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Cingular GSM Coverage in Chicago

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B Bell - 09 Sep 2003 04:07 GMT
A friend of mine got a nice new phone (from AT & T) the other day, so I
thought I would check into a new phone for my plan, which is Cingular.
I have no desire to switch companies until I can keep my phone number
(crosses fingers for November).  So the Cingular rep talked me into
getting a GSM only phone, saying they will be all GSM by the end of the
year.  I left the store with visions of clear phone reception.  But to
my dismay, the reception is no better than my old digital.  In fact, its
probably worse.  So luckily I have a three day trial period.

Has anyone had any good or bad experiences with the GSM phones in
Chicago?  I don't want to rush into taking it back, but I don't think
its any better, in fact its probably worse.  Since the phone will ONLY
work on GSM, it won't work in remote areas.  I've traveled to some
remote areas, and have always had a signal on my digital phone.
Chris Russell - 09 Sep 2003 04:32 GMT
Take it back and get a GAIT phone.  Usuable on Superhome and
National(not GSM)Plans.  If data is important get the S-E t62u, if not
get the Nokia 6340i.  With either you will have nationwide service on
800/1900 TDMA (your old digital phone), 850(800)/1900 GSM (your new and
almost useless GSM phone) and AMPS (analog for out in the sticks).  I've
ben through Chicago with my 6340i and mostly picked up TDMA, that's why
your GSM experience has been bad.  Here in the east side of Detroit, my
phone usually picks up TDMA and yesterday going all over the Detroit
area, it only picked up TDMA (only GSM was on ATTWS by my apartment-then
went back to Cingular AMPS-poor signal area-NIMBY)

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B Bell <brianbell98@yahoo.com> wrote in article
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> A friend of mine got a nice new phone (from AT & T) the other day, so I
> thought I would check into a new phone for my plan, which is Cingular.
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> work on GSM, it won't work in remote areas.  I've traveled to some
> remote areas, and have always had a signal on my digital phone.
B Bell - 09 Sep 2003 04:52 GMT
I think I will just reactivate my 3360, it worked just as well, and is
smaller than the 6340i, unless you think the 6340i might give me better
reception.  Also, the 6340i is about the only phone with a normal
keypad.

Any comparisons between the 3360 and the 6340i?

> Take it back and get a GAIT phone.  Usuable on Superhome and
> National(not GSM)Plans.  If data is important get the S-E t62u, if not
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Chris Russell - 09 Sep 2003 13:13 GMT
I know that  the 6340i has just about the best reception even though it
has an internal antenna.  You'll find that it really isn't that big and
the phone is even easy to dial with your thumb on the larger keys.

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B Bell <brianbell98@yahoo.com> wrote in article
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> I think I will just reactivate my 3360, it worked just as well, and is
> smaller than the 6340i, unless you think the 6340i might give me better
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> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
Mark W. Oots - 09 Sep 2003 23:39 GMT
The point of GSM isn't to improve reception. It's to increase capacity of
the network. The Chicago GSM system uses the same towers as the TDMA network
and GSM is a form of TDMA so the reception is about the same. If you want a
cute phone with color and lots of complex downloadable stuff, get GSM, if
phone calls are all you need, go back to your TDMA (3360). If you don't
travel by car, GSM coverage is not bad in major metro-areas. If you drive
through N Dakota, a GSM phone is a paperweight....

Mark

> I think I will just reactivate my 3360, it worked just as well, and is
> smaller than the 6340i, unless you think the 6340i might give me better
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Steve - 11 Sep 2003 01:18 GMT
A friend of mine in Chicago is having horrible service with Cingular's TDMA
system in Chicago.  He was also thinking of switching to GSM; however, it
seems most are saying the service is the same?  He is finding Cingular
virtually unusable in the Chicago area.

> The point of GSM isn't to improve reception. It's to increase capacity of
> the network. The Chicago GSM system uses the same towers as the TDMA network
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B Bell - 11 Sep 2003 03:55 GMT
I wouldn't say it is unusable, but there are definitey spotty areas
where the reception is bad, and they know it, and don't do anything
about it.

> A friend of mine in Chicago is having horrible service with Cingular's TDMA
> system in Chicago.  He was also thinking of switching to GSM; however, it
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About Dakota - 11 Sep 2003 07:03 GMT
It depends on what plan you're on.  I am on Cingular Preferred Nation,
and I have great coverage in the Chicago area, although often it is
roaming on AT&T...but it's free roaming so it doesn't matter to me.  You
would probably get slightly better coverage with a TDMA plan as you can
fall back on AMPS if necessary, but it all depends on your calling
habits.  If coverage is that important to you, I would go on a Cingular
Nation plan (with a GAIT phone, both the Nokia 6340i and SE T62u are
available to you).  They have a good $55 plan that includes 500 anytime
minutes with rollover, and 5000 n/w minutes, and they will honor n/w
minutes anywhere in your roaming area (at least that's how it is on
Preferred Nation).

> A friend of mine in Chicago is having horrible service with Cingular's TDMA
> system in Chicago.  He was also thinking of switching to GSM; however, it
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About Dakota - 11 Sep 2003 07:06 GMT
> The point of GSM isn't to improve reception. It's to increase capacity of
> the network. The Chicago GSM system uses the same towers as the TDMA network
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> travel by car, GSM coverage is not bad in major metro-areas. If you drive
> through N Dakota, a GSM phone is a paperweight....

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Not all true.  When you are withing 40 miles from Canada, you get GREAT
coverage from the Canadian providers, even better than from the native
North Dakota coverage on those areas (especially north of Minot and
Williston).  I know there is some GSM coverage there, and also in
Fargo/Frand Forks, and soon the Extend America (powered by Nextel)
network will be running, which will provide GSM to North Dakota, South
Dakota, Montana, Wyoming, and Nebraska when it's finished.

> Mark
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ex_cathedra - 17 Sep 2003 12:23 GMT
> I think I will just reactivate my 3360, it worked just as well, and is
> smaller than the 6340i, unless you think the 6340i might give me better
> reception.  Also, the 6340i is about the only phone with a normal
> keypad.
>
> Any comparisons between the 3360 and the 6340i?

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Mark A. Smith - 17 Sep 2003 13:52 GMT
From my experience, the 6340i has better reception than the 3360.

Have a good one,

Mark A. Smith

> > I think I will just reactivate my 3360, it worked just as well, and is
> > smaller than the 6340i, unless you think the 6340i might give me better
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> effects is being scaled down, due to industry pressure.
> http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=443248
ex_cathedra - 20 Sep 2003 06:45 GMT
> From my experience, the 6340i has better reception than the 3360.
>
> Have a good one,
>
> Mark A. Smith

Oh...in that case.
It's worth it !

> > B Bell <brianbell98@yahoo.com> wrote in message
>  news:<3F5D4E98.39791881@yahoo.com>...
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> > effects is being scaled down, due to industry pressure.
> > http://news.independent.co.uk/world/science_medical/story.jsp?story=443248
 
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