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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / December 200511 Month Rollover
"Rollover Minutes are unused, accumulated, Anytime minutes that roll over from month to month for up to 12 months. Minutes that roll over are not redeemable for cash or credits." (copied off Cingular web page) As confirmed by 2 Cingular customer service reps, the month in which you accumulate rollover minutes is the 1ST month of their rollover year which, of course, allows one only 11 months of potential usage !!!!!!! > "Rollover Minutes are unused, accumulated, Anytime minutes that roll > over from month to month for up to 12 months. Minutes that roll over [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > you accumulate rollover minutes is the 1ST month of their rollover year > which, of course, allows one only 11 months of potential usage !!!!!!! Does it really matter? Are you out of rollover minutes? .. bamp Just lost 102 minutes - rollover=prepaid to me its likie losing a gift card......... > Just lost 102 minutes - rollover=prepaid > to me its likie losing a gift card......... but you gain the minutes you didnt use.. if you have rollover minutes from a year ago, then you wont use them anyway.. >"Rollover Minutes are unused, accumulated, Anytime minutes that roll >over from month to month for up to 12 months. Minutes that roll over [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >you accumulate rollover minutes is the 1ST month of their rollover year >which, of course, allows one only 11 months of potential usage !!!!!!! Not true. <http://onlinestored.cingular.com/webapp/wcs/stores/servlet/ES_AUX_PLAN_TERMS.jsp>: Rollover Minutes: Rollover Minutes accumulate and expire through 12 rolling bill periods. Bill Period 1 (activation) unused Anytime Minutes will not carry over. Bill Period 2 unused Anytime Minutes will begin to carry over. Rollover Minutes accumulated starting with Bill Period 2 will expire each bill period as they reach a 12 bill period age. Rollover Minutes will also expire immediately upon default or if customer changes to a non-Rollover plan. Rollover Minutes are not redeemable for cash or credit and are not transferable. Night and Weekend and Mobile to Mobile minutes do not carry over.  SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> and if you primarily use Family Plan cellular to cellular no minutes are used ergo, we have over 4000 minutes! I cant complain about that, what we dont use well use, but we will accrue rollover minutes before we know it! marx404 "as they reach a 12 bill period age." Assume 1.I enter January without any rollover minutes 2.January is not my activation month 3.Billing period ends on 30th of month If I rollover 10 minutes at the end of January, I'm saying that they will expire on my DECEMBER 30th billing - allowing me only 11 months of rollover... Are you saying that the 10 minutes will expire on the following January's billing?? It's been that way for years, what's your point? Watashi.wa.ichiban Wrote: > "as they reach a 12 bill period age." > Assume 1.I enter January without any rollover minutes [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > Are you saying that the 10 minutes will expire on the following > January's billing? Negative - when looking at the Dec 30th billing - they'll be gone........... quick tip - use them before they expire! They started the 12 month exp to put an end to the huge number of people who took advantage of th loop hole thats existed with the original rollover setup. Until couple of years ago rollover minutes never expired. BUt you could als change plans as often as you wanted. So people would change to a muc larger minute plan than they would ever use in a month so they coul build up rollover minutes quickly. Then after 2 months when you hav plenty of rollover saved up they would change back to the el-chepo pla and live off of those minutes for 6 months. So now they put an end t that! They not only expire in 12 months, but if you change to a lowe plan that comes with less rollover minutes that you have saved up, yo loose the difference. So if you have 2000 rollover min and you want t change to a cheaper plan, but it only comes with 1000 rm's, you loos your other 1000 minutes. That will put a stop to them building u minutes and then switching back! Watashi.wa.ichiban Wrote: > Negative - when looking at the Dec 30th billing - they'll be > gone.......... >quick tip - use them before they expire! They started the 12 month exp. >to put an end to the huge number of people who took advantage of the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >your other 1000 minutes. That will put a stop to them building up >minutes and then switching back! I don't think Cingular can legally change the terms like that retroactively, and I'm pretty confident it would back down if challenged. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> They can change whatever they want whenever they want. You don't hav rollover minutes that don't expire now do you? John Navas Wrote: > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] > John Navas > <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ >They can change whatever they want whenever they want. ... Not without warning and without allowing you to cancel without penalty if you don't accept the change. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > >They can change whatever they want whenever they want. ... > > Not without warning and without allowing you to cancel without penalty if you > don't accept the change. "By paying your bill, you agree to these changes in terms." Don't you read the crap they put in the envelope? >> >They can change whatever they want whenever they want. ... >> [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >Don't you read the crap they put in the envelope? 1. I don't get a paper bill. 2. What the Service Agreement actually says (in part): In the event that we make such a change that has a material adverse impact (or other standard as may be required by law) on your rights or use of the Service, you may terminate the Agreement as described in the notice we provide, and you will not be charged any cancellation fee. ... Any change will take effect by your next billing cycle, and your continued use of the Service will be deemed to constitute your express consent to the changes. We may send you notices by mail or electronic means, in our sole discretion. Notices to you shall be effective 1) 3 days following the date deposited in the U.S. Mail or delivered to a nationally recognized courier or delivery service to your address as kept in our files and/or 2) immediately upon our transmission using an electronic means such as e-mail or text messaging service. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> In article <qyhlf.233988$zb5.177806@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, > >> >They can change whatever they want whenever they want. ... > >> [quoted text clipped - 23 lines] > immediately upon our transmission using an electronic means such as e-mail > or text messaging service. So: the change is effective immediately, as per the above paragraph. So it's up to you to notice it and take action to stop it. >In article ><qyhlf.233988$zb5.177806@bgtnsc04-news.ops.worldnet.att.net>, [quoted text clipped - 30 lines] > >So it's up to you to notice it and take action to stop it. You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. SignatureBest regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > >> 2. What the Service Agreement actually says (in part): > >> [quoted text clipped - 25 lines] > > You obviously have a reading comprehension problem. John, the ONLY person in this newsgroup who has a reading comprehension problem is you. >>>> 2. What the Service Agreement actually says (in part): >>>> [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > John, the ONLY person in this newsgroup who has a reading comprehension > problem is you. What's the big deal here? Technically it is 11 months not 12 months. As far as the option to terminate without charge, one thing that seems unfair is that you're stuck with the equipment you bought, often locked to your carrier, because they changed the terms on you. |
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