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Moto ROKR

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Phone Guy - 09 Sep 2005 20:46 GMT
Have any of you seen the new ROKR? I just got one and it is very cool!
RonInCal - 09 Sep 2005 21:14 GMT
> Have any of you seen the new ROKR? I just got one and it is very cool!

Ditto! It's working great for me thus far!
Trent Frist - 10 Sep 2005 00:50 GMT
Excerpts from a NYTimes review - #2 & #5 are the killers for me - maybe
they'll get it right next time!
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No, the Rokr doesn't have a click wheel; there wouldn't have been room
on this tiny device, 4.3 by 1.8 by 0.8 inches. Instead, it has a
five-way nubbin, much like the one on some Palm organizers. Nudging it
in any direction simulates the functions of the four iPod click-wheel
buttons. What you lose, of course, is the click wheel's ability to
cruise through long lists quickly.

No, the phone doesn't contain a hard drive. It comes with a tiny,
512-megabyte TransFlash memory card. Incredibly, though, you can only
store 100 songs on the phone, tops, no matter how much room is left on
the card. [...]

No, you can't download songs directly onto the phone. You must load
music onto the phone from your copy of iTunes 5.0, a sleek new version
of Apple's free jukebox software for Mac and Windows. [...]

No, you can't use songs as ring tones, at least not the songs you've
bought from Apple's music store. (You can use ordinary MP3 files as
ring tones, but loading them onto the phone isn't trivial.) [...]

No, the phone doesn't have a FireWire or U.S.B. 2.0 connector. It
connects to your Mac or PC with a U.S.B. 1.1 cable. Count on waiting 30
seconds for each song to transfer (compared with about 10 seconds for
each album on a regular iPod).
gtr - 28 Dec 2005 17:08 GMT
> Excerpts from a NYTimes review - #2 & #5 are the killers for me - maybe
> they'll get it right next time!

Well it is the first generation, a very poor time to buy into such
things.  But that's what we get for being ahead of the pack.

> No, the Rokr doesn't have a click wheel; there wouldn't have been room
> on this tiny device, 4.3 by 1.8 by 0.8 inches. Instead, it has a
> five-way nubbin, much like the one on some Palm organizers. Nudging it
> in any direction simulates the functions of the four iPod click-wheel
> buttons. What you lose, of course, is the click wheel's ability to
> cruise through long lists quickly.

One easily acclimates to this, say I.

> No, the phone doesn't contain a hard drive. It comes with a tiny,
> 512-megabyte TransFlash memory card. Incredibly, though, you can only
> store 100 songs on the phone, tops, no matter how much room is left on
> the card. [...]

100 songs are 512 meg in tunes is still 4 hours or something.  It works
for me. Some people use an iPod as a quasi-permanent storage mechanism
with all 500 of their albums. 8 full CD's is enough mp3's/language
courses/podcasts to cover my needs.

If your tunes (or podcats) are quite large you use all 512 meg easily
within the 100-item limitation, by the way.

> No, you can't download songs directly onto the phone. You must load
> music onto the phone from your copy of iTunes 5.0, a sleek new version
> of Apple's free jukebox software for Mac and Windows. [...]

I'm on a mac and so iTunes seems the best librarian for the mechanism
anyway.

> No, you can't use songs as ring tones, at least not the songs you've
> bought from Apple's music store. (You can use ordinary MP3 files as
> ring tones, but loading them onto the phone isn't trivial.) [...]

Depends on your thinkin of "trivial". It took me an hour or so to
figure it out.  NOW it's trivial.  I can also generate midi files as
ringtones, as well as sound-effects from various mp3's I have of horns
and dogs and cash-registers and such. It's fun.

They didn't mention, then the difficulties of bluetoothing jpegs to
your phone from your computer.  Which is more of a pain in the a.s, at
least for me. Again, as with the mp3's, on a Mac one has to lose
resource forks, and any extraneous embedded information: EXIF, ICC
profile or progressive JPEG processing.  I'm unsure which it was that I
needed to lose, but I ran it all through GraphicConverter on the Mac to
reframe, and such.  When I did, I needed to lose everything before
storing the jpeg to Bluetooth to my phone.

> No, the phone doesn't have a FireWire or U.S.B. 2.0 connector. It
> connects to your Mac or PC with a U.S.B. 1.1 cable. Count on waiting 30
> seconds for each song to transfer (compared with about 10 seconds for
> each album on a regular iPod).

Oh the inconveniences of modern technology. You could be forced to scan
the headlinesin the paper during the excess time!  Or eat lunch!  :-)

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