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I C E numbers in a cell phone

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dold@XIXCXEXnum.usenet.us.com - 17 Dec 2005 23:14 GMT
I read about "In Case of Emergency" numbers being a good idea in a cell
phone.  Some first responder, maybe alerted by a label on the phone of ICE,
could look under ICE in the directory, and find an appropriate number to
call.

I added I C E to my phone, with a copy to my SIM.
The phone, in case I'm using a foreign SIM.
The SIM because experience shows that it will survive water immersion.

"The LAFD talks about ICE"
http://lafd.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_lafd_archive.html#112301093763723668

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Bob Walker - 18 Dec 2005 00:15 GMT
>I read about "In Case of Emergency" numbers being a good idea in a
>cell
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> "The LAFD talks about ICE"
> http://lafd.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_lafd_archive.html#112301093763723668

I've done the same.  Add a *space* at the beginning and it will become
the first entry in your directory.  Probably the location you prefer
for your ICE contact anyway.
Jer - 18 Dec 2005 01:07 GMT
> I read about "In Case of Emergency" numbers being a good idea in a cell
> phone.  Some first responder, maybe alerted by a label on the phone of ICE,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> "The LAFD talks about ICE"
> http://lafd.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_lafd_archive.html#112301093763723668

Yup, now all we gotta do is train all those first responders to operate
all the different brands and models of handsets out there and we'll be
ready the next time we do something stupid enough to kill our sorry a.ses.

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marx404 - 18 Dec 2005 04:36 GMT
I have a friend at work who is a cyclist, he showed me a similar article  in
a cycling magazine. It doesnt take much for some blue hair to run over a
curb or into your bike, the ICE # seems like a good idea in case you are
knocked out, and I been in that situation long before there were cell
phones.

marx404
Jer - 18 Dec 2005 13:15 GMT
> I have a friend at work who is a cyclist, he showed me a similar article  in
> a cycling magazine. It doesnt take much for some blue hair to run over a
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>
> marx404

I've also been in that situation, and the paramedics went for my wallet
first for emergency contact information - and found the contact info for
my doctor.  They already know how to operate a wallet.

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wkearney99 - 18 Dec 2005 17:00 GMT
> I've also been in that situation, and the paramedics went for my wallet
> first for emergency contact information - and found the contact info for
> my doctor.  They already know how to operate a wallet.

Having multiple methods to get help is certainly a good idea.  Any one of
them might be the one that helps.  I keep a card in my wallet, in the
glovebox of the car and the bag on the back of my bike.  If I need help I
sure as hell don't want to make it any more difficult for those helping me
to find.  ICE in the phone is just another way to help them HELP ME.

That and paramedics aren't an unskilled bunch.  Nor are the ER personnel.
It's likely someone involved in the process will be capable of checking the
phone.  It certainly can't hurt to cover all the bases.
DecaturTxCowboy - 18 Dec 2005 17:01 GMT
> I've also been in that situation, and the paramedics went for my wallet
> first for emergency contact information - and found the contact info for
> my doctor.  They already know how to operate a wallet.

Yeha....wallet is kind of like a flip phone. But more seriously, the new
Texas driver licenses have a place on the back for you to write in an
emergecy contact number.
dold@XReXXIXCXE.usenet.us.com - 19 Dec 2005 01:07 GMT
> Yeha....wallet is kind of like a flip phone. But more seriously, the new
> Texas driver licenses have a place on the back for you to write in an
> emergecy contact number.

The LAFD suggests that ICE is in addition to normal notification  methods,
like a card in the wallet.  New California Drivers' Licenses are plastic,
with a nice blank spot on the back.  I printed a label that is waterproof
with the same ICE information, and put it on the back of the license.

The article notes that cell phones are sometimes damaged, and often
separated from the owner.  Since they don't have a picture, it isn't
obvious who they belong to, unlike a license.

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John Navas - 19 Dec 2005 06:48 GMT
>I read about "In Case of Emergency" numbers being a good idea in a cell
>phone.  Some first responder, maybe alerted by a label on the phone of ICE,
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
>"The LAFD talks about ICE"
>http://lafd.blogspot.com/2005_08_01_lafd_archive.html#112301093763723668

With all due respect, I think this is a Really Silly Idea(tm).

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tmoran@acm.org - 19 Dec 2005 08:06 GMT
> With all due respect, I think this is a Really Silly Idea(tm).
I beg to differ.  It's easy to imagine scenarios where a wallet is
missing but a cell phone is present.  Knocked on the head by a
thief who grabbed the wallet, or water or fire has damaged the
wallet and ID but happens to have missed the phone, for instance.
Redundancy of information makes that information less destructible.
dold@XReXXIXCXE.usenet.us.com - 19 Dec 2005 16:19 GMT
> With all due respect, I think this is a Really Silly Idea(tm).

That could be, but it is, at worst, a harmless silly idea.

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DecaturTxCowboy - 20 Dec 2005 00:18 GMT
> With all due respect, I think this is a Really Silly Idea(tm).

With all due respct, I think your Really Silly Idea® is a Really Stupid
Observation®.

From newspaper stories, it has been well received and endorsed by local
police departments.

You want links?     "Google is your friend."

> "... I think ..."

"You'll have to do better than that" <-- John Davis, from his collection
of witty responses.
John Navas - 20 Dec 2005 02:47 GMT
>> With all due respect, I think this is a Really Silly Idea(tm).
>
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> From newspaper stories, it has been well received and endorsed by local
>police departments.

Like the advice from Homeland Security to lay in plastic sheeting and duct
tape?  ;)

Try asking a few cops what they think, and I think they'll tell you it's a
much better idea to carry emergency info in your wallet -- that's where
they'll look first, even if they have any idea of "ICE" numbers and how to
find them in cell phones.  Then there's the issue of security -- it won't do
any good unless you forego locking your phone.

You do what you want, but I'll keep my emergency info in my wallet, and my
cell phone locked.

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DecaturTxCowboy - 20 Dec 2005 04:51 GMT
Redundancy....  www.dictionary.com can be your friend too.
John Navas - 21 Dec 2005 05:11 GMT
>Redundancy....  www.dictionary.com can be your friend too.

Effective....  www.dictionary.com can be your friend too.

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clifto - 22 Dec 2005 22:48 GMT
>>Redundancy....  www.dictionary.com can be your friend too.
>
> Effective....  www.dictionary.com can be your friend too.

www.dictionary.com is EVERYBODY'S friend! After all, what's an antonym
for 'dictionary'?

A thesis, on the other hand, always has its antithesis...

And now, back to your regularly scheduled diversion.

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tmoran@acm.org - 20 Dec 2005 05:28 GMT
>You do what you want, but I'll keep my emergency info in my wallet,
 I think the idea was to have both, not one exclusive of the other.
>and my cell phone locked.
 Any data on what percent of cell phones in the US/world are locked?
(If this was an idea from Britain, obviously just "how we do things
here", or "how I do things" will be insufficient data.)
SMS - 20 Dec 2005 02:53 GMT
>> With all due respect, I think this is a Really Silly Idea(tm).
>
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>  From newspaper stories, it has been well received and endorsed by local
> police departments.

One of the other uses, according to the articles, is to aid in the
return of lost cell phones.

If Navas thinks that it's a Really Silly Idea®, that means it must be
Really Good Idea®.
John Navas - 21 Dec 2005 05:14 GMT
>>> With all due respect, I think this is a Really Silly Idea(tm).
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>One of the other uses, according to the articles, is to aid in the
>return of lost cell phones.

Not worth it.  Deactivate and move on.

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