GSM or is this specifically an ENS thing? If I understand ENS, it is a workaround until the networks are fully integrated. My RAZRs are imports so they don't have ENS but seem to function pretty well. I was especially surprised to find myself on a t-mobile tower here in Stroudsburg, PA one day. It happens all the time in NY but I didn't know there were agreements outside NY/NJ. Sure as heck didn't work the other way a few months ago. >>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Wait a minute. Is this like a Verzon style PRL? It's similar. >I thought the network controlled everything with GSM or is this >specifically an ENS thing? Roaming is also network controlled. >If I understand ENS, it is a workaround until the networks are fully >integrated. Correct. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > >Correct. Thanks. One question I forgot to ask is if it's worth going through the hassle of a FLEX to get ENS. I have changed a few bits with a SEEM edit but haven't tried the FLEX thing. >>>Wait a minute. Is this like a Verzon style PRL? >> [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >of a FLEX to get ENS. I have changed a few bits with a SEEM edit but >haven't tried the FLEX thing. I don't know, but I tend to doubt it. Regardless, I personally think it makes more sense to switch to an ENS-capable handset rather than to try to hack a non-ENS capable handset. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> if you are with cingular and have a semi new phone then your phon should have ens. Neither ens or the 64k sim has anything to do wit your 'home' or prefered network. Besides the sim holding the networ list info. Ens does nothing more than help with load balancing. I does not make your phone grab the strongest signal. It will still hol on to the home network signal no matter how weak it is. Ens allows i to change to another tower depending on the load on the tower you ar presently registered to. You're confusing the term update with push, which are not refered to a OTA. An update implies a software update, which is not possible, no even on the z600. You sure you don't mean unsolicited messages of som sort? Every push or OTA I have ever requested was totally invisible o my end. the easiest solution is to enabled manual network selection on you phone so you can change to a stronger signal whenever you want. Yo can use motokit to enable the advanced menus on the v600 > if you are with cingular and have a semi new phone then your phone > should have ens. Neither ens or the 64k sim has anything to do with [quoted text clipped - 14 lines] > phone so you can change to a stronger signal whenever you want. You > can use motokit to enable the advanced menus on the v600. I've had an update sent to my phone every month for the last 6 months. The CSR that I get always has sent it to me by asking for it. Go to the Cingular Support Forums, get on live chat and ask if they send SIM updates to your phone. The address is: http://forums.cingular.com/cng .. bamp I have a brand new 64k sim. There are no updates! they are brand new! lol I did have them make 'blue' my pref network intead of orange becouse o better reception at my house. By updates, what do you mean. They ca send a update to your sim to change your pref network, but thats no called an update its an opl push. To me at least, update mean software related. Like updates for your pc and phone software update cant be done ota. also, live chat is closed |
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