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Re: Brainstorm: How can I/You/Me help those people in New Orleans  outside of money, gifts, and prayers

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dr.news - 05 Sep 2005 16:44 GMT
Larry, "idea." in 911, they created  a local message board.  People would
leave messages or pictures, rarely getting an answer.  We could create a
by-subscription (moderated) message board.  If people were consistent, we
could designate a phone number where people could leave messages, and we
would write that message up with a time-stamp (top posting).  We could be an
inbound message center, although perhaps already setup by the red cross/
salvation army... can't say, because I'm not there.  This would be a
"global" message board for anything inbound/outbound from the area.
Important would be making sure that the "subject" of the message points to a
unique person, and moderated, to keep the BS out of it.

Subject Message Format: last name, first name, <middle initial> <original
home phone number> < are optional>.  Those folks in distress can't receive
inbound calls, but a message center, would possibly relieve pressure for
someone trying to connect.  If someone did call in, and we had the ability,
we could 3-way that person to whom-ever...  an idea, but I've never done it
before.  dr
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"dr.news" <dr.news@better-price.biz.delete-the-obvious> wrote in message
news:...

> Larry, that was a compelling story.  If you could figure a way to make
> "contact" with a family, perhaps one or more folks would do the same.  So
> you have a great idea, now we need a high-level plan of action that lets
> one of "us" get in touch with one of "them".  I'll assume that calling the
> Red Cross or Salvation Army to get that information would be a
> contradiction on your approach.
> So, Larry, how would we go about adopting a family, where do we start.
> Where would you start, what steps would you take, how can we do something,
> like that.  Critical right now is food, medical, housing.   (Did you
> checkout the FEMA site... as we are now into recovery)
>
> And for what you did Larry: God Bless You... awesome: dr
>
>> CellGuy <cellguy@seemessagebody.com> wrote in
>> news:1fz9h11xh1h96$.11w61z0om9s52.dlg@40tude.net:
>>
>>> Ditto.   My favorite is the Salvation Army.   They always seem to be
>>> at the scene with food, etc.   BTW, I'm not a religious person.
>>
>> For 9/11, I called one of the firehouses that were all over the TV and
>> asked the chief to find me a fireman's family who died in the towers so I
>> could help his wife DIRECTLY, without paying some fatcat Red Cross
>> administrator a new Rolex or Lexus on the way.  I gave him my email
>> address
>> and got an email back from a lady with 2 kids in NJ whos husband died in
>> Tower 1 when it collapsed.  She was still waiting for the NYFD
>> bureaucrats
>> to send some help to pay her bills as they held up hubby's paycheck for
>> the
>> lawyers.
>>
>> I told her to send me her electric bill and I'd pay it.  I did for 6
>> months.  At Thanksgiving I tried to get a local NJ restaurant to cater
>> Thanksgiving dinner for them when she told me her parents were coming
>> from
>> Ohio.  The restaurant refused my money, saying instead that they would
>> take
>> great pleasure in providing such a meal noone would soon forget.  Two
>> vans
>> full of food, servers all dressed up in tuxes, with all the fancy
>> tableware
>> astonished them all in a complete surprise.
>>
>> You don't know how much happiness I received from my gifts.  After the
>> smoke had cleared, I even called the chief back to see if we couldn't
>> make
>> her checks happen a little faster.  I like to think I had a hand in
>> getting
>> that to happen faster, too.
>>
>> Right now?  I'd say find a family holed up in a hotel in some far off
>> place
>> waiting for word on when they can go back and look at the slab that used
>> to
>> be their home.  As paychecks have stopped or are having trouble finding
>> them, I'd bet lots of people are wondering how they are going to pay the
>> hotel bills or the credit card bills the hotels are creating.  Your
>> donation could be protected by simply asking them to mail you the bill
>> and
>> you send the money to the hotel to help pay for their now-extended stay.
>> These direct payments, like my electric bill payment to the power company
>> in NJ, free up their personal funds for other necessities...like eating.
>>
>> Find someone who knows someone in coastal MS, LA, AL and just ask them
>> who
>> would need this kind of help.
>>
>> Sending it to some aid bureaucracy might feel good, but, alas....you'll
>> hear that great sucking sound.
>>
>> I found some Red Cross website in Idaho or someplace out there.  It said
>> over $1.051B, with a B, was donated for 9/11 to the Red Cross
>> bureaucrats.
>> Then it listed something less than $300M to victims and had some other
>> bogus handouts to "aid workers", which probably means THEM.  Well?  Why
>> not
>> send the extra SEVEN HUNDRED MILLION DOLLARS to the Gulf!....If it hasn't
>> been wasted building Red Cross office buildings and paying six-figure
>> salaries to bigshot bureaucrats.
>>
>> I like my way better.....So did she!
Notan - 05 Sep 2005 18:55 GMT
> Larry, "idea." in 911, they created  a local message board.
>
> <snip>

One problem... How many, of those involved, have Internet access?

Notan
Larry - 05 Sep 2005 21:20 GMT
> One problem... How many, of those involved, have Internet access?

And of those that do, how many would ever find it in the vast sea of
internet webpages....??

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Brad Houser - 06 Sep 2005 20:16 GMT
>> Larry, "idea." in 911, they created  a local message board.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Notan

Soon, quite a few...

http://news.moneycentral.msn.com/ticker/article.asp?feed=BW&Date=20050902&ID=5084357

Brad H
<not speaking for Intel>
dr.news - 06 Sep 2005 20:29 GMT
They don't need internet access, we do.  If we published phone number(s),
they call in, and we do the internet.  For sure, internet is their last
concern, but communication is a high concern.  We/you/I take the call, and
we post into the "blog" or whatever it is called.  Keyword, last name, first
name.  If you want to pick up a message or leave a message, you call.  Of
course, if you have internet access, great.

We need the internet access and a phone.  We publish our service, and do the
transcribe to post, or read if someone asks if they have a message.  I
imagine this:

Carol Williams calls in asking about "bob smith"  We then create a blog or
notes entry called:
Smith, Bob, 555-123-1234: carol williams called you at 10:15am Sunday.
Wanted you to know that your cat/dog were fine and are being cared for at
xxx.xxx.xxxx.  We know you are busy, so we will check in each day to see if
we have made a connect.  Don't worry about your xxxxxx, as we've already
contacted them and are taking care of your xxxxx.  (time/date stamp)

I would think this is just "notes", but perhaps what I'm describing is now
called a blog.  dr

(It is just an idea... no middle man, and anyone who can field a call, can
enter this information.  If it is dumb, I'm okay with that as well.  Just
thinking)
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>> Larry, "idea." in 911, they created  a local message board.
>>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
> Notan
Notan - 06 Sep 2005 20:47 GMT
> They don't need internet access, we do.  If we published phone number(s),
> they call in, and we do the internet.  For sure, internet is their last
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
> <snip>

Don't get me wrong... Any way that we can provide these people with some
form of communication is great, but I see some *major* obstacles.

The first, and foremost, is how/where do we provide phones? You can't
do it from home, because 1) Unless you're a local call, it's gonna cost
the caller money to make the call, 2) You really can't expect people to
make their home phones available, 24 hours per day.

Brad just posted a website, where, it appears that Intel is providing
Wireless Access points. While I haven't read much of the article, yet,
if Intel could hook up with a company, willing to provide 800 numbers,
they might really get somewhere.

Notan
Larry - 07 Sep 2005 00:47 GMT
> They don't need internet access, we do.

Here's one place where REAL people from NO are leaving messages, WITH
NUMBERS AND EMAIL ADDRESSES!

http://www.nola.com/weblogs/nola/index.ssf?/mtlogs/nola_nolaview/archives/2
005_08.html

I'm sure we can find a lot more.  I put "Katrina contacts" into Google and
there are thousands.....This one is from the NO Times-Picayune....what's
left of it.

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Larry - 05 Sep 2005 21:19 GMT
> Larry, "idea."

Make sure it has an email-verification callback to keep the animals out.  
The awful way the net is populated by scam artists, I doubt you'd be able
to keep it alive over a day, even with a staff of experts.

Direct works great...no publicity.

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