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do not spam - 08 Sep 2005 19:26 GMT

I am new to using a cell phone. I have had my Motorola V180 for two
weeks now. Like it alot and get good coverage where I live. My question
is about phone book entries. When I make one I have a choice between
Store to Phone or to SIM. What is the difference? I noticed with
storing to SIM I do not have the little icon that signifies what kind of
phone I am calling...mobile, home, business, etc... .

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Jeffrey Kaplan - 08 Sep 2005 21:08 GMT

It is alleged that do not spam claimed:

> I am new to using a cell phone. I have had my Motorola V180 for two
> weeks now. Like it alot and get good coverage where I live. My question
> is about phone book entries. When I make one I have a choice between
> Store to Phone or to SIM. What is the difference? I noticed with
> storing to SIM I do not have the little icon that signifies what kind of
> phone I am calling...mobile, home, business, etc... .

If you "store to phone", it will be stored in the phone's internal
memory. If you "store to SIM", it will be stored on the SIM card
instead. Why the difference?

The SIM card is portable: pop it out and into another GSM phone and
that's all you need to do. Your cellular account ID, etc, will be
immediately accessible to the GSM cellular network, and you'll have
access to your SIM stored phone book without having to re-enter
anything.

But the phone book on the SIM is minimal capabilities for maximum
compatibility. Not all available phones have the same phone book
fields, and not all in the same order if they do.

So if you store it to the SIM, you can pop it into another phone. But
if you store it to the phone, you'll have the more advanced and
user-friendly features.

What I did with mine (Treo 650) is store everything in the phone, and
copy my priority / must-have phone book entries to the SIM, just in
case I need to use a non-Palm phone (for a Palm smartphone, all I'd
have to do is pop the SD card and run a system restore).

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do not spam - 09 Sep 2005 04:28 GMT

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> case I need to use a non-Palm phone (for a Palm smartphone, all I'd
> have to do is pop the SD card and run a system restore).

Thanks for the answer. I suspected that was the case. One other
question. If the battery goes dead in the phone, or I remove it, are
the entries stored to the phone lost?

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ja - 09 Sep 2005 13:33 GMT

> One other question. If the battery goes dead in the phone, or I remove
> it, are the entries stored to the phone lost?

Nope!

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Jeffrey Kaplan - 09 Sep 2005 18:04 GMT

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> Thanks for the answer. I suspected that was the case. One other
> question. If the battery goes dead in the phone, or I remove it, are
> the entries stored to the phone lost?

Depends on the phone, but in most cases I think not. Most phones have
non-volatile memory. The only ones I can think of off hand that had
volatile memory (no power, memory gone) are the early Smartphones. I
know that the Treo 600 would lose its data if the battery died, but not
with the Treo 650.

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Joseph - 09 Sep 2005 05:06 GMT

>My question
>is about phone book entries. When I make one I have a choice between
>Store to Phone or to SIM. What is the difference? I noticed with
>storing to SIM I do not have the little icon that signifies what kind of
>phone I am calling...mobile, home, business, etc... .

With the SIM you can only store names and numbers. One per location
on the SIM. You cannot store multiple fields such as other phone
numbers or other information on the SIM. In the phone memory you can
store extra fields such as mobile number, office number, email
addresses, web addresses etc.

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