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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / September 2005Re: Option to help a person from NOLA one-on-one; Brainstorm: How can I/You/Me help those people in New Orleans outside of money, gifts, and prayers
Opportunity strikes when you don't expect it: Larry suggested doing something one-on-one. Well, opportunity knocks. The Peoria center has some NOLA folks, and a number of them have come in looking for cell phones. Some needed a $100-$125 deposit (Nextel/Sprint), and they wondered if we could help. Well, I thought about Larry's suggestion, helping someone one-on-one, with communications, aka: cell phone service. I prefer to not be in the middle, but here is a possibility: 1) confirm that the person is from NOLA of course 2) suggesting that you "talk" to them, and make a personal decision. 3) if you agree, we would help the customer setup their electronic billing with the carrier of choice, and you could contribute to their bill. Once, or as many times as you like. 4) if you want to help them get started, and pay the deposit, that could be done as well. I didn't expect this to come up but it just did. Which brings me to this person from NOLA, staying at a Peoria temporary home. Her name is Sandra M, and if you want to be connected to her, via her temporary home, you have the option of picking up her $100 deposit. Drop me a note if you'd like to be connected with her and help. An opportunity to help one NOLA person has now been dropped in your lap. (Their verizon deposit was $400... so, we tried other carriers...in case you wondered) Or you can kiss this off as a bad idea... dr  Signaturedr.news Better Price? (not better than you deserve, just more than you are used to) If I can help: dr.news@better-price.biz.delete-the-obvious or thru this notes forum. home of the better priced phone and service: http://free.better-price.biz "dr.news" <dr.news@better-price.biz.delete-the-obvious> wrote in message news:... > Peoria, puts their hearts where it belongs. Expecting 200-2000 people for > free housing and care. > > A Peoria area Baptist church, working with the Red Cross AND the Salvation > Army, offered to house 200-2000 people at their facility. We understand > that the offer has been accepted, and they are waiting for confirmation > that a large group of people is being air-lifted to the area. The Baptist > church is organizing volunteers, food, accommodation, playground > equipment, and dry green grass to play on. While I can't say how many > will be here, the call for volunteers to assist has been made on local > media. > > I guess if we can't get to NOLA, we bring them to us. Happy to report > that so many have come to the aid of those in need. Not just Peoria, but > the global community. Feels good, doesn't it. dr > > PS: I looked at the NOLA forum, and it is outstanding. It would have been > better if someone had set some rules for posting subject lines in a > standard format. But perfect would have been better planning before the > storm. >> They don't need internet access, we do. If we published phone number(s), >> they call in, and we do the internet. For sure, internet is their last >> concern, but communication is a high concern. We/you/I take the call, >> and we post into the "blog" or whatever it is called. Keyword, last >> name, first name. If you want to pick up a message or leave a message, >> you call. Of course, if you have internet access, great. >> >> We need the internet access and a phone. We publish our service, and do >> the transcribe to post, or read if someone asks if they have a message. >> I imagine this: >> >> Carol Williams calls in asking about "bob smith" We then create a blog >> or notes entry called: >> Smith, Bob, 555-123-1234: carol williams called you at 10:15am Sunday. >> Wanted you to know that your cat/dog were fine and are being cared for at >> xxx.xxx.xxxx. We know you are busy, so we will check in each day to see >> if we have made a connect. Don't worry about your xxxxxx, as we've >> already contacted them and are taking care of your xxxxx. (time/date >> stamp) >> >> I would think this is just "notes", but perhaps what I'm describing is >> now called a blog. dr >> >> (It is just an idea... no middle man, and anyone who can field a call, >> can enter this information. If it is dumb, I'm okay with that as well. >> Just thinking) >>> "dr.news" wrote: >>>> >>>> Larry, "idea." in 911, they created a local message board. >>>> >>>> <snip> >>> >>> One problem... How many, of those involved, have Internet access? >>> >>> Notan > dr.news Better Price? (not better than you deserve, just more than you are > used to) > If I can help: <spammer email snipped> or thru this > notes forum. > home of the better priced phone and service: There's a while new level of depravity involved when a scamster starts using tragedy to turn a profit. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ You sir/madam are a jerk. I've demonstrated nothing self serving. Spam... what a jerk you are. I put my money, as well as my email, where all can see it. Jerk. (sorry for being so annoyed with this jerk) For you "brainstorm", must be like a wet puddle. Damm I'm "^&*(" with people who can't even support a good idea. Happy to say that just this one JERK (did I say that enough times) treated the request for help as a spammer. Connecting a person (if they wanted too, one-on-one, with the local emergency shelter.... jerk) dr.news Better Price? (not better than you deserve, just MORE than you are used to) If I can help: ? dr.news@better-price.biz.delete-the-obvious or thru this notes forum. Home of the better priced phone and service http://free.better-price.biz In article <xq4Ue.1487$mj1.995@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>, dr.news@better-price.biz.delete-the-obvious says... > dr.news Better Price? (not better than you deserve, just more than you > are > used to) > If I can help: <spammer email snipped> or thru this > notes forum. > home of the better priced phone and service: There's a while new level of depravity involved when a scamster starts using tragedy to turn a profit. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ > You sir/madam are a jerk. I've demonstrated nothing self serving. Spam... > what a jerk you are. I put my money, as well as my email, where all can see > it. Jerk. (sorry for being so annoyed with this jerk) > > For you "brainstorm", must be like a wet puddle. Damm I'm "^&*(" with > people who can't even support a good idea. Did you ever hear the saying, "if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a duck"? You post links to only YOUR way of "helping" others, and you insult those who have chosen other means of providing help. You haven't the *slightest* clue what I have or haven't already done to assist victims of Katrina. But you have no problem insulting me and others just because we don't respond to YOUR posts on it. If that's your idea of helping, you can keep it. Your tactics come from the lowest of Internet slime. If you take offense because it dirties your cause, you have your tactics to blame. Not me for pointing them out. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ I've been in this newsgroup for years; mostly as a contributor. On the internet before it was fashionable, call it circa 1979 when we called it Arpanet and only the "geeks" even knew what it was; that and a 300 baud line, and a silent 700. You sir, are an O/Siris. As it makes no sense to add to your "whine" about doing a good dead. Damm if we stay silent, damm if we ask for help on behalf of someone else. You probably thought that the call for cell phones for possible victims of a serial killer were a hoax as well! How non-self serving can that be. You'd prefer that I sit quite while YOU save the world with your rants about the carriers. Sorry, but I'm a big enough person to take my lumps if I've crossed a line. But I did it with good intentions (as most of you know). I thought about not ever doing it again, but then they would have won. I'll speak out again, if I see fit. And if I get "blocked for it", then it will be your loss. You have heard another story: if you are about to be raped, cry FIRE, because no one responds to just help. You sir, should reconsider your duck story.... else someday you have to yell "fire" yourself, for whatever the cause. dr In article <_K6Ve.144$jS.138@newssvr30.news.prodigy.com>, dr.news@better-price.biz.delete-the-obvious says... > You sir/madam are a jerk. I've demonstrated nothing self serving. > Spam... > what a jerk you are. I put my money, as well as my email, where all can > see > it. Jerk. (sorry for being so annoyed with this jerk) Did you ever hear the saying, "if it walks like a duck, sounds like a duck, and looks like a duck, it's probably a duck"? You post links to only YOUR way of "helping" others, and you insult those who have chosen other means of providing help. You haven't the *slightest* clue what I have or haven't already done to assist victims of Katrina. But you have no problem insulting me and others just because we don't respond to YOUR posts on it. If that's your idea of helping, you can keep it. Your tactics come from the lowest of Internet slime. If you take offense because it dirties your cause, you have your tactics to blame. Not me for pointing them out. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ > Damm if we stay silent, damm if we ask for help on behalf > of someone else. Fine. You asked. Then you denigrate everyone because "not one of you...". I agree, you have a lot of gall to imply that no one helped because they didn't jump on YOUR bandwagon. You continue to do so. Please tell us why donating or helping through YOU is the only way for one to help. Since you persist in attaching your commercial sig to all this should we assume you are only doing this as a PR opportunity for your business? Why don't you just do what you will to help and I will continue to donate through the non-profit organizations. -Quick >> Damm if we stay silent, damm if we ask for help on behalf >> of someone else. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > -Quick Agredd! This is the wrong venue for this kind of solicitation.... PC > I've been in this newsgroup for years; mostly as a contributor. On the > internet before it was fashionable, call it circa 1979 when we called it [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > story.... else someday you have to yell "fire" yourself, for whatever the > cause. dr Non self-serving? http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9160668/ "Web sites claiming to collect donations for Hurricane Katrina victims. Phony e-mails pretending to solicit money from well-known charities. Online auctions of Internet domain names with Katrina-related addresses, such as "katrinaourtsunami.com." " That's how "non self-serving" you come across sounding. It's not about staying silent *or* about speaking out. It's about making sure that this well-intentioned relief actually releives suffering, instead of lining pockets. And, since you came here with all the bravado of the scammers in that story, you got colored with the same paintbrush. Don't like that? Too bad. I prefer my money and my efforts go to legitimate charities. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ O/Siris: Your cautions are founded, but unfortunately, I did not ask for money. I also didn't want to be in the middle. What I did, was offer to connect "anybody who desired" with the center that was housing the NOLA victim, and YOU could make a decision. Of course, I could have published her name/center/phone, but that is a violation of her confidentiality. Everybody needs to help in their own way/means. Easy enough. Hard to help someone in need, if you don't know that someone is in need. Dr :-) Non self-serving? http://msnbc.msn.com/id/9160668/ "Web sites claiming to collect donations for Hurricane Katrina victims. Phony e-mails pretending to solicit money from well-known charities. Online auctions of Internet domain names with Katrina-related addresses, such as "katrinaourtsunami.com." " That's how "non self-serving" you come across sounding. It's not about staying silent *or* about speaking out. It's about making sure that this well-intentioned relief actually releives suffering, instead of lining pockets. And, since you came here with all the bravado of the scammers in that story, you got colored with the same paintbrush. Don't like that? Too bad. I prefer my money and my efforts go to legitimate charities. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ > Of course, I could have published her name/center/phone, but that is a > violation of her confidentiality. Everybody needs to help in their own > way/means. Easy enough. Hard to help someone in need, if you don't know > that someone is in need. Dr :-) That's a two-way street. Hard to receive help if you won't seek out the proper channels that have been made available. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ You continue to make me smile. So, the next time I see you or your family broke down on the side of the road, I'll be sure to waive. When I see the lady, I'll tell her your suggestion... proper channels. Psst: your approach sounds familiar. I think the beginning of Scrooge sounds just about right; you; know proper channels, poor houses, the likes. Not your problem. But it is to me. Pardon if I don't take your advice. dr That's a two-way street. Hard to receive help if you won't seek out the proper channels that have been made available. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ In article <dwkWe.771$4T5.762@newssvr17.news.prodigy.com>, dr.news@better-price.biz.delete-the-obvious says... > Of course, I could have published her name/center/phone, but that is a > violation of her confidentiality. Everybody needs to help in their own > way/means. Easy enough. Hard to help someone in need, if you don't know > that someone is in need. Dr :-) > You continue to make me smile. So, the next time I see you or your family > broke down on the side of the road, I'll be sure to waive. When I see the > lady, I'll tell her your suggestion... proper channels. Being on the scene as a first responder is one thing... > Psst: your approach sounds familiar. I think the beginning of Scrooge > sounds just about right; you; know proper channels, poor houses, the likes. but otherwise, the best way to help is by making donations to reputable organizations like the Red Cross and Salvation Army. Let's not reinvent the wheel. SignatureJohn Richards John Richards: if you followed this from the beginning; that was the initial suggestion. After a few rants about the Red Cross, and some who had found a way to make a personal contribution, I got stalled on talking about this one person. Everyone decides what is important to them. In this case, this lady, (and the Red Cross agreed), wanted flexible communication, and being reachable. dr > Being on the scene as a first responder is one thing... > but otherwise, the best way to help is by making donations to reputable > organizations like the Red Cross and Salvation Army. Let's not reinvent > the wheel. >> You continue to make me smile. So, the next time I see you or your >> family >> broke down on the side of the road, I'll be sure to waive. When I see >> the >> lady, I'll tell her your suggestion... proper channels. You need to learn how to spell 'wave'...:-) >>> You continue to make me smile. So, the next time I see you or your >>> family [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > You need to learn how to spell 'wave'...:-) Please watch your attribution. There is nothing in the quoted text that is mine. SignatureJohn Richards > Please watch your attribution. There is nothing in the quoted > text that is mine. I'm very sorry. I would have sworn that I replied to his original message, but I see that I didn't! >You continue to make me smile. So, the next time I see you or your family >broke down on the side of the road, I'll be sure to waive. What are you going to waive? What were you failing to enforce? Waive: To give up (a claim or right) voluntarily; relinquish. See Synonyms at relinquish. To refrain from insisting on or enforcing (a rule or penalty, for example); dispense with: The original ban on private trading had long since been waived (William L. Schurz). To put aside or off temporarily; defer. You didn't perhaps mean: To signal or express by waving the hand or an object held in the hand: We waved goodbye. What would you be refraining from enforcing? - - > What are you going to waive? What were you failing to enforce? > [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > What would you be refraining from enforcing? > - > > You continue to make me smile. So, the next time I see you or your family > broke down on the side of the road, I'll be sure to waive. When I see the [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > sounds just about right; you; know proper channels, poor houses, the likes. > Not your problem. But it is to me. Pardon if I don't take your advice. dr You have an extraordinary amount of ability to wrongly "interpret" what's said to you. I strongly suspect there's a more... deliberate... term for what you're doing, but that doesn't alter that what I said, and what you claim it means, are two entirely different things. Scrooge was about being uninvolved. You haven't even *attempted* to determine whether that's the case here. You take umbrage that I didn't choose one particular person, and utterly disregard that I chose to provide aid in ways that help more than one person. You keep proving my initial impression every time you choose to "waive" your presence in this forum. SignatureRØß O/Siris -+- A thing moderately good is not so good as it ought to be. Moderation in temper is always a virtue, but moderation in principle is always a vice. +Thomas Paine, "The Rights of Man", 1792+ |
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