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DC/Balto GSM turn-on date?

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tom glaab - 08 Sep 2003 14:38 GMT
The last rumor for unbarring the DC/Balto GSM-850 network was 7
September 2003. It's not up ... any word on how far it slipped?

tg.
Chris Russell - 09 Sep 2003 04:35 GMT
Sure thought I had CCCH (GSM on the field test screens) part of the time
I came down I-270, around I-495 and up Leesburg Pike and over Baron
Cameron RD to Reston and back three weks ago.

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glaabtom@netscape.net (tom glaab) wrote in article
<60c41fe3.0309080538.644ce63@posting.google.com>:

> The last rumor for unbarring the DC/Balto GSM-850 network was 7
> September 2003. It's not up ... any word on how far it slipped?
>
> tg.
tom glaab - 09 Sep 2003 12:34 GMT
> Sure thought I had CCCH (GSM on the field test screens)
> ... three weks ago.

The network has been in place for a while, but not open to consumers.
You probably saw it on your field test screen, but could you register
on Cingular and use the network?

tg.
Chris Russell - 09 Sep 2003 13:14 GMT
Made and received calls while on GSM.  With this phone, if I have a
signal it is usable.

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glaabtom@netscape.net (tom glaab) wrote in article
<60c41fe3.0309090334.343e0435@posting.google.com>:

> > Sure thought I had CCCH (GSM on the field test screens)
> > ... three weks ago.
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>
> tg.
tom glaab - 09 Sep 2003 20:19 GMT
> Made and received calls while on GSM.  With this phone, if I have a
> signal it is usable.

Interesting. They must be moving from north to south, or only turning
on for short periods at a time. Haven't seen anything in downtown DC
yet.

tg.
Gibson, Andy - 14 Sep 2003 01:44 GMT
In talking with the local Cingular rep in the mall (Northern VA), the turn
on is expected Monday 15 Sept.  He also implied 14 new phones very soon and
another 6 before the end of the year.  No details offered other than to say
he was excited about the activity.
Andy

> The last rumor for unbarring the DC/Balto GSM-850 network was 7
> September 2003. It's not up ... any word on how far it slipped?
>
> tg.
Elliot P. Lewis - 14 Sep 2003 13:02 GMT
On Saturday, Sep 13, Cingular was running radio ads in DC that ALL phones
were now free.  Must be clearing out the TDMA stock.

> In talking with the local Cingular rep in the mall (Northern VA), the turn
> on is expected Monday 15 Sept.  He also implied 14 new phones very soon and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
> >
> > tg.
tom glaab - 15 Sep 2003 23:33 GMT
> In talking with the local Cingular rep in the mall (Northern VA), the turn
> on is expected Monday 15 Sept.

Guess the key word is "expected." Don't see anything today (tried
Arlington, Rosslyn, downtown DC, Bethesda). Either that or my 850/1900
phone isn't doing 850 :-(

tg.
Dave Blank - 01 Oct 2003 20:54 GMT
glaabtom@netscape.net (tom glaab) wrote in article
<60c41fe3.0309151433.52c6065f@posting.google.com>:
> > In talking with the local Cingular rep in the mall (Northern VA), the turn
> > on is expected Monday 15 Sept.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> tg.

Monday October 6th, I've heard.  Most Cingular dealers should already
have the new phones in stock.  They also have the brochures in now.
DC/Balto will be almost identical to Philly with respect to phones and
price plans (National).
-WD
tom glaab - 06 Oct 2003 17:16 GMT
WirelessDave@nospam.com (Dave Blank) wrote
> Monday October 6th, I've heard.

Sure enough I have a signal this morning. Will have to play around to
see how the coverage is and if in-building penetration is better than
the 1900MHz...

tg.
Mark A. Smith - 06 Oct 2003 17:55 GMT
You're right! GSM has arrived!

Have a good one,

Mark A. Smith

> > Monday October 6th, I've heard.
>
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>
> tg.
chetldr - 07 Oct 2003 00:51 GMT
please post your findings (with general location if possible).  thanks.

| You're right! GSM has arrived!
|
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| >
| > tg.
Mark A. Smith - 07 Oct 2003 07:07 GMT
   I'm in Essex, MD, just east of Baltimore City, and had a GSM signal
to/from work, near BWI airport. It seemed to work well. I can't tell you
anything about GPRS, as the Nokia 6340i doesn't have it.
   The audio level appears to be greater than when I was using TDMA.

Have a good one,

Mark A. Smith

> please post your findings (with general location if possible).  thanks.
>
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> | >
> | > tg.
tom glaab - 07 Oct 2003 01:27 GMT
"Mark A. Smith" <mas9973@comcast.net> wrote
> You're right! GSM has arrived!

I've done a bit more playing and have found:

- I can make calls, but not receive them. Inbound calls get a funky
"you've misdialed" recording.
- GPRS doesn't work. The WAP APN gets a connection and burns bytes,
but the phone's browser (moto t720) doesn't launch. The external APN
never connects.
- Coverage is pretty good, except in my windowless basement office (of
course). My phone still grabs T-Mo upon seeing daylight, but quickly
switches over to "Cingular Wireless".
- My home market is 310-150 (Cingular Carolinas), so the phone
indicates roaming on the DC network (310-410).

I'll give it another day or so before calling customer disservice.

tg.
Dave Blank - 07 Oct 2003 17:38 GMT
glaabtom@netscape.net (tom glaab) wrote in article
<60c41fe3.0310061627.39a79e02@posting.google.com>:
> > You're right! GSM has arrived!
>
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> course). My phone still grabs T-Mo upon seeing daylight, but quickly
> switches over to "Cingular Wireless".

> tg.

I have gotten excellent phone coverage in Harford County (Samsung
SGH-307), have not had any trouble receiving calls, ... only problem
appears to be GPRS.  Worked yesterday afternoon long enough to download
a graphic.   Hasn't worked since.  CS is poorly educated on Wireless
Internet when you call.
I did pick up extend on I-95.  I wonder if I'll get billed for roaming?
WD
tom glaab - 08 Oct 2003 02:37 GMT
WirelessDave@nospam.com (Dave Blank) wrote
> I have gotten excellent phone coverage in Harford County (Samsung
> SGH-307), have not had any trouble receiving calls, ... only problem
> appears to be GPRS.

I spent half an hour with customer disservice this afternoon. Never
got shot to Tier 2 that fast. By that time they were answering "oh,
another Carolinas customer...".

They admitted to two switches being out (one in DC and one in my home
market). Also said that the Openwave server for WIX/GPRS was being
"upgraded" and was up and down all day.

By the time I got back to the 310-150 network (Carolinas GSM)
everything was healthy, so I don't know that my experience was unique
to the DC rollout. Will continue to follow up.

tg.
Jer - 08 Oct 2003 04:25 GMT
> WirelessDave@nospam.com (Dave Blank) wrote
>
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> market). Also said that the Openwave server for WIX/GPRS was being
> "upgraded" and was up and down all day.

Good grief!  Don't those folks have a nightshift?

> By the time I got back to the 310-150 network (Carolinas GSM)
> everything was healthy, so I don't know that my experience was unique
> to the DC rollout. Will continue to follow up.
>
> tg.

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tom glaab - 14 Oct 2003 21:50 GMT
glaabtom@netscape.net (tom glaab) wrote
> I've done a bit more playing and have found:
> [various problems]
> I'll give it another day or so before calling customer disservice.

A week has passed and things look a lot better. SMS is working,
inbound calls are working, and GPRS (WAP) is working.

Now to see if I start getting billed for GPRS on the road.. :-(

tg.
chetldr - 15 Oct 2003 03:23 GMT
hey tom -

two things - what is GPRS?  Sorry, but I use my service to make calls only
and the website doesn't explain it very well.

also - from reading you last post is TDMA 1900 mhz in DC / Baltimore?

thanks,
cdlr

| > I've done a bit more playing and have found:
| > [various problems]
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|
| tg.
 
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