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Flower Power - 29 Aug 2005 18:24 GMT

I just received my V180 upgrade from Cingular. It came with a new SIM. I
would like to know what differences to expect between using the old SIM and
the new one. I can see that the new one wouldn't contain my phonebook and
settings, but what else should I look for. Thanks.

-Mike

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PC Medic - 30 Aug 2005 00:35 GMT

>I just received my V180 upgrade from Cingular. It came with a new SIM. I
> would like to know what differences to expect between using the old SIM
> and
> the new one. I can see that the new one wouldn't contain my phonebook and
> settings, but what else should I look for. Thanks.

Not sure about the SIM, but when Cingular took over Suncom in our area this
year they replaced my four brand new Motorola's (which I loved by the way)
with four V180's. My opinion is the V180 is a piece of crap! Constant
dropped calls, poor audio quality (choppy signal) and 3 of the four have
suffered from the black screen lost audio issue that is so well documented
here in the newsgroup and other forums.

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ja - 30 Aug 2005 00:40 GMT

There is a way to copy the phone book over to the new sim card at least. I
know you can do it on Nokia and Samsung phones, so I assume you can do it
with Motorola as well.

First take your old sim card, stick it in the phone, and tell it to move all
contacts from sim card memory to phone memory.

then switch phone cards and then move them all back to your new sim card.

>I just received my V180 upgrade from Cingular. It came with a new SIM. I
> would like to know what differences to expect between using the old SIM
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>
> -Mike

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John Navas - 30 Aug 2005 21:48 GMT

>I just received my V180 upgrade from Cingular. It came with a new SIM. I
>would like to know what differences to expect between using the old SIM and
>the new one. I can see that the new one wouldn't contain my phonebook and
>settings, but what else should I look for. Thanks.

The new SIM is probably 64K, meaning that it supports ENS (the only change),
which allows Cingular to "Home" it OTA (over the air) to either the "blue"
(old ATTWS) network or the "orange" (old Cingular) network, which may improve
your call quality in a given location.

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Flower Power - 31 Aug 2005 18:11 GMT

Thanks to all who replied. I first tried my old SIM (which, of course,
worked) and then installed and registered the new one after copying my
phonebook to the old SIM and then into the phone memory. It took some
time for the new SIM to get registered, but now everything is OK. I can't
tell if the size of the new SIM is any larger, tho. It still has the same
512 (I believe) entry phonebook and I seem to be limited to only a half
dozen voice tags. One difference I notice is that during the last month
or so, my old T193 thought it was roaming while in my home area, but the
V180 recognizes the same network as being Cingular rather than USA-410
(or whatever). Cingular support tried to correct that by sending some
sort of update, but it apparently didn't take.
-Mike

> The new SIM is probably 64K, meaning that it supports ENS (the only
> change), which allows Cingular to "Home" it OTA (over the air) to
> either the "blue" (old ATTWS) network or the "orange" (old Cingular)
> network, which may improve your call quality in a given location.

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John Navas - 31 Aug 2005 22:39 GMT

As I wrote, there is no difference with 64K SIMs as compared to earlier SIMs
other than ENS; i.e., there is no change in user memory, phonebook entries,
etc.

>Thanks to all who replied. I first tried my old SIM (which, of course,
>worked) and then installed and registered the new one after copying my
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>> either the "blue" (old ATTWS) network or the "orange" (old Cingular)
>> network, which may improve your call quality in a given location.

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Best regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES:
John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular>

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Tropical Haven - 01 Sep 2005 00:37 GMT

>Thanks to all who replied. I first tried my old SIM (which, of course,
>worked) and then installed and registered the new one after copying my
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>
>

I wouldn't worry too much if the screen says USA 410, as 410 is
Cingular's network, so whether the display reads "Cingular", "Cingular
Wireless", "USA-41", "USA-410", "310-41", or "310-410", it's all the
same company.

TH

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