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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / December 2005Is Cingular crippling Bluetooth capabilities on their Phones?
Hello. Sorry to post here but I'm a Verizon customer. I am planning of purchasing a new phone after my contract expires with VZW in 5 months. I'm not sure if I will stay with Verizon because all Bluetooth capable phones that they offer always has the disclaimer beside the BT feature description: "Only for certain profiles". I think this is for using the BT headset capabilities only. They have crippled being able to connect the phone with Bluetooth to your PC to upload objects that you have in your phone, or download something from your PC, like maybe a picture you want to make as your screen background on your phone, etc.... AND I always use my phone to connect to my laptop when I'm out and about and I need to connect to work where I'm head of the IT department. Are Cingular Bluetooth (I like the RAZR) phones crippled? Is Cingular data connection expensive? With Verizon, I use my minutes when I connect my laptop (or my Palm PDA) to my phone to connect to the Verizon network so I can securely VPN over to my work LAN. Thanks in advance. > Hello. > [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > Thanks in advance. No OBEX works fine on Cingular phones. I had the same issue with Verizon. You can copy anything you like to a Cingular phone via Bluetooth. However they do cripple some Nokia phones (maybe others?) by preventing you from using MP3s as ringtones. In order to get around that, you either have to convert the files to a different format or flash the firmware to non Cingular branded firmware. > using the BT headset capabilities only. They have crippled being able to > connect the phone with Bluetooth to your PC to upload objects that you > Are Cingular Bluetooth (I like the RAZR) phones crippled? My Cingular Motorola V551 seems to have full bluetooth capabilities. Windows XP can transfer objects, including one "contact" at a time. The Mobile Phone Tools software package synchronizes the phonebook with the PC, and offers more GUI on the transfer abilities. > Is Cingular data connection expensive? With Verizon, I use my minutes The "minutes" connection on Cingular, CSD, isn't readily available for new customers, although it does still exist. The Cingular MEdiaNet plans range from $4.99 to 19.99 <https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net_purchase> The "legal" page at the bottom suggests that you should not tether a computer using these plans. The full Laptop Connect Unlimited plan is currently $60/month.  Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 > > using the BT headset capabilities only. They have crippled being able to > > connect the phone with Bluetooth to your PC to upload objects that you [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > bottom suggests that you should not tether a computer using these plans. > The full Laptop Connect Unlimited plan is currently $60/month. I have an Audiovox SMT5600 and it is brain dead. All you can use the bluetooth for is a headset. You can't share data minutes with a laptop. Pretty disappointing. MC > I have an Audiovox SMT5600 and it is brain dead. All you can use the > bluetooth for is a headset. You can't share data minutes with a laptop. > Pretty disappointing. Maybe that's a function of the bluetooth adapter, since the drivers might come with it. I am using a DLink DBT-120 on Windows XP. I had to remove the Windows XP drivers that installed as soon as I plugged in the device (even after loading the DLink CDROM first), and then I had a "modem" in my Network Connections box under dialup. Start-Control Panel- Phones and Modems, modems-diagnostics allows me to "query" the modem, returning a bunch of status messages. This adapter and the DLink drivers work fine for passing pictures, video, java obex push, and internet access. They will not allow my Motorola HS820 bluetooth headset to be used as a Windows audio device, though. Did you try loading the Cingular Connection Manager? That seems to have a bunch of USB drivers with it. I used that the get my v220 connected via USB cable. I don't know if it would install some Audiovox-specific piece that you would need for tethering. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 > > I have an Audiovox SMT5600 and it is brain dead. All you can use the > > bluetooth for is a headset. You can't share data minutes with a laptop. [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > USB cable. I don't know if it would install some Audiovox-specific piece > that you would need for tethering. Hi Clarence, You are correct. You can use the SMT5600 as a modem. The issues with that are that you have to provide your own ISP and you get charged for minutes while you are connected. I know people who have a data plan on their phone and can piggy back a PC on the same data plan to share the unlimited data plans. I have called tech support for Cingular and confirmed this. MC > You are correct. You can use the SMT5600 as a modem. The issues with that > are that you have to provide your own ISP and you get charged for minutes > while you are connected. I know people who have a data plan on their phone > and can piggy back a PC on the same data plan to share the unlimited data > plans. I have called tech support for Cingular and confirmed this. The GSM data connection appears as a dialup modem in WindowsXP. I cannot use my v551 as a true dialout modem. That requires a CSD option on the Cingular account, which I don't have. When I "dial out" from Windows, I am actually making a data connection via GPRS, and a Cingular MEdiaNet option on my account, not voice minutes. The WindowsXP control panel modem diagnostics treat the v551 as a modem, communicating with it via AT commands over bluetooth. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 >You are correct. You can use the SMT5600 as a modem. The issues with that >are that you have to provide your own ISP and you get charged for minutes >while you are connected. That's CSD, not GPRS. The SMT5600 also supports GPRS (Class 10). >I know people who have a data plan on their phone >and can piggy back a PC on the same data plan to share the unlimited data >plans. I have called tech support for Cingular and confirmed this. Yep, but that's GPRS, not CSD. Different configuration required. See the FAQ below. SignatureBest regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> If you are looking to use your phone as a modem then download the communication manager from www.cingular.com/communicationmgr Once you install the software you can use a bluetooth conncection or data cable to tether through GPRS or EDGE. >If you are looking to use your phone as a modem then download the >communication manager from [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >Once you install the software you can use a bluetooth conncection or >data cable to tether through GPRS or EDGE. To use it with MEdia Net, you need to configure it manually. See the FAQ below. SignatureBest regards, SEE THE FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS AT John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> |
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