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"Cingular Wireless Announces Fourth-Quarter 2005 Results"

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John Navas - 26 Jan 2006 16:42 GMT
<http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=1435>

  Best-ever overall churn of 2.1 percent, postpaid churn at 1.9 percent

  ATLANTA, Jan. 24 /PRNewswire/ -- Cingular Wireless LLC, which is a
  joint venture between AT&T Inc., formerly SBC Communications Inc.
  (NYSE: T), and BellSouth Corporation (NYSE: BLS), today reported
  solid fourth-quarter results driven by its best-ever overall churn,
  record net customer additions, strong gross additions, progress on
  merger initiatives, growth of data ARPU, and strength in enterprise
  services.

  For the quarter, the nation's largest wireless provider reported
  monthly subscriber churn of 2.1 percent -- its lowest ever. This
  represents an improvement of 30 basis points* over the year-ago
  fourth quarter and a sequential improvement of 20 basis points.
  Postpaid churn improved sequentially by 10 basis points to 1.9
  percent.

  Driven in part by its churn results, Cingular also reported a record
  1.8 million net customer additions, which is more than double the
  number reported in the third quarter of 2005 and compares to 1.7
  million pro forma net additions in the fourth quarter of 2004.

  ...

  Gross additions were 5.1 million, which is a sequential improvement
  of 750 thousand customers and less than 100 thousand on a comparable
  basis from pro forma gross additions in the fourth quarter of 2004*.
  The sequential improvement in gross adds was primarily driven by
  holiday buying activity of prepaid and reseller customers.

  Cingular ended 2005 with 54.1 million cellular/PCS subscribers, an
  increase of 5 million over 2004.

  Cingular's data ARPU was $4.71, up 63 percent over the year-ago
  fourth quarter and a sequential improvement of 9 percent. ...

  ...

  During the fourth quarter of 2005, 95 percent of minutes were carried
  on Cingular's GSM network and 86 percent of the company's subscriber
  base was GSM-equipped. Approximately 7 percent of Cingular's customer
  base upgraded handsets during the fourth quarter.

  Cingular has now converted nearly 7 million former AT&T Wireless
  subscribers to new Cingular plans ...

  [MORE]

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Scott - 27 Jan 2006 03:44 GMT
> <http://cingular.mediaroom.com/index.php?s=press_releases&item=1435>
>
[quoted text clipped - 43 lines]
>   Cingular has now converted nearly 7 million former AT&T Wireless
>   subscribers to new Cingular plans ...

<yawn>

Another subpar report from Cingular.  When they lead with the numbers they
used, it only means that revenue and profit will fall far short of the rest.
SMS - 27 Jan 2006 04:22 GMT
> Another subpar report from Cingular.  When they lead with the numbers they
> used, it only means that revenue and profit will fall far short of the rest.

Terrible results, with ARPU falling 2.2%, while Verizon's ARPU was up
3%, and with Verizon having 50% more total additions during 2005. Ouch.

The funniest part of Cingular's news release was where they quoted data
ARPU but forgot to mention voice ARPU in the text, leaving it for the
section on financial results.

However with the Cingular getting distribution through Radio Shack, and
Verizon losing it, I think Cingular will do better in net additions in
2006. I wonder how much they had to pay Radio Shack to drop Verizon.
Scott - 27 Jan 2006 04:40 GMT
>> Another subpar report from Cingular.  When they lead with the numbers
>> they used, it only means that revenue and profit will fall far short of
>> the rest.
>
> Terrible results, with ARPU falling 2.2%, while Verizon's ARPU was up 3%,
> and with Verizon having 50% more total additions during 2005. Ouch.

I believe Sprint will also show more net adds for the year as well.

> The funniest part of Cingular's news release was where they quoted data
> ARPU but forgot to mention voice ARPU in the text, leaving it for the
> section on financial results.

The press release looks as if it were written for a high school newspaper.
It certainly wasn't written with even the most basic investor in mind.
Leading with churn,  using gross adds instead of net adds for the year and
only mentioning a $4.71 ARPU figure as a big accomplishment is a pretty
pathetic course to take.  This is just a classic example of a company using
secondary metrics to hide poor performance in the areas that count.

> However with the Cingular getting distribution through Radio Shack, and
> Verizon losing it, I think Cingular will do better in net additions in
> 2006. I wonder how much they had to pay Radio Shack to drop Verizon.

I don't see that as any kind of real edge.  Every Radio Shack I've been by
in the last couple of months has Sprint much more prominently displayed.
SMS - 27 Jan 2006 16:31 GMT
>>> Another subpar report from Cingular.  When they lead with the numbers
>>> they used, it only means that revenue and profit will fall far short of
[quoted text clipped - 20 lines]
> I don't see that as any kind of real edge.  Every Radio Shack I've been by
> in the last couple of months has Sprint much more prominently displayed.

It's been only four weeks since Cingular went into Radio Shack, and
Radio Shack has been advertising Cingular a lot. The Radio Shack dealers
in the San Francisco Bay Area are extremely unhappy over the change from
Verizon to Cingular.
John Navas - 27 Jan 2006 16:43 GMT
>It's been only four weeks since Cingular went into Radio Shack, and
>Radio Shack has been advertising Cingular a lot. The Radio Shack dealers
>in the San Francisco Bay Area are extremely unhappy over the change from
>Verizon to Cingular.

And pigs have wings.

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Scott - 28 Jan 2006 05:16 GMT
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>
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>
> And pigs have wings.

Wow, John- that really contributed to the discussion.  Moron.

I've talked to a few of the salesmen in the stores here- they say their
phone commissions are about half of what they were with Verizon- not because
the actual commission is less, but because sales volume has plummeted.

Now John- care to comment on two factual posts that contradict your
uneducated view of the situation?  Or shall you go silent in this thread,
avoiding the conversation altogether?  I know which is the obvious choice.
SMS - 28 Jan 2006 07:05 GMT
>> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>>
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> phone commissions are about half of what they were with Verizon- not because
> the actual commission is less, but because sales volume has plummeted.

The incredible part of this is that it's a _ten year agreement_ between
Cingular and Radio Shack. I wonder if the terms of the agreement are
such that franchisees are forbidden from selling T-Mobile or Verizon.

Another source for the Radio Shack/Cingular story is at
"http://www.cbc.ca/cp/business/060112/b011262.html"

But the best source of the impact is to talk to a Radio Shack franchise
owner (rather than the manager of a company owned store), outside the
store where they can be honest about the situation. They are extremely
unhappy right now, as are the sales people. Commissions from the
carriers are a major source of revenue for Radio Shack franchisee's.

Circuit City really got it right, with Verizon for quality service, and
T-Mobile for low-cost service.

> Now John- care to comment on two factual posts that contradict your
> uneducated view of the situation?  Or shall you go silent in this thread,
> avoiding the conversation altogether?  I know which is the obvious choice.

Facts are facts and will not disappear on account of your likes.
Jawaharlal Nehru
John Navas - 31 Jan 2006 20:28 GMT
>But the best source of the impact is to talk to a Radio Shack franchise
>owner (rather than the manager of a company owned store), outside the
>store where they can be honest about the situation. They are extremely
>unhappy right now, as are the sales people. Commissions from the
>carriers are a major source of revenue for Radio Shack franchisee's.

Proof by repetition (of unsupported claims)?

>Circuit City really got it right, with Verizon for quality service, and
>T-Mobile for low-cost service.

Because that agrees with your anti-Cingular agenda.

>> Now John- care to comment on two factual posts that contradict your
>> uneducated view of the situation?  Or shall you go silent in this thread,
>> avoiding the conversation altogether?  I know which is the obvious choice.
>
>Facts are facts and will not disappear on account of your likes.
>Jawaharlal Nehru

All we have from you thus far are unsupported claims.  The facts (as
documented in the financial press) are that the business at Radio Shack was in
trouble, and that the switch to Cingular is part of the effort to turn that
around.

<http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060112/radioshack_outlook.html?.v=6>
RadioShack Confirms 2005 Profit Shortfall
RadioShack Confirms 2005 Earnings Will Miss Goal,
4Q Total Sales Rose 5 Percent

  RadioShack Corp. says revenue rose in the fourth quarter, but sales
  of wireless phones and highly profitable accessories were
  disappointing, and the electronics retailer still expects to miss
  earnings targets for all of 2005.

  The company said Thursday that total sales rose 5 percent in the
  fourth quarter, to $1.67 billion, and sales at stores open at least
  one year -- a key measurement for retailers -- increased 4 percent.

  But much of the gains came in low-profit gadgets such as MP3 music
  players and digital cameras, and they weren't enough to salvage the
  full-year results. RadioShack said it would miss its goal of earning
  $2.14 to $2.24 per share -- around $300 million -- for all of last
  year.

  ...

  Chief Executive David J. Edmondson said the transition from Verizon
  to Cingular was "more painful than we expected" but will pay
  dividends because RadioShack won the right to open stores under the
  Sprint and Cingular brands.

  ...   

<http://biz.yahoo.com/fool/060112/113708679513.html?.v=1>
Motley Fool
RadioShack Losing Power

  It's been a tough year for the Shack. Almost a year ago to the day,
  the company said it was confident that it would see 20% earnings
  growth over 2004's results, but the euphoria was short-lived. Just
  two months later, the company's sales fell; it realized that it would
  miss its first-quarter forecasts, and possibly its full-year
  predictions. It's been dialing down expectations all year long.

<http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060113/radioshack_stock.html?.v=2>
RadioShack Stock Up on Analyst Upgrade
RadioShack Stock Rises;
Prudential Upgrade to 'Overweight' Cites 'Groove' Return

  RadioShack Corp. stock rose Friday after Prudential analyst Mark
  Rowen upgraded his rating on the stock to "overweight" from "neutral,
  " saying that 2006 could be the year when the consumer electronics
  retailer "gets its groove back."

  Shares of Fort Worth, Texas-based RadioShack rose $1.38, or 6.4
  percent, to $22.87 in midday trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

  Rowen points to three reasons why he's upbeat about the stock. First,
  the initial phase of the transition to selling Cingular Wireless
  products instead of Verizon Wireless products is complete. That
  "significantly" lowers the retailer's operational risk, Rowen said.

  Second, the addition of Cingular nearly doubles RadioShack's wireless
  market opportunity to 15.5 million subscribers from 8 million, Rowen
  said.

  Although it's not clear whether RadioShack will be able to capitalize
  on the opportunity, Prudential is optimistic the retailer will, he
  said.

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John Navas - 31 Jan 2006 20:15 GMT
>>>It's been only four weeks since Cingular went into Radio Shack, and
>>>Radio Shack has been advertising Cingular a lot. The Radio Shack dealers
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>
>Wow, John- that really contributed to the discussion.

It does just what I intended, which is to poke a bit of fun at his wild and
unsupported claim.  He almost certainly has no way of really knowing what the
majority of Radio Shack dealers actually think, and is making this up in
"support" of his own anti-Cingular agenda, as reflected in all the time and
energy he invests here even though he's a Verizon subscriber.

>Moron.

All that does is make you look immature and devoid of any real substance.

>I've talked to a few of the salesmen in the stores here- they say their
>phone commissions are about half of what they were with Verizon- not because
>the actual commission is less, but because sales volume has plummeted.

That's supposed to be validation of "SMS"?  

>Now John- care to comment on two factual posts that contradict your
>uneducated view of the situation?  Or shall you go silent in this thread,
>avoiding the conversation altogether?  I know which is the obvious choice.

No real facts have been presented, just anecdotal claims.

Problems at Radio Shack are well known and unrelated to Cingular.  Cellular
sales make up a big part of the business and were in trouble long before the
Cingular deal, which is probably part of why the company switched to Cingular.
That kind of cold turkey change inevitably results and did result in short
term issues (e.g., inventory, training, momentum, promotions), which are
likewise well known.  All that said, it's way too early to judge the success
of the switch.  Let's see how things look at the end of at least a quarter or
two.

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Scott - 01 Feb 2006 02:50 GMT
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
[quoted text clipped - 21 lines]
> and
> energy he invests here even though he's a Verizon subscriber.

So, you are calling Steve a liar?  Pretty bold statement from somebody
frequently proven wrong in this forum.

>>Moron.
>
> All that does is make you look immature and devoid of any real substance.

Or it shows that I'm an excellent judge of character.

>>I've talked to a few of the salesmen in the stores here- they say their
>>phone commissions are about half of what they were with Verizon- not
>>because
>>the actual commission is less, but because sales volume has plummeted.
>
> That's supposed to be validation of "SMS"?

Well, two of us have the same story and you seem to be alone in your glowing
view of the situation.

>>Now John- care to comment on two factual posts that contradict your
>>uneducated view of the situation?  Or shall you go silent in this thread,
>>avoiding the conversation altogether?  I know which is the obvious choice.
>
> No real facts have been presented, just anecdotal claims.

No- facts have been presented, unless you are calling us both liars.

> Problems at Radio Shack are well known and unrelated to Cingular.
> Cellular
> sales make up a big part of the business and were in trouble long before
> the
> Cingular deal, which is probably part of why the company switched to
> Cingular.

So you are guessing again and have no facts to support your claim.  That is
anecdotal.

> That kind of cold turkey change inevitably results and did result in short
> term issues (e.g., inventory, training, momentum, promotions), which are
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> or
> two.

Its always easy to take the wait-and-see approach when the facts don't
support your claims.
SMS - 01 Feb 2006 03:41 GMT
<snip>

> So, you are calling Steve a liar?  Pretty bold statement from somebody
> frequently proven wrong in this forum.

Like many business-people that own the same type of franchise, Radio
Shack owners know what is going on in terms of sales volumes of key
products at other franchise locations in the area, often down to the
volumes that other stores sell.

I did not claim that all Radio Shack stores across the country are
unhappy with Cingular, I have no way of knowing that. It's a fact that
in the SF Bay area, wireless sales volumes are way down since January 1.
Cingular has a very poor reputation in this area, due to what happened
originally with Pacific Bell Wireless around 2000-2002.

The news story I quoted simply confirmed what the franchisees are saying.
Scott - 01 Feb 2006 03:51 GMT
> <snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
> The news story I quoted simply confirmed what the franchisees are saying.

But John claims otherwise and guesses at why this will work.  How dare you
use facts when the great John Novice says otherwise!!
SMS - 01 Feb 2006 05:38 GMT
> But John claims otherwise and guesses at why this will work.  How dare you
> use facts when the great John Novice says otherwise!!

Karl Rove has competition.
Michael3977 - 01 Feb 2006 14:59 GMT
Just my 2 cents, on this whole thing,  I work PT for Home Depot and we
have Verizon Keosk's in all of the stores,  there on a 6 month trial
basis,  and there sales plan is really up there.  So far there NOT
looking good and if they dont pick it up ,  there all done in another 3
months,  I dont know about other area's  I live in the Albany NY area.
As far as Radio Shack and Cingular,  I dont know of anyone that has
bought through them.
SMS - 01 Feb 2006 17:13 GMT
> Just my 2 cents, on this whole thing,  I work PT for Home Depot and we
> have Verizon Keosk's in all of the stores,  there on a 6 month trial
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> As far as Radio Shack and Cingular,  I dont know of anyone that has
> bought through them.

I can't imagine anyone buying their cell phones at Home Depot, it
doesn't seem to fit, but who knows. Costco is doing well in cellular
phone sales, but they offer better deals than Sprint or Verizon stores
or online.
SMS - 01 Feb 2006 17:23 GMT
> Just my 2 cents, on this whole thing,  I work PT for Home Depot and we
> have Verizon Keosk's in all of the stores,  there on a 6 month trial
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> As far as Radio Shack and Cingular,  I dont know of anyone that has
> bought through them.

It's a big difference between what's happening at Home Depot and Radio
Shack. With Radio Shack, you had a good baseline of what to expect in
terms of new subscribers. Also, wireless sales generate a large portion
of the revenue generated in each store, unlike Home Depot.

While most Radio Shack stores are company-owned (about 1/3 are
franchises), there are enough franchises for anyone who is interested to
get the real story from the front line, though the news reports have
also explicitly stated that "it's suffering from lower-than-anticipated
sales and profits in its wireless division." Can't get much clearer than
that!

Home Depot does get the biggest discount for its employees from Verizon,
a whopping 25% off!
John Navas - 02 Feb 2006 05:14 GMT
>> But John claims otherwise and guesses at why this will work.  How dare you
>> use facts when the great John Novice says otherwise!!
>
>Karl Rove has competition.

Bucking for his job?  Bottom fallen out of self-proclaimed cellular expertise?
;)

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Scott - 02 Feb 2006 18:16 GMT
Bottom fallen out of self-proclaimed cellular expertise?

Apparently not- you're still here.
SMS - 02 Feb 2006 00:37 GMT
> But John claims otherwise and guesses at why this will work.  How dare you
> use facts when the great John Novice says otherwise!!

I was in Costco in Mountain View today and was looking at the Verizon
phones that they offered since I'm up for my $100 off a new handset next
month. They had a poor selection of handsets, but they were promoting
the fact that they have an extra $50 rebate, as well as they include a
warranty for as long as you own the phone, AND that you can change
phones at any time, with no contract extension, by returning your old
phone for FULL refund. Pretty bizarre, but they insisted that this was true.

Anyway, the Verizon store, in the same shopping center with Costco,
didn't have the Motorola V325 I wanted on display. I asked about it, and
they said that they had it, but they didn't put it out. I wonder why
they don't want to encourage sales of this model? It's the only phone
that Verizon offers that meets my criteria.

The Verizon store was mobbed, and I couldn't get a salesperson after
waiting about 15 minutes. I asked at the repair area in the back about
the V325, and to find out the exact date that I can get a new phone, and
I mentioned about the store being so crowded. They said that since Radio
Shack dropped Verizon on January 1, the volume in the Verizon stores had
gone up significantly, and that they were trying to hire additional
sales people. So besides all the media reports about the impact on Radio
Shack of dropping Verizon, there is an opposite, positive effect, on the
Verizon stores.
John Navas - 02 Feb 2006 16:23 GMT
>The Verizon store was mobbed, and I couldn't get a salesperson after
>waiting about 15 minutes. I asked at the repair area in the back about
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>Shack of dropping Verizon, there is an opposite, positive effect, on the
>Verizon stores.

Based entirely on your one anecdotal unverifiable story.  :)

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John Navas - 02 Feb 2006 05:14 GMT
>> The news story I quoted simply confirmed what the franchisees are saying.
>
>But John claims otherwise and guesses at why this will work.  How dare you
>use facts when the great John Novice says otherwise!!

The story itself says otherwise.

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John Navas - 01 Feb 2006 23:00 GMT
><snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
>
>The news story I quoted simply confirmed what the franchisees are saying.

In fact it contradicted what you are saying.

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John Navas - 01 Feb 2006 22:59 GMT
>> It does just what I intended, which is to poke a bit of fun at his wild
>> and
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>So, you are calling Steve a liar?

What I wrote speaks for itself.

>Pretty bold statement from somebody
>frequently proven wrong in this forum.

Wrong on both counts.

>> That's supposed to be validation of "SMS"?
>
>Well, two of us have the same story ...

Color me unimpressed.

>> No real facts have been presented, just anecdotal claims.
>
>No- facts have been presented, unless you are calling us both liars.

I stand by what I wrote.

>> Problems at Radio Shack are well known and unrelated to Cingular.
>> Cellular
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>So you are guessing again and have no facts to support your claim.  That is
>anecdotal.

In fact I'm the only one that's posted any supporting evidence.

>> That kind of cold turkey change inevitably results and did result in short
>> term issues (e.g., inventory, training, momentum, promotions), which are
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>Its always easy to take the wait-and-see approach when the facts don't
>support your claims.

You're projecting.

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Scott - 02 Feb 2006 18:24 GMT
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>
> What I wrote speaks for itself.

Yes it does, but not as you would see it.

>>Pretty bold statement from somebody
>>frequently proven wrong in this forum.
>
> Wrong on both counts.

Are you kidding?  You were proven wrong again in this very forum last night
and now have posted conflicting information to cover your tracks.

>>> That's supposed to be validation of "SMS"?
>>
>>Well, two of us have the same story ...
>
> Color me unimpressed.

Color you clueless.

>>> No real facts have been presented, just anecdotal claims.
>>
>>No- facts have been presented, unless you are calling us both liars.
>
> I stand by what I wrote.

Good thing you don't care about your credibility.

>>> Problems at Radio Shack are well known and unrelated to Cingular.
>>> Cellular
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
>
> In fact I'm the only one that's posted any supporting evidence.

Not true.

>>> That kind of cold turkey change inevitably results and did result in
>>> short
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
> You're projecting.

No- you were projecting.  I was making an informed observation..
SMS - 04 Feb 2006 03:31 GMT
<snip>

See:

"http://www.abqtrib.com/albq/fe_columnists/article/0,2564,ALBQ_19842_4436951,00.html"

if you want to understand one reason Cingular's 4Q2005 results were so poor.

It's tough to increase your net additions with such high churn, but it
costs money to put the customer service infrastructure in place to keep
customers happy.

I guess that newspaper won't be getting much advertising revenue from
Cingular!
John Navas - 04 Feb 2006 07:50 GMT
><snip>
>
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
>
>if you want to understand one reason Cingular's 4Q2005 results were so poor.

Actually quite good, as noted in my earlier post here.

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Scott - 04 Feb 2006 16:15 GMT
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>
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>
> Actually quite good, as noted in my earlier post here.

Good compared to which carriers?
SMS - 04 Feb 2006 17:20 GMT
>> Actually quite good, as noted in my earlier post here.
>
> Good compared to which carriers?

Cingular has stated that they expect to "achieve industry-leading
metrics, including margins, by the end of 2007."

But Cingular wasn't the only carrier that posted less than stellar
results. Verizon had its usual spectacular results in terms of churn and
net additions, but had lower margins. This means less customers are
buying WAOs (worthless add-ons).
SMS - 27 Jan 2006 23:54 GMT
> The press release looks as if it were written for a high school newspaper.
> It certainly wasn't written with even the most basic investor in mind.
> Leading with churn,  using gross adds instead of net adds for the year and
> only mentioning a $4.71 ARPU figure as a big accomplishment is a pretty
> pathetic course to take.

No, not a $4.71 ARPU, an $4.71 ARPU for data. The real ARPU actually
fell, something they disclose later in the article.

ARPU is one of the key metrics that the carriers are looking at, now
that the market is becoming saturated, and net additions are beginning
to level off.

Higher ARPU depends on celling worthless services to people with too
much money, i.e. $1 ringtones, $2 audio files, and the sending of photos
with low quality cameras.

Many people thought that when Radio Shack added Cingular, and dropped
Verizon, that it would result in a lot more net adds for Cingular, but
things are not going well so far for Cingular at Radio Shack.

See "http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2006/mft06011213.htm"

"The drumbeat of disappointment grew as RadioShack's five-year
relationship with Verizon ended. In switching to Cingular, founded as a
joint venture between AT&T (NYSE: T) and BellSouth (NYSE: BLS),
RadioShack was banking on its status as the largest wireless carrier in
the country. That has not panned out as hoped; despite Cingular's 52
million customers, sales have been weak since the transition."

Talk to a Radio Shack franchise owner sometime, at a bar. They'll give
you an earful about the switch from Verizon to Cingular. It's affected
their sales volumes big-time. With Verizon continuing to top all surveys
for customer satisfaction in terms of quality of service, it's unclear
why Radio Shack would have dumped them, unless Cingular offered them a
really sweet deal.
John Navas - 31 Jan 2006 20:36 GMT
>> The press release looks as if it were written for a high school newspaper.
>> It certainly wasn't written with even the most basic investor in mind.
[quoted text clipped - 12 lines]
>much money, i.e. $1 ringtones, $2 audio files, and the sending of photos
>with low quality cameras.

It actually comes from selling more things that many people want to buy, not
just the things you personally disdain, but also things like wireless data,
which is why the Data ARPU is meaningful.

>Many people thought that when Radio Shack added Cingular, and dropped
>Verizon, that it would result in a lot more net adds for Cingular,

It may well.

>but
>things are not going well so far for Cingular at Radio Shack.

Only 11 days of initial experience make that more than a rush to judgement.
(The Motley Fool is more entertainment than serious investing.)

>See "http://www.fool.com/News/mft/2006/mft06011213.htm"
>
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>the country. That has not panned out as hoped; despite Cingular's 52
>million customers, sales have been weak since the transition."

<http://biz.yahoo.com/ap/060113/radioshack_stock.html?.v=2>
RadioShack Stock Up on Analyst Upgrade
RadioShack Stock Rises;
Prudential Upgrade to 'Overweight' Cites 'Groove' Return

  RadioShack Corp. stock rose Friday after Prudential analyst Mark
  Rowen upgraded his rating on the stock to "overweight" from "neutral,
  " saying that 2006 could be the year when the consumer electronics
  retailer "gets its groove back."

  Shares of Fort Worth, Texas-based RadioShack rose $1.38, or 6.4
  percent, to $22.87 in midday trading on the New York Stock Exchange.

  Rowen points to three reasons why he's upbeat about the stock. First,
  the initial phase of the transition to selling Cingular Wireless
  products instead of Verizon Wireless products is complete. That
  "significantly" lowers the retailer's operational risk, Rowen said.

  Second, the addition of Cingular nearly doubles RadioShack's wireless
  market opportunity to 15.5 million subscribers from 8 million, Rowen
  said.

  Although it's not clear whether RadioShack will be able to capitalize
  on the opportunity, Prudential is optimistic the retailer will, he
  said.

>Talk to a Radio Shack franchise owner sometime, at a bar. They'll give
>you an earful about the switch from Verizon to Cingular. It's affected
>their sales volumes big-time.

Their sales volume was in big trouble long before the Cingular deal, which is
part of the effort the turn the company around after a disappointing 2005 with
Verizon.

>With Verizon continuing to top all surveys
>for customer satisfaction in terms of quality of service, it's unclear
>why Radio Shack would have dumped them, unless Cingular offered them a
>really sweet deal.

Because you know better -- right?  :)

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