I have an old Cingular Nation plan - it is the 500/3500 for $49.99 plan.
Cingular now offers a 500/5000 Nation plan with rollover for $55.00 (I also
plan on upgrading to the Sony Ericsson t62u GAIT phone). Would the only
difference between my current Nation plan and the new one be the rollover
and extra night & weekend minutes (at an added $5/month)? In other words,
would I still be able to roam on all of the outside networks that I am able
to roam on with my current plan?
Thank-you for your time,
Michael Martz
blizzy01@sent.com
>I have an old Cingular Nation plan - it is the 500/3500 for $49.99 plan.
Cingular now offers a 500/5000 Nation plan with rollover for $55.00 (I also
plan on upgrading to the Sony Ericsson t62u GAIT phone). Would the only
difference between my current Nation plan and the new one be the rollover
and extra night & weekend minutes (at an added $5/month)? In other words,
would I still be able to roam on all of the outside networks that I am able
to roam on with my current plan?
>Thank-you for your time,
>Michael Martz
>blizzy01@sent.com
Be very careful. Cingular Nation was a better plan in the past,
in terms of roaming. They only offered it for a very short
time (though they made a really big deal about the lack
of restrictions).
Now the terms read:
"When the network of the Cingular preferred roaming carrier is
unavailable, customer may reach an intercept service allowing
the use of a credit card to pay for roaming. Calls requiring
the use of a credit card or operator assistance are additional
and do not apply to package minutes."
See if you can find out exactly who the preferred roaming
carriers are. Are they only GSM carriers or a combination of
TDMA and GSM and AMPS carriers? If you are in an area covered
by Cingular GSM or TDMA but where there is no Cingular signal,
can you roam to another carrier? I.e. if you are in California
and can't get a Cingular GSM signal, do they let you roam onto
AT&T's TDMA and AMPS networks, or are you out of luck?
I don't think you'll have any choice but to change to the newer
version of the plan if you move over to the GAIT phone, and the
only phones you can get with that plan are GAIT phones.
Steve
http://sfbacell.com
San Francisco Bay Area Cellular Carrier Comparison
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Michael Martz - 03 Jul 2003 12:56 GMT
I had the plan that had no restrictions anywhere. At times, my phone will roam on
the AT&T TDMA network (although this doesn't happen often). Do you think it will
still be able to do this with the new Nation plan and GAIT phone? I live in a TDMA
area, by the way.
Thanks!
Michael
> Be very careful. Cingular Nation was a better plan in the past,
> in terms of roaming. They only offered it for a very short
> time (though they made a really big deal about the lack
> of restrictions).
...
> See if you can find out exactly who the preferred roaming
> carriers are. Are they only GSM carriers or a combination of
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> and can't get a Cingular GSM signal, do they let you roam onto
> AT&T's TDMA and AMPS networks, or are you out of luck?
<< I have an old Cingular Nation plan - it is the 500/3500 for $49.99 plan.
Cingular now offers a 500/5000 Nation plan with rollover for $55.00 (I also
plan on upgrading to the Sony Ericsson t62u GAIT phone). >><BR><BR>
Get the GAIT phone and keep the awesome True Nation plan... I just did that
today myself --- do not give up the "no roaming", ever feature of the true
nation plan, it's just too worth it. I have never roamed in the U.S. and once
in Canada I used the phone all over (for a total of 39 calls for roughly 120
minutes and the roaming charges in Canada only equalled roughly an $18 charge).
On the preferred nation you will roam and they will extract pounds of flesh
from your account.
You can keep the True Nation plan and upgrade to the GAIT phone (and if you
are saavy with the customer service people, they will perk you for retention).
Don't give up that awesome plan unless you plan to keep the phone in just GSM
areas.
my 2 cents :-D
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Verizon User - 03 Jul 2003 06:16 GMT
What is cingular's upgrade policy/ If you upgrade the phone, are you
signing a contract for another year or 2?
Because, I also have the old no roaming plan, but I wish I had more minutes.
If i try to change anything on my current plan, they revoke my no roaming.
I was holding out for November, when the wireless portability act may allow
me to find a better carrier and then not have to lose my number (plus I
anticipate a bunch of deals around that time to woo new customers).
So thus, I want a new phone, but I dont want to lock myself in for another 1
to 2 years. Will I be able to get a new phone?
> << I have an old Cingular Nation plan - it is the 500/3500 for $49.99 plan.
> Cingular now offers a 500/5000 Nation plan with rollover for $55.00 (I also
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N W - 03 Jul 2003 06:38 GMT
There are new NATION plans out, but they are only for GAIT
handsets....they now get rollover and night and weekend minutes....AND
THEY ARE NOT THOSE PREFERRED NETWORK PLANS

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A polish misfit - 03 Jul 2003 08:39 GMT
<< handsets....they now get rollover and night and weekend minutes....AND
THEY ARE NOT THOSE PREFERRED NETWORK PLANS >><BR><BR>
But there aren't free of roaming charges, either... at least not on thenew
plan sheet I saw that the store received yesterday
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tom glaab - 03 Jul 2003 13:40 GMT
> There are new NATION plans out, but they are only for GAIT
> handsets....
I was looking at the rate plans for the Carolinas the other day and
the fine print specified a GSM handset, not GAIT. And they only have
local and nation plans.. no more nation preferred. Switched to the
(TDMA) DC market and it was different.
Bottom line is that you need to see what's available in YOUR market,
since Cingular still hasn't homogenized their network. Will be
interesting to see how things look this fall after the full GSM
cutover.
tg.
Paul Goelz - 09 Jul 2003 19:12 GMT
>Bottom line is that you need to see what's available in YOUR market,
>since Cingular still hasn't homogenized their network. Will be
>interesting to see how things look this fall after the full GSM
>cutover.
I just checked for the Detroit market and the ONLY nation plan shown
A) requires a GSM phone and B) calling it a "nation" plan is a bit of
a joke. There are whole states that are shown as "no service" with
nothing shown even as "future service".
Paul
Paul Goelz
Rochester Hills, MI USA
paul at pgoelz dot com
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Steven M. Scharf - 03 Jul 2003 14:24 GMT
> There are new NATION plans out, but they are only for GAIT
> handsets....they now get rollover and night and weekend minutes....AND
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Steven M. Scharf - 03 Jul 2003 14:26 GMT
> There are new NATION plans out, but they are only for GAIT
> handsets....they now get rollover and night and weekend minutes....AND
> THEY ARE NOT THOSE PREFERRED NETWORK PLANS
But there is now some fine print in the new Nation plan. Rather than being
able to roam on any network, there are caveats about having to use a
credit card to make calls on some networks. Was this same caveat
present in the past? It's possible, since not every network may have
had a roaming agreement with Cingular, or they may no longer have
roaming agreements with some carriers, especially in areas where they
provide coverage, no matter how poor.