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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / January 2006Call forwarding between two Cingular phones
I am planning on buying two Cingular phones/plans -- one for personal use and the other for business use, the latter paid for by my employer. If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or only my personal phone plan? Thanks! "amar" <amar_kapadia@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1138054737.799363.217440 @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: > I am planning on buying two Cingular phones/plans -- one for personal > use and the other for business use, the latter paid for by my employer. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Thanks! This would probably fall under Mobile to Mobile and the call would be free. However, you might want to check since the definition on the Cingular site says from one account to another account. If both are your account the Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first. > "amar" <amar_kapadia@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1138054737.799363.217440 > @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > says from one account to another account. If both are your account the > Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first. The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name, and all our calls to each other are free, that is why they are called "family share plans." It is the call-forwarding that will bite you if you don't check that out. I think somewhere in the fine print it says that call-forwarding does away with the free mobile to mobile angle. >> "amar" <amar_kapadia@hotmail.com> wrote in news:1138054737.799363.217440 >> @z14g2000cwz.googlegroups.com: [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > check that out. I think somewhere in the fine print it says that > call-forwarding does away with the free mobile to mobile angle. I think you are right about the call forwarding. On the Cingular site it says: "Call Forwarding lets you forward your incoming wireless calls to another phone number. Airtime charges, plus any applicable long distance and/or roaming charges, are incurred for calls forwarded via the wireless network. With Call Forwarding activated: a.. You can continue to make outgoing calls from your telephone. Incoming calls will be forwarded. b.. When the telephone number to which your calls are being forwarded is busy, callers to your number will receive a busy signal. c.. To change the number to which your calls are forwarded, deactivate the feature. Then, follow the activation instructions to enter the new number. Call Forwarding is included on all Cingular and former AT&T Wireless rate plans. Forwarded calls are billed airtime from the time the call is answered until it is ended. Each call forwarded may receive, depending on your location, per minute/per call or interconnect charges based on where the call is forwarded. Long Distance charges apply if the call is forwarded to a long distance number. If you are on a former AT&T Wireless rate plan, call forwarding minutes do not apply to your included minutes." > The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name, and > all our calls to each other are free, that is why they are called "family > share plans." No, it's not. They're family share plans only because of the billing. Mobile to mobile calls from any Cingular number to any other Cingular number, regardless of who owns the numbers, are free for those who have unlimited mobile to mobile calling. >> The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name, >> and [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > number, regardless of who owns the numbers, are free for those who have > unlimited mobile to mobile calling. OK, we all get the free mobile to mobile among the Cingular network but Jon Newman wrote: "However, you might want to check since the definition on the Cingular site says from one account to another account. If both are your account the Mobile to Mobile may not count. So, be safe, aske them first." I was telling them that even if both the numbers are owned by the same person or on the same account, they are STILL free mobile to mobile. The cellular companies tout these plans as "family share plans" for this reason. You have unlimited minutes among the members of your family plan--that is the selling point. Jon advised him to ask because he thought that wasn't the deal. > >> The mobile to mobile is OK, because our four lines are under one name, > >> and [quoted text clipped - 22 lines] > the selling point. Jon advised him to ask because he thought that wasn't > the deal. I think that the little * in this thread is that the call forwarding minutes may not be applied as M2M as they are call forwarded and may fall into a separate category. On ATTWS you would be charged the per minute rate for call forwarding.(i.e. .35 cents a minute) > I was telling them that even if both the numbers are owned by the same > person or on the same account, they are STILL free mobile to mobile. well...yes....because ALL Cingular-to-Cingular calling is free. It's not an "even if.." situation. Your "Even if..." situation assumes that there exists some circumstances for which the Cingular-to-Cingular calls are NOT free. Not so. > The cellular companies tout these plans as "family share > plans" for this reason. Not really. They tout that family members can talk to one another for free, sure--but they also tout, just as loudly, that they can talk to anyone else within the network. Just look at any Verizon ad or commercial. > You have unlimited minutes among the members of your family plan--that is > the selling point. That's not the selling point of a family plan. Each family member *could* have his own account, and STILL have free calls to one another. The point of a family plan is the cheaper billing. Again, the companies tout the free mobile to mobile calling with ANYONE in the network. They don't tout it just for family plans. >> I was telling them that even if both the numbers are owned by the same >> person or on the same account, they are STILL free mobile to mobile. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >there exists some circumstances for which the Cingular-to-Cingular calls >are NOT free. Actually there is at least one situation where Cingular to Cingular calling is not free. That is the now discontinued $29.99 plan (however it was only discontinued within the last year so there are still people on it. Under this plan, when I signed up for it, I received two buckets of minutes per month: 250 anytime minutes and 1,000 night and weekend. Call fordwarding, and Cingular to Cingular calling, come out of the appropriate bucket. > If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only > have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or > only my personal phone plan? He has a good question here.... While calls from a Cingular user to another Cingular user are free, regardless if the two phones on different accounts, different markets (i.e. Dallas and west Texas area), different family plans, etc., the Call Forwarding clause might override this. In other words, if you forward your call, the Cingular billing apparatus might see this as a billable call. Since I really don't trust Customer Service to understand the question, I suppose the best way to settle this topic would be to simply try it out and look at your bill the following month. All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I was charged for forwarding $.40 per minute, even though I had plenty of minutes. >> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only >> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > topic would be to simply try it out and look at your bill the following > month. > All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I was > charged for forwarding $.40 per minute, even though I had plenty of > minutes. Well, I guess that answers that question for us. Thanks. >All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I was >charged for forwarding $.40 per minute, even though I had plenty of >minutes. Interesting. I use call forwarding also and I am charged minutes but there never any surcharge. I wonder what the difference is? In my case the forwarding is to a local landline number. Maybe that is the difference. >>> If I forward from my personal phone to my business phone (so I only >>> have to carry one), will I get charged for minutes on BOTH plans or [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >> topic would be to simply try it out and look at your bill the following >> month. >>All forwarded calls are charged from the get go, its, its own bucket. I >>was [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the forwarding is to a local landline number. Maybe that is the > difference. I don't know, I am a legacy customer on the blue side. I saw the feature in my phone (Nokia 3650), so setup forward on busy and no answer. Both were charged by the minute, even though I had plenty of minutes. Maybe the orange side has different rules? |
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