I carefully document how a Corporate Cingular store (Chimney Rock &
Westheimer in Houston, TX) is selling a "Made in China" no-name Car
Charger available elsewhere for $3.99 at the rip-off price of $29.99;
and the apologists break their arm patting Cingular on the back for
providing this service. Meanwhile the Genuine Sony car charger lists at
$19.99
Links documenting the pricing were in the Original Post.
Items
1. It was a Corporate Store. AND EVEN THERE A PROPER COVERAGE
MAP IS UNAVAILBLE, ONLY THE UNINTELLIGIBLE SMALL MAP OF THE U.S.
from which details of any city are invisible. The Houston area is
solid orange, omitting all the dead zones, some of which are in fact
being fixed>
http://onlinestorez.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/get-started/pop-cover
age.jsp?q_zip=77002
But those holes and myriad remaining never existed
according to all the maps from Cingular.
2. A 750 % + markup is a ripoff under any definition.
3. Chilidish Personal Attacks on the poster don't change Cingular's
Customer unfriendly behavior. Another Company store
didnt have in stock....Store didnt check whether
any other store might have in stock, didnt check if they were
getting any in soon, didnt offer to special order. Slightly west,
an AT&T Wireless Company store that had been converted
to Cingular badged store is now closed down.
4. I love my TiVo (HR10-250); and DirecTv is so much better than Cable,
SBC/Yahoo dsl is rock solid reliable and 1/3 the cost of RoadRunner.
So falsehoods about my only being negative are just baloney.
Here's positive about my new cell phone.
5. As I said, I now have a new Sony/Ericsson W600i, it's
everything the Rokr should have been was isn't.
It's an awesome phone, and I saved further, as:
A) It fits nicely in my "pouch" case that had held a v600.
B) I don't need a car charger as I can use the supplied Travel
charger in the AC plug in the dashboard of my car, and charge
the phone on its USB (supplied) cable at home.
C) Wont be charging it much anyway as its rated at
14 day standby time.
D) Freeware Macintosh iSync plugin works great. And it syncs
via Bluetooth.
E) Address book so much better than Motorolas, only one entry
when person has multiple numbers (home, cell, work, etc).
F) Built in FM radio tuner works great.
G) 1.3 Megapixel camera with Flash is great, supplied PC
software works better than extra cost Motorola Phone Tools,
loading MP3 or unloading pics is drag and drop.
USB data cable is supplied, not extra cost as with Motorola.
H) I think 256 Meg memory is more than the 5 Megs
my v600 has.
I) Ericsson phones allow bulk move of all contacts back and
forth from SIM to Phone, not painful manual one at a time
necessary on v600.
J) I get a $4/month discount on my Cingular service by allowing
combined billing with my SBC POTS and dsl.
K) W600i comes with 2 faceplates (orange & Dark Gray),
and many others are on eBay.
L) Simple transfer of address books between two W600i with
Infrared!
http://macncell.com/index_html/archive/2005/11/30/homemade-isync-plugin-f
or-sony-ericsson-w600i--w550i
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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 06 Feb 2006 13:25 GMT
In article
<jackzwick-3192D2.06441006022006@newsclstr02.news.prodigy.com>,
> I carefully document how a Corporate Cingular store (Chimney Rock &
> Westheimer in Houston, TX)
> . . . . .
>
> 1. It was a Corporate Store.
What the hell is Chimney Rock & Westheimer? Is that an address? Sounds
like a law firm (not to be confused with the law firm of Whiteman Small
Johnson).
And what, beyond your say-so, is your evidence that it's a corporate
store and not a reseller?
> 2. A 750 % + markup is a ripoff under any definition.
Nope. Not if people are willing to pay it. If the customer is happy
with it, that's all that matters. What do you care?
> 4. I love my TiVo (HR10-250); and DirecTv is so much better than Cable,
> SBC/Yahoo dsl is rock solid reliable and 1/3 the cost of RoadRunner.
> So falsehoods about my only being negative are just baloney.
Who said anything about that?
SBC/Yahoo DSL is also 1/3 the speed of RoadRunner.
Me, I get cable plus 6 megabit broadband for a total of $59.99/month.
Wired cable competition is wonderful.
Scott - 07 Feb 2006 01:37 GMT
<snip the whining>
So, Phil- when's the contract up? I should go back into the archives and
repost some identical posts you made about Sprint and then post the most
glowing compliments you had for Cingular when you switched.
I'm betting that they finally got sick of your games and stopped dealing
with you.
John Navas - 07 Feb 2006 03:30 GMT
>I carefully document how a Corporate Cingular store (Chimney Rock &
>Westheimer in Houston, TX) is selling a "Made in China" no-name Car
>Charger available elsewhere for $3.99 at the rip-off price of $29.99;
>and the apologists break their arm patting Cingular on the back for
>providing this service.
We're actually saying there's nothing wrong with charging for the convenience.
And there isn't. It's not a rip-off any more than charging $2 for a bottle of
water is a rip-off.
>Meanwhile the Genuine Sony car charger lists at
>$19.99
Plus shipping, which might well be significant. And you said it was that
price on the website, not necessarily the list price -- they might well be
different. Regardless, it's much more convenient to pick it up at a store
than to order it online and wait for it to arrive. There are lots of people
willing to pay for that convenience.
>Links documenting the pricing were in the Original Post.
>2. A 750 % + markup is a ripoff under any definition.
Nonsense, as I've explained, and that's not the markup in any event. You
clearly don't understand retail economics.

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Austinman - 07 Feb 2006 04:13 GMT
>I carefully document how a Corporate Cingular store (Chimney Rock &
> Westheimer in Houston, TX) is selling a "Made in China" no-name Car
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> But those holes and myriad remaining never existed
> according to all the maps from Cingular.
> 4. I love my TiVo (HR10-250); and DirecTv is so much better than Cable,
> SBC/Yahoo dsl is rock solid reliable and 1/3 the cost of RoadRunner.
[quoted text clipped - 3 lines]
> everything the Rokr should have been was isn't.
> It's an awesome phone.
As a V400 user myself I have to agree that the Sony is probably a vast
improvement, but as for DSL being better than cable, I don't think so. The
speed of cable is way ahead of DSL. Reliability is also another issue. I
know too many people who are amazed when I tell them that our cable modem
has sat at the back of a closet for the past year without even a re-boot.
Their DSL modems are typically restarted once or twice a week. It appears
SBC forces a renewal/change of the IP address so that you cannot use your
connection for a web server (etc.). My cable IP address never changes.
DSL may be cheaper, but there is a reason for that. As they say, you get
what you pay for; or not if you buy from a Cingular shop :-)