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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / January 2006MEdiaNetUnlimited as laptop modem
I just signed up for MEdiaNetUnlimited intending to use it as modem access to my email from my laptop. I believe I had it working once before, but cannot remember what I did. It was on another laptop. I remember people helping me here at this newsgroup, warning me that Cingular would try to tell me that I needed the more expensive package, but this could be made to work. It did. How did I do it? Help, anyone. I searched HowardForum, but didn't find anything - I probably didn't know how to search. TIA, Paul I forgot to add, I have a Motorola V551 and a USB data cable that I use routinely to upload and download names and numbers, ring tones, and pictures using DataPilot. So I just need help configuring whatever I need in my up-to-date Windows XP Pro. >I just signed up for MEdiaNetUnlimited intending to use it as modem access >to my email from my laptop. I believe I had it working once before, but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >work. It did. How did I do it? Help, anyone. I searched HowardForum, >but didn't find anything - I probably didn't know how to search. TIA, Paul go to cingular's website and download the communication manager. Install the software 1st then run it and then plug in your data cable and phone. Let the communication mgr software find the phone and install the correct drivers. download here: http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr Juan, I did as you suggested. It just sits there, saying "Acquiring Data Service". Strong signal - -59 dBm. Any idea? > go to cingular's website and download the communication manager. > Install the software 1st then run it and then plug in your data cable [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > http://www.cingular.com/midtolarge/communicationmgr Are you able to access the MEdia net service directly on your phone with out having the data cable plugged in? Have you power cycled your phone since you've added the MEdia net service? Does the communication manager software show blue signal bars when it's connected? You were correct - Cingular had to re-install my Medianet option and power cycle my phone for me. I have maximum bars of signal strength. Now I get an error 734, and I've done the suggestions (1 thru 3, and I was already at the store to get the option re-installed - he did remove and re-insert the SIM chip) still get the same error. Any more suggestions? Will the Cingular company store help me get it working - I'll bet not. Error 734: The PPP link control protocol terminated This error is typically reported if an unexpected error has occurred while connecting to an EDGE or GPRS network, but may also be due to poor signal strength. Follow these steps to resolve this error: 1.. Verify that there is no default dial-up connection selected in the Control Panel. Click here for instructions. 2.. If you are still unable to connect, shut down your PC. Then, restart the computer and the Communication Manager software and try to connect again. 3.. If you are still unable to connect, reinstall the software drivers for you wireless device. See Reinstalling the Device for more information. 4.. If you are still unable to connect, your device's Subscriber Information Module (SIM) may not be properly configured for data access. Contact Cingular Customer Care for Additional Support. ========================= > Are you able to access the MEdia net service directly on your phone > with out having the data cable plugged in? [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Does the communication manager software show blue signal bars when it's > connected? P Hoberg Wrote: > I just signed up for MEdiaNetUnlimited intending to use it as mode > access [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > HowardForum, but > didn't find anything - I probably didn't know how to search. TIA, Paul sorry to tell you this.. it won't work. you need a data package. Medianet is a wap application and onl accesses limited sites. but the cingular rep that sold you.. should have told you .. oh.. m bad I expected them to know thier own products. -- eatoranges > sorry to tell you this.. it won't work. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but the cingular rep that sold you.. should have told you .. oh.. my > bad I expected them to know thier own products.. Incorrect .... I have been using MEdianet for over a year and a half to tether to my laptop and ppc with my phone. I have full access to all websites, not just WAP specific. I also use opera mini browser every once in a blue moon on my phone to access the regular internet. While it is now technically against the TOS to tether (it wasnt when I signed up), it is still not blocked in any way and works perfectly. I tether several times a day with just the "plain 'ole" MEdianet. Hi "Yeeehaaa", Thank you for confirming my choice. Now, can you tell me how you accomplished it? I am using up-to-date Windows XP Pro. Please see my discussion with "Wirelessjuan" (above). Can you offer a solution for me? ====================== I have been using MEdianet for over a year and a half to tether to my laptop and ppc with my phone. I have full access to all websites, not just WAP specific. I also use opera mini browser every once in a blue moon on my phone to access the regular internet. While it is now technically against the TOS to tether (it wasnt when I signed up), it is still not blocked in any way and works perfectly. I tether several times a day with just the "plain 'ole" MEdianet. > Hi "Yeeehaaa", > Thank you for confirming my choice. Now, can you tell me how you > accomplished it? I am using up-to-date Windows XP Pro. Please see my > discussion with "Wirelessjuan" (above). Can you offer a solution for me? I can try <wink>. I don't use the connection software. I am also using bluetooth instead of a cable, but setup should be similar (I think I recall you saying you were using the USB data cable?) I setup a dial-up networking connection telling it to use my bluetooth modem (whichof course is my phone). I then tell the phone to dial "*99#" with user name WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM and PW "CINGULAR1". I don't use any additional modem strings, etc. > Hi "Yeeehaaa", > Thank you for confirming my choice. Now, can you tell me how you > accomplished it? I am using up-to-date Windows XP Pro. Please see my > discussion with "Wirelessjuan" (above). Can you offer a solution for me? The dialer profiles that you have are probably for the fully featured "Laptop Connect" packages, and don't work for the minimalist WAP "Media Net" account. Adjust the phone number to *99#, set the Username to WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM, and the password to CINGULAR1. The Laptop Connect package uses ISP@something. http://www.cingular.com/customer_service/phones_devices phone & device support Follow the configuration for browsing the internet from your phone, which I presume works, and make the PC dialer information use the same login. --- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 > sorry to tell you this.. it won't work. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > but the cingular rep that sold you.. should have told you .. oh.. my > bad I expected them to know thier own products.. This post is inaccurate. There is no limit on the types of sites that can be accessed with MediaNet. > sorry to tell you this.. it won't work. > > you need a data package. Actually, check the DejaNews archives from last month, quite a few people tether using MediaNet connections. Cingular doesn't prohibit it, but does reserve the right to cancel your MediaNet package if they want to.  Signaturejosh@phred.org is Joshua Putnam <http://www.phred.org/~josh/> Updated Infrared Photography Books List: <http://www.phred.org/~josh/photo/irbooks.html> Thanks, everybody. I added a Cingular option for another $3.99/month - "Data Access CSD" to get larger data packets, I think. I connect directly to my ISP using any area code's local access number - then run my browser or OE6 or whatever I want. It says I connect at 115 - I leave the "status" window running, to watch the activity - the speed isn't bad. Ah, sweet success, finally. Whew! I can visit CES Thursday in Vegas, avoid the hotel room's high per minute phone line costs, and leave that line available. >I just signed up for MEdiaNetUnlimited intending to use it as modem access >to my email from my laptop. I believe I had it working once before, but [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >work. It did. How did I do it? Help, anyone. I searched HowardForum, >but didn't find anything - I probably didn't know how to search. TIA, Paul > Thanks, everybody. I added a Cingular option for another $3.99/month - > "Data Access CSD" to get larger data packets, I think. I connect directly [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > the hotel room's high per minute phone line costs, and leave that line > available. Kill the CSD, unless you need dial-up instead of the much faster EDGE. CSD runs at 14.4kbps (or is it 9.6kbps?). With EDGE and a decent signal, you will get well over 100kbps. The 115 you are seeing is the port speed (speed of connection between your phone and computer), not the speed you are connecting to the internet. I'd like that, but could never get past the 734 error. Too late to change now - maybe when I'm back this weekend I can work with you to figure out how. But for now, this is slow, but better than nothing. I start driving in 2 hours. > Kill the CSD, unless you need dial-up instead of the much faster EDGE. CSD > runs at 14.4kbps (or is it 9.6kbps?). With EDGE and a decent signal, you > will get well over 100kbps. The 115 you are seeing is the port speed > (speed of connection between your phone and computer), not the speed you > are connecting to the internet. > I'd like that, but could never get past the 734 error. Too late to change > now - maybe when I'm back this weekend I can work with you to figure out [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > > (speed of connection between your phone and computer), not the speed you > > are connecting to the internet. Just remember that CSD is using up your minutes - not data > I'd like that, but could never get past the 734 error. Too late to change > now - maybe when I'm back this weekend I can work with you to figure out > how. But for now, this is slow, but better than nothing. I start driving > in 2 hours. The CSD option, if the speed is sufficient, is a good deal. Most people have excess rollover minutes, and if you are connected off peak, you probably have a huge pool of minutes to use. They are voice minutes, not data KB, so it's a different pool to keep track of, and voice minutes are expensive if you go over your plan minutes. The CSD option is supported, which MediaNet is not, although it does work. The MediaNet option is faster, but far more expensive, especially for occasional use. Signature--- Clarence A Dold - Hidden Valley (Lake County) CA USA 38.8,-122.5 P Hoberg Wrote: > I just signed up for MEdiaNetUnlimited intending to use it as mode > access [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > HowardForum, but > didn't find anything - I probably didn't know how to search. TIA, Paul Why not make it easy and buy motorola's phone tools? It updates to th latest version which allows you to do what you're trying to do. I ha it going (once updated to the latest version) in less than five minute over bluetooth I hooked my V551 up over the weekend and I too was getting the 734 Error. I finally tried making a new connection with Motorola Phone tools and discovered the number that was set up in the communication manager was different from the one that Phone Tools had created. I then decided to edit the accelerated connection through the Cingular Communication manager and changed the dial up number from *99***1# to *99***3#. BINGO! No more error message and connected at 115kbs. I tested the connection between Motorola Phone tools and the Cingular Communication Manager and they were the same. I checked speeds at www.bandwidthtestplace.com and they both were within 5kbs of each test. You can make a manual connection as suggested in this thread with the following info: (info is case senitive) User Name: WAP@CINGULARGPRS.COM Password: CINGULAR1 Dial Up #: *99***3# Hope this helps! Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Juan, that fixed my problem also, and the connections speed is much faster that with the extra $3.95 option that also used my talking minutes. On my last rip to Cingular to turn the $3.95 option off, the guy said the V551 is not an edge phone so this will not be faster. He obviously was wrong about something. Any idea? TIA, Paul >I hooked my V551 up over the weekend and I too was getting the 734 > Error. I finally tried making a new connection with Motorola Phone [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > Hope this helps! The V551 is most definetly an EDGE phone. Here is the link right to their site with the V551 on it. http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phones/cell-phones.jsp? source=INC230063&_requestid=73958 Motorola V551 Select Features: Quad band GSM/GPRS/EDGE and Bluetooth® compatible Sean > Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Juan, that fixed my problem also, and the > connections speed is much faster that with the extra $3.95 option that also > used my talking minutes. On my last rip to Cingular to turn the $3.95 > option off, the guy said the V551 is not an edge phone so this will not be > faster. He obviously was wrong about something. Any idea? TIA, Paul Apples and oranges. The $3.95 option that uses minutes is CSD (circuit switched data). The star99 code is causing the V551 to connect using GPRS which is several times faster than CSD. EDGE is about twice as fast as non-EDGE GPRS. The Cingular rep must have thought your old option *HAD* GPRS and you were getting MNUL to get EDGE--in which case you *wouldn't* have seen any speed increase if the phone doesn't support it. As to why he thought that--Cingular is no longer actively marketing CSD and there are probably quite a few salespeople now that have no clue what it is. CSD - 14.4 kbs max but often closer to 9.6 GPRS - 160 kbs max--30-80 kbs typical "in the 50's" norm EDGE - 240 kbs max--115 kbs seems to be pretty typical UMTS - 1920 kbs max--384 kbs typical in places like Japan that's had it awhile. Some reports indicate that Cingular is arbitrarily limiting the time slots used by EDGE during peak voice hours causing EDGE to approach non- EDGE GPRS speeds at those times. Hopefully that will be stopped once the "combined" network is balanced. More than you may want to know on CSD, GPRS and EDGE at http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/General_Packet_Radio_Service SignatureJud Dallas TX USA Would this process also apply to connecting from a PDA? I have been trying to do this from my Palm T5 for months and failed (and this still hasn't worked for me). It used to work with 0 effort on my part when I was with AT&T wireless, but for some reason Cingular has really screwed me up on it. Any suggestions would be great. > Would this process also apply to connecting from a PDA? I have been > trying to do this from my Palm T5 for months and failed (and this still [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Any suggestions would be great. Yes, it works the same on my Axim x51v/Moto v551 combo. Yeeehaaa Wrote: > > Would this process also apply to connecting from a PDA? I hav > been [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Yes, it works the same on my Axim x51v/Moto v551 combo. I hate to belabor the points presented in this thread, but I have rea all of the responses and am struggling with connecting the HP IPAQ 651 tethered to a Dell laptop. The connection manager never sees the phone On one occassion I was able to get the computer to see the H smartphone, but even in that case the communication manager wizar didn't pick up on it. Does anyone have a suggestion? I called Cingular's data group and they said Media Net doesn't work i this situation and I would need to order the Laptop data plan > Yeeehaaa Wrote: >> > Would this process also apply to connecting from a PDA? I have [quoted text clipped - 21 lines] > I called Cingular's data group and they said Media Net doesn't work in > this situation and I would need to order the Laptop data plan. When you paired your phone, was there a "dial-up networking" service available on the phone, or just OBEX, PIM, etc? I didn't think you could connect to MEdia net with a Smart Phone device. I'm pretty sure you will need to have a PDA data type plan in order for it to work. Can you connect to MEdia net with just the HP IPAQ browser on the phone? Wirelessjuan Wrote: > I didn't think you could connect to MEdia net with a Smart Phone > device. I'm pretty sure you will need to have a PDA data type plan in > order for it to work. Can you connect to MEdia net with just the HP > IPAQ browser on the phone? Yes, I can connect with Media net using the browser. No problem a long as the GPRS is connected. My interest in using the phone wit the laptop is to improve the readability of the emails and ease i responding to them and to view websites Yeeehaaa Wrote: > > Yeeehaaa Wrote: > >> > Would this process also apply to connecting from a PDA? I have [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] > When you paired your phone, was there a "dial-up networking" service > available on the phone, or just OBEX, PIM, etc? Please bear with me but I don't remember pairing the phone. Whe should that happen > Yeeehaaa Wrote: >> > [quoted text clipped - 34 lines] > Please bear with me but I don't remember pairing the phone. When > should that happen? My fault, I was just assuming bluetooth. I don't think you ever specifically said that ;) |
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