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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / September 2003GAIT SIM in GSM phone
Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression this was possible. i ended up having to leave the store purchasing a new sim card and losing all my TDMA and AMPS coverage. This puts me back in the same situation i was in when i first got a cell phone 8 or 9 years ago. all i really wanted was to be able to use the t616 while in the metro area, and taking the nokia with me when i'm traveling, swapping the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any experience with this? Thanks for any advice. I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM only phones.  SignatureChris Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com Cambie <user@example.net> wrote in article <D65cb.479$CV7.682643789@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>: > Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i > picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any > experience with this? Thanks for any advice. > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM > only phones. Obviously when i am using the T616 i won't have any TDMA or AMPS coverage, but what i am wanting is to still be able to use my 6340i for areas where there is only TDMA or AMPS and no GSM. Essentially, I want to be able to pick and choose which phone i want to use when i leave the house in the morning and only have to stick the SIM card in the phone i choose and be off. The way I understood GSM, i thought i'd be able to get the T616 and just stick the SIM card from my 6340i in the T616 and it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info, much less change my plan. I've read here a number of problems with the 6340i SIM card in GSM only phones. The only logical conclusion is that the 6340i SIM contains all the TDMA and AMPS info which screws a GSM only phone. The 6340i will not operate at all without it's Sim card. SignatureChris Please respond on Usenet or Phonescoop.com Cambie <user@example.net> wrote in article <db9cb.174$5m5.173@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>: > > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM > > only phones. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info, > much less change my plan. > I've read here a number of problems with the 6340i SIM card in GSM only > phones. The only logical conclusion is that the 6340i SIM contains all [quoted text clipped - 15 lines] > > [posted via phonescoop.com] I've used my Nokia 6340i's GAIT sim in a Nokia 5190, and made a test call over T-Mobile. Cingular uses 800 MHz in Memphis, and I have Preferred Nation plan. The 5190 will get a longer test when I'm in a Cingular 1900 MHz GSM area, like Knoxville or Dyersburg, TN. The problems seem to arise when using the GAIT sim in a 1900 MHz phone, in a 800 MHz Cingular area. You're not on Cingular any more. John C. well cambie, i myself have a gait phone, and i work for cingular, so i can use all of the gsm phones i want, i frequently put my gait sim into gsm phones and i have never had a problem. Cambie <user@example.net> wrote in article <db9cb.174$5m5.173@newssvr22.news.prodigy.com>: > > I think you stated the reasons why: TDMA and AMPS-not involved in GSM > > only phones. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > it would work, without anyone having to even pull up my account info, > much less change my plan. Here's what happend to me, my GSM worked with my GAIT SIM when before the network went live. My GSM was 900/1800/1900. When the system went live on Monday that phone stopped working on Cingular's system. Now I find I need to buy a 850 GSM phone. I had my GAIT SIM replaced by a new GSM SIM. My T68i won't work now, but the GAIT phone still works, but only on GSM now. Does any of that make sense? > well cambie, i myself have a gait phone, and i work for cingular, so i > can use all of the gsm phones i want, i frequently put my gait sim into [quoted text clipped - 16 lines] > > [posted via phonescoop.com] No. I've heard of problems putting a GSM only SIM in a GAIT phone, but the opposite is supposed to work perfectly. Stu > Here's what happend to me, my GSM worked with my GAIT SIM when before the > network went live. My GSM was 900/1800/1900. When the system went live on [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > > > [posted via phonescoop.com] Did you make it clear to them that you wanted to retain your GAIT phone & capacities? Did you surrender your GAIT phone or its' SIM? Do you want both phones? Are you willing to run two contracts? Call customer services. The folks at the service stores usually don't know squat, and they can only go as far as they are authorized with any given contract. I got my GAIT phones from Cingular's Nashville center- for me it is a major upgrade. What limitations did you set on your service? As the first person stated the second phone is not a GAIT phone, so it could not live up to the expectations of a GAIT contract. While some folks say you can use a GAIT SIM in a regular GSM phone I will not recommend it. Your SIM chip software will tell your phone software to go fetch a service it cannot handle- the end result will be no service. As a temp back up that's okay. But some folks do it long term and then complain if they develop problems. Cambie <user@example.net> wrote in article <D65cb.479$CV7.682643789@newssvr11.news.prodigy.com>: > Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i > picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any > experience with this? Thanks for any advice. > Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i > picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > the SIM cards depending on which phone fit the occasion. Anyone have any > experience with this? Thanks for any advice. You can use your GAIT sim from your Nokia 6340i in another GSM only phone. Not sure why you got another sim, yours is fine. >>Why can't i use the SIM card from my 6340i in the Sony Ericsson T616 i >>picked up yesterday from the cingular store? i was under the impression [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > You can use your GAIT sim from your Nokia 6340i in another GSM only phone. > Not sure why you got another sim, yours is fine. i thought that too, except that the T616 wouldn't accept it. I thought i'd be able to open the box of the GSM only phone, pop in my 6340i SIM, and be ready to go. The 616 wouldn't accept it though. Then they weren't able to get the old SIM switched over to GSM only, so I had to buy a new SIM card. |
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