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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / September 2005Need high-speed Internet via cellphone
Hello gurus, After reading the newsgroups and Google I'm still somewhat confused about the current hardware needed to get high-speed wireless access to the Internet via a cell phone tethered to a laptop. I would like access speed of at least 144 kbps and have decided to go with EDGE technology if it is available as part of Cingular's MediaWorks plan (at about $20./month). I understand that to get that plan one must also use one their cellular phone plans. I already have the AT&T GoPhone plan but from what I've learned, it is not compatible with the Cingular MediaWorks plan. Apparently I'll have to purchase an EDGE cellular phone and find a compatible calling plan. Does Cingular offer a pay-as-you-go plan that uses an EDGE phone? What type of EDGE hardware or phone gets the best speed? Which high-speed EDGE phone is the least expensive? I've also read that an alternative way of getting cellular Internet access is by purchasing an EDGE PCMCIA card, but that will be a cost of about $80./month that's in addition to my cellular calling plan and the cost of the card. Would Bluetooth technology be of any use here? Can someone suggest the best combination of Internet access speed and cell phone plan costs? Any help appreciated. Thanks. I use the EDGE PCMCIA card myself. I do know that you need to check what class of service the EDGE phone or card uses to get the fastest data speeds. The higher the class, the better. My Sony Ericsson GC83 card is a class 10 EDGE device. The Sierra Wireless 775 Aircard is a class 12. As I understand it (it's been awhile since I read this), a class 10 device uses 10 slots (channels) - some for sending, and others for receiving. A class 12 device uses 12 slots (channels). If you are buying a phone, check to see what the class rating is. Note that unless you get unlimited service, you will be very limited in how much you can use the service for normal web browsing, as it will end up being prohibitively expensive. Data transferred accumulates quite rapidly, and the cost per megabyte adds up. I have the Laptop Connect unlimited plan for $80/month. I haven't really looked into it, but bluetooth should work. It will consume the batteries faster in the cell phone and laptop however. Infrared is another option. Tethering is probably the best for battery life if you don't want to use a PC card. It really depends however on how long you will be using the service at each sitting, if battery life is really going to be a factor. > Note that unless you get unlimited service, you will be very limited in > how much you can use the service for normal web browsing, as it will > end up being prohibitively expensive. Data transferred accumulates > quite rapidly, and the cost per megabyte adds up. I have the Laptop > Connect unlimited plan for $80/month. Though I've been told here that MediaWorks works, my phone doesn't seem to agree with that. So on a recent trip I had to sign up for DataConnect. Foolishly thinking I didn't need much I signed up for 5MB. Performance was awful - about 19200 baud - but just a few days checking web mail amounted to 13.9MB for an overage charge of $70. YMMV >> Note that unless you get unlimited service, you will be very limited in >> how much you can use the service for normal web browsing, as it will >> end up being prohibitively expensive. Data transferred accumulates >> quite rapidly, and the cost per megabyte adds up. I have the Laptop >> Connect unlimited plan for $80/month. > Though I've been told here that MediaWorks works, It does (MEdia Net that is). >my phone doesn't seem >to agree with that. May not have been configured properly, or your account may not have been provisioned properly. >So on a recent trip I had to sign up for DataConnect. >Foolishly thinking I didn't need much I signed up for 5MB. Performance >was awful - about 19200 baud - Sounds like you were using CSD (9600 bps) rather than GPRS (up to about 50 Kbps). >but just a few days checking web mail >amounted to 13.9MB for an overage charge of $70. YMMV That's why I use and recommend MEdia Net Unlimited.  SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > >So on a recent trip I had to sign up for DataConnect. > >Foolishly thinking I didn't need much I signed up for 5MB. Performance > >was awful - about 19200 baud - > > Sounds like you were using CSD (9600 bps) rather than GPRS (up to about 50 > Kbps). The bill has, for instance, an entry at 10:55 am during which 1,511 KB were transmitted. The next entry is at 11:09am, same day. So it must have transmitted 1,511 KB in the intervening 840 seconds, which is about 18 Kbaud, not 9.6 Kbaud and not 50 Kbaud. Since that was checking webmail I doubt it was using 9.6 Kbaud simultaneously up and down. >> >So on a recent trip I had to sign up for DataConnect. >> >Foolishly thinking I didn't need much I signed up for 5MB. Performance [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >18 Kbaud, not 9.6 Kbaud and not 50 Kbaud. Since that was checking webmail >I doubt it was using 9.6 Kbaud simultaneously up and down. I think you're reading too much into those entries. Measure the actual speed. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > I use the EDGE PCMCIA card myself. I do know that you need to check > what class of service the EDGE phone or card uses to get the fastest [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > how long you will be using the service at each sitting, if battery life > is really going to be a factor. actually the class has nothing to do with how fast the device is because i believe cingular tops out at class 8 speeds. you dont really need to pay the 80$ a month unlimited internet unless you have to have an outside IP address. I.E. you need to log into a server that has to have a firewall set up. the 40$ month unlimited PDA plan should work just fine with any edge capable cards. if your looking for data only and NO voice, i would suggest going with T-mobile.. they have a good unlimited internet with an edge card for 30$ a month. > the 40$ month unlimited PDA plan should work just fine with any edge capable > cards. Wouldn't $20 unlimited MediaNet work fine too? Are there any restrictions? Thanks. SignatureDG NJ I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out. >> the 40$ month unlimited PDA plan should work just fine with any edge capable >> cards. > >Wouldn't $20 unlimited MediaNet work fine too? Are there any restrictions? > >Thanks. > I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful > with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet > for free. It was a life saver when my Cable modem would go out. Hm... Really? I have MediaNet unlimited an have no issues using it with my laptop via SE S710a... Web and IMAP/SMTP work fine. I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor excessive use and close many ports... SignatureDG NJ >> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful >> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor >excessive use and close many ports... I've seen no evidence of monitoring for "excessive use" (and I sometimes have had very high usage), and the only port issue I've encountered is VPN (no problem with SSH). SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> Hi! > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > had very high usage), and the only port issue I've encountered is VPN (no > problem with SSH). Thank you for clarification. I have no prob with VPN not working and I'd say SSH is sometimes better for me... SignatureDG NJ >> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful >> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor >excessive use and close many ports... Thanks to everyone who replied. Like the poster above, I'd like some closure to my original concern: Is MediaNet (or MediaWorks) an unlimited account that can be tethered? If so, what type of cell phone is required with it? Wouldn't tethering a cell phone be cheaper than using a PCMCIA card? Thanks again. >>> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful >>> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >closure to my original concern: Is MediaNet (or MediaWorks) an >unlimited account that can be tethered? As I wrote: It's not supported by Cingular, but isn't prohibited and does work. >If so, what type of cell phone >is required with it? Any data capable phone. Speed will depend on the Class of GPRS and EGPRS(EDGE), which may well differ. Get Class 10 or 12 EGPRS(EDGE) for the best possible speed. (The difference between Class 10 and 12 is that the latter has higher upload speed potential -- download is the same.) >Wouldn't tethering a cell phone be cheaper than >using a PCMCIA card? Not necessarily. Sony Ericsson GC82 PC Cards are going on eBay for only about $30 (including shipping); e.g., http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=6804206459 SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful >> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >I thought, there are some other restrictions, like they monitor >excessive use and close many ports... I just checked the Cingular website. It appears that MediaNet is no longer offered with the unlimited option, but by the kilobyte. >>> I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. This is awful >>> with Cingular. Using Verizon I could connect direct to the internet [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >I just checked the Cingular website. It appears that MediaNet is no >longer offered with the unlimited option, but by the kilobyte. Here in Northern California at least, <https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase> still shows "MEdia Net Unlimited" at "$19.99 per month". SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > <https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase> still shows "MEdia Net > Unlimited" at "$19.99 per month". I just upgraded from a 1MB plan to unlimited. >I don't think media net will allow laptop tethering. ... It's not supported by Cingular, but isn't prohibited and does work. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >> the 40$ month unlimited PDA plan should work just fine with any edge capable >> cards. > >Wouldn't $20 unlimited MediaNet work fine too? Yes. >Are there any restrictions? 1. No support for tethered devices -- you're on your own. 2. Some services (e.g., VPN) won't work. (Most services do work fine.) 3. No Data Acceleration (primarily lossy image compression, available on more expensive Data Connect service). SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> I beg to differ. See PC Magazine article (dated 3/2/05) below: http://www.pcmag.com/article2/0,1759,1770749,00.asp The following is quoted from the above article: "There are 12 classes of EDGE devices, based on the number of time slots they can use; higher classes offer faster data transfer. The most advanced EDGE phones currently use Class 10, with four downloading slots and two uploading slots. And though Class 10's theoretical maximum speed is 236 Kbps, we maxed out at 220 Kbps during testing." >the 40$ month unlimited PDA plan should work just fine with any edge capable >cards. The $20/month MEdia Net Unlimited option works just fine with EDGE-capable handsets (including tethered use of a computer) and PC Cards. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The $20/month MEdia Net Unlimited option works just fine with EDGE-capable > handsets (including tethered use of a computer) and PC Cards. I think that, for many of us, we just worry that since they don't explicitly authorize tethering, and also have pricy laptop plans also available, that they may decide to charge at an inconvenient time, such as 29 days and 100mb into the month. They haven't yet, for me, with my PDA tethering, with one month over 30MB used. It also doesn't help that they keep on breaking their web page. Went today to check usage for the current month as of the 16th, and it posted that due to account changes, they couldn't give data usage. What account change? >I think that, for many of us, we just worry that since they don't >explicitly authorize tethering, and also have pricy laptop plans also >available, that they may decide to charge at an inconvenient time, >such as 29 days and 100mb into the month. I don't think there's any real worry or risk of that, because there's nothing in the Service Agreement that would make it possible, as you should see if you study it carefully. Unlimited is quite simply unlimited. I've had a number of months were Cingular incorrectly charged me for data, and all have been corrected -- in over a year of heavy use, I've never had to pay more than $20/month for data. >They haven't yet, for me, with my PDA tethering, with one month over >30MB used. I've had months with literally hundreds of megabytes. >It also doesn't help that they keep on breaking their web page. Went >today to check usage for the current month as of the 16th, and it >posted that due to account changes, they couldn't give data usage. >What account change? My guess is ongoing maintenance as subscribers are migrated to common backend systems. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >I use the EDGE PCMCIA card myself. I do know that you need to check >what class of service the EDGE phone or card uses to get the fastest [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >for receiving. A class 12 device uses 12 slots (channels). If you are >buying a phone, check to see what the class rating is. Multislot Class Downlink Slots Uplink Slots Active Slots --------------- -------------- ------------ ------------ 1 1 1 2 2 2 1 3 3 2 2 3 4 3 1 4 5 2 2 4 6 3 2 4 7 3 3 4 8 4 1 5 9 3 2 5 10 4 2 5 11 4 3 5 12 4 4 5 SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >After reading the newsgroups and Google I'm still somewhat confused >about the current hardware needed to get high-speed wireless access to >the Internet via a cell phone tethered to a laptop. Either a handset or a PC card will work. >I would like access speed of at least 144 kbps and have decided to go >with EDGE technology if it is available as part of Cingular's >MediaWorks plan (at about $20./month). EGPRS(EDGE) can meet that speed requirement, but only with Class 10 or 12 devices, and only in good signal areas. The option is actually "MEdia Net Unlimited". >I understand that to get that >plan one must also use one their cellular phone plans. I already have >the AT&T GoPhone plan but from what I've learned, it is not compatible >with the Cingular MediaWorks plan. Apparently I'll have to purchase an >EDGE cellular phone and find a compatible calling plan. Correct on all these points. >Does Cingular >offer a pay-as-you-go plan that uses an EDGE phone? No. >What type of EDGE >hardware or phone gets the best speed? Class 10 or 12. >Which high-speed EDGE phone is >the least expensive? Used PC Card (e.g., Sony Ericsson GC82) on eBay. >I've also read that an alternative way of getting cellular Internet >access is by purchasing an EDGE PCMCIA card, but that will be a cost >of about $80./month that's in addition to my cellular calling plan and >the cost of the card. "MEdia Net Unlimited" for $20/month will work on a PC Card. Subscribe to SIM-only service (1 year plan) and buy your own PC Card. >Would Bluetooth technology be of any use here? Sure -- that's how I connect my notebook computer to my Motorola V551 (EGPRS/EDGE Class 4, about 100 Kbps versus 150 Kbps for my PC Card). >Can someone suggest the best combination of Internet access speed and >cell phone plan costs? Any help appreciated. Thanks. Cheapest voice plan plus "MEdia Net Unlimited" with a Class 10 or 12 EGPRS(EDGE) device. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >>After reading the newsgroups and Google I'm still somewhat confused >>about the current hardware needed to get high-speed wireless access to >>the Internet via a cell phone tethered to a laptop. I saw "tether" used for USB, as separate from Bluetooth, earlier in this thread. I don't think that is correct. A PC or PDA connected to the cellphone would be considered tethered regardless of how it is connected. > Either a handset or a PC card will work. I have used a Motorola V220 with USB, and a Motorola V551 with Bluetooth. >>MediaWorks plan (at about $20./month). > The option is actually "MEdia Net Unlimited". https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase MediaWorks includes some messaging. MediaNet is only data, no messaging. MediaWorks used to have an unlimited data option. That is now 5MB. It would seem that the best current plan is MediaNet unlimited and pay-as-you-go-messaging. If you sign up before September 24th, MediaNet 1MB would include unlimited data for one month. I added MediaNet unlimited to MediaBasic via the web, and the MediaNet was canceled. When I called, they said I could only have one of the plans. The default connection for the Cingular Connection Manager and the Mobile Phone Tools GPRS connection is to use a login that is only available with the Data Connect products (advertised on the business pages only). The MediaNet or MediaWorks plan uses a different login. A phone from Cingular is already set up for this GPRS "WAP" login. You can follow along, seeing the configuration for this, in a Cingular tutorial. http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/phones_devices Select a manufacturer and model, like Motorola-V551 Category MediaNet - Tutorial Access Media Net. Scroll down to the GPRS settings. These values need to be transferred to the login setup on your PC. This typically appears as a modem under network connections. John also has these login values on his page, referenced in his signature. The instructions there are categorized by different phones, but the information is there. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 > John also has these login values on his page, referenced in his signature. > The instructions there are categorized by different phones, but the > information is there. Here is a link to the information, John has on his website: <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm> I use MediaNet with a V400, USB cable and Motorola's phone tools. As long as your phone is identified as a modem by Windows (assuming you are using Windows) the setup given on, John's site works. MediaWorks not MediaNet. Sorry. >> John also has these login values on his page, referenced in his >> signature. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > as your phone is identified as a modem by Windows (assuming you are using > Windows) the setup given on, John's site works. Actually both/either. >MediaWorks not MediaNet. Sorry. > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] >> as your phone is identified as a modem by Windows (assuming you are using >> Windows) the setup given on, John's site works. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > seeing the configuration for this, in a Cingular tutorial. > http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/phones_devices Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular tutorial does not list the Nokia 6200. It did work when I bought it. >> seeing the configuration for this, in a Cingular tutorial. >> http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/phones_devices > Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web >and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular >tutorial does not list the Nokia 6200. It did work when I bought it. The first step in troubleshooting is getting the WAP browser (and/or email client) to work over GPRS. If that's not working, contact Customer Care and/or take the handset in to a Cingular store. Once that's working, all that's needed in Windows Dial-Up Networking is a modem entry for the handset and the correct settings from my <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > > Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web > >and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > and the correct settings from my > <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/tech/cingular/media.htm>. I just went and checked again (Northern California). The WAP browser works - I navigated to the point it wanted $2.99 for a traffic report, then quit. The settings in the Windows XP "modem over IR" are as per your web site except that the highest baud rate selection was 115 K (and of course this is a Nokia 6200, not Sony Ericsson). Attempting to log in, the phone showed activity, then said I needed to subscribe to GPRS first. The laptop said Error 743 [IIRC] PPP link terminated. A couple of months ago when I tried this (in Southern California) I wound up with a second level tech rep who led me through checking all the settings on the phone and laptop, then said "oops, our network is down, but it should work, try again later." It didn't. Again a couple of weeks ago I tried (Michigan), but this time the rep said "you can't do that with your "MediaNet Pay per Use, includes Data Detailed Billing and Internet Express", you have to sign up for DataConnect". So I did, and it worked - slowly and expensively. So here is at least one case where MediaNet Does Not Work. >> > Interesting. I've tried all the suggestions here and on the web >> >and my phone will not do GPRS on MediaNet. Now I note that Cingular [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] >slowly and expensively. So here is at least one case where MediaNet Does >Not Work. Correction: Did not work. I'm pretty sure that it could have been made to work with the right settings. The problem with MEdia Net is that you're on you're own, since tethered use isn't supported. Regardless, Data Connect GPRS should be much faster than CSD. If not, lean on Cingular. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >>Attempting to log in, the phone showed activity, then said I needed to >>subscribe to GPRS first. The laptop said Error 743 [IIRC] PPP link [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > GPRS > should be much faster than CSD. If not, lean on Cingular. Very odd. Yesterday I was as happy as could be, because my phone connected to the internet as a tethered modem via Cingular. I have just connected my phone to the PC via the USB cable and low and behold I get 'Error 734 The PPP link control protocol was terminated'. If I was being a little paranoid I would suspect that someone is monitoring this group and disabling user accounts for tethered data access. If anyone has an explanation as to why I might get a 734 error I would be interested to hear it. Signal strength seems to be good. Maybe so. See following copied from the Sony Ericsson GC8x User Guide regarding Error 734: "The APN entry is incorrect, the signal is weak or the connection is lost while dialing. If you are experiencing problems contact your network operator and check the APN." > Maybe so. See following copied from the Sony Ericsson GC8x User Guide > regarding Error 734: [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > If you are experiencing problems contact your network > operator and check the APN." Thanks for the suggestion. It made me plug the phone in again. The good news is the phone started working again :-) Maybe the network was down. I installed the Cingular Communications Manager on another PC, to see what it is like and the signal meter on it's display gives a reading of -59dBm. Not sure how accurate the measurement is, but I don't think signal strength was the issue. Well fingers crossed and lets hope everything keeps working. Same here, when I was being charged per kb. it worked, signed up for unlimited media net, error 734. Guess no cheap internet! > Same here, when I was being charged per kb. it worked, signed up for > unlimited media net, error 734. > Guess no cheap internet! That's interesting. You were enabled for Laptop Connect, pay as you go, and then when MediaNet was enabled, you were disabled from inadvertently using Laptop Connect. Are you using a card or a tethered phone? How were you enabled for Laptop Connect originally? How did you sign up for MediaNet? Did you change the login you were using in the "dialup modem"? ISP@Cingular would be Laptop Connect, WAP@Cingular would be MediaNet. The details are earlier in this thread. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 > You were enabled for Laptop Connect, pay as you go, > and then when MediaNet was enabled, you were disabled ... I had Media Net Pay Per Use, added Data Connect, dropped Data Connect, and the phone no longer showed a "G" for GPRS service. I called and they said they re-enabled GPRS and the G would show up next time my phone was in range. Didn't happen. Since cell phone companies treat their customers somewhat worse than airlines do, perhaps they should take a cue and make money by selling "First Class" service - ie, decent service at a high price. My time on hold, getting false information, trying to get something to work right, etc, is worth something to me. >> You were enabled for Laptop Connect, pay as you go, >> and then when MediaNet was enabled, you were disabled ... > I had Media Net Pay Per Use, added Data Connect, dropped Data > Connect, and the phone no longer showed a "G" for GPRS service. The GPRS should have remained. That shows up for either MediaNet or DataConnect. > I called and they said they re-enabled GPRS and the G would show > up next time my phone was in range. Didn't happen. Maybe you could do it yourself from the Cingular page https://secure.mouse2mobile.com/clients/newcingular/ota/configuredevice.asp and then follow the steps to connect to WAP@cingular noted in this thread. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 >> You were enabled for Laptop Connect, pay as you go, >> and then when MediaNet was enabled, you were disabled ... > I had Media Net Pay Per Use, added Data Connect, dropped Data >Connect, and the phone no longer showed a "G" for GPRS service. >I called and they said they re-enabled GPRS and the G would show >up next time my phone was in range. Didn't happen. They screwed up. Keep calling back until GPRS is working. > Since cell phone companies treat their customers somewhat worse >than airlines do, perhaps they should take a cue and make money by >selling "First Class" service - ie, decent service at a high price. >My time on hold, getting false information, trying to get something >to work right, etc, is worth something to me. They tried that, and it didn't fly -- the vast majority of the market wants the cheapest possible price. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> Got it working used motos phone tools to set up dialing so I could change Primary APN ISP.cingular.com to WAP.cingular.com and less than 4 bars no conection. Speed test show connection at 43 kb 3 better than the phone line ! Thanks John,Dave and every one else. Randy > Same here, when I was being charged per kb. it worked, signed up for >unlimited media net, error 734. > Guess no cheap internet! Cheap Internet *is* possible with care and persistence: * Recheck your configuration * Verify that your handset can connect with GPRS * Try again SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> >>>After reading the newsgroups and Google I'm still somewhat confused >>>about the current hardware needed to get high-speed wireless access to [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >thread. I don't think that is correct. A PC or PDA connected to the >cellphone would be considered tethered regardless of how it is connected. Correct. >>>MediaWorks plan (at about $20./month). >> The option is actually "MEdia Net Unlimited". [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] >It would seem that the best current plan is MediaNet unlimited and >pay-as-you-go-messaging. >I added MediaNet unlimited to MediaBasic via the web, and the MediaNet was >canceled. When I called, they said I could only have one of the plans. Messaging packages are at: <http://www.cingular.com/media/text_messaging_purchase> <http://www.cingular.com/media/multimedia_messaging_purchase> >The default connection for the Cingular Connection Manager and the Mobile >Phone Tools GPRS connection is to use a login that is only available with >the Data Connect products (advertised on the business pages only). Why use Cingular Connection Manager or Mobile Phone Tools when all you need is Windows Dial-Up Networking? SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > Why use Cingular Connection Manager or Mobile Phone Tools when all you > need is Windows Dial-Up Networking? WindowsXP-SP2 did install a modem driver for my v551 Bluetooth. WindowsXP-SP2 did not install a modem driver for my v220 USB. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 >> Why use Cingular Connection Manager or Mobile Phone Tools when all you >> need is Windows Dial-Up Networking? > >WindowsXP-SP2 did install a modem driver for my v551 Bluetooth. >WindowsXP-SP2 did not install a modem driver for my v220 USB. If the phone supports the Dial-Up Networking Profile, that should appear in Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices -> [select device] -> Properties -> Services. Make sure the option is checked, which should create a Standard Bluetooth Modem on the indicated COM port. Alternatively, the phone may support COM ports, as configured in the COM Ports tab of Bluetooth Devices. I've also heard that installing Cingular's Connection Manager <http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr> will install drivers for supported phones. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > If the phone supports the Dial-Up Networking Profile, that should appear in > Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices -> [select device] -> Properties -> The question was about USB. Bluetooth does work with WinXP. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 >> If the phone supports the Dial-Up Networking Profile, that should appear in >> Control Panel -> Bluetooth Devices -> [select device] -> Properties -> > >The question was about USB. Bluetooth does work with WinXP. USB drivers should be included in USB software. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > > USB drivers should be included in USB software. If you don't have USB drivers for your phone, download and install the Cingular connection manager. I did and it had the frivers for my V400. Worth a try, as it is free. > If you don't have USB drivers for your phone, download and install the > Cingular connection manager. I did and it had the frivers for my V400. > Worth a try, as it is free. I said that earlier, but John says the native WinXP drivers work. They didn't for me. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 >> If you don't have USB drivers for your phone, download and install the >> Cingular connection manager. I did and it had the frivers for my V400. >> Worth a try, as it is free. > >I said that earlier, but John says the native WinXP drivers work. >They didn't for me. My comment was about Bluetooth, not USB. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular> |
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