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Caller Id - Is this correct  ?

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Dale - 04 Apr 2006 16:17 GMT
According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4 different
phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of whose phone it
is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users name" that's
listed.
RobR - 04 Apr 2006 16:21 GMT
It shows the name of the person that holds the account at Cingular
(ie my cell phone shows up as my wife on caller ID because the bills
are in her name).

If you're calling a home or cell phone that has a phonebook in it,
and your family member names are in that phonebook, it will override
Cingular's CID though and show the caller name that's stored in
their phonebook under the incoming number.

> According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4
> different phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of
> whose phone it is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users
> name" that's listed.
Mark - 04 Apr 2006 16:55 GMT
Strange, I have the family plan with 4 phones and each has an
"assigned name", ie each family member associated with there
respective first names on there phone numbers and they all come up
separately on caller id.

>It shows the name of the person that holds the account at Cingular
>(ie my cell phone shows up as my wife on caller ID because the bills
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> whose phone it is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users
>> name" that's listed.
Dale - 04 Apr 2006 17:10 GMT
Hmm, I wish I had your strangeness Mark. But I've asked two different
Cingular people and I got the same answer both times. So you must have got
that "special" service

> Strange, I have the family plan with 4 phones and each has an
> "assigned name", ie each family member associated with there
[quoted text clipped - 14 lines]
>>> whose phone it is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users
>>> name" that's listed.
Mark - 04 Apr 2006 20:15 GMT
Maybe-:)  Then maybe because mine is a business account.  He'll i
don't know, but i do know that each line is separated.

My daughter (Jennifer) has one of the phones and calls us on our land
line all the time and it says "Jennifer xxxx", not "Mark xxxx".

Also on my bill it's got the names separated by phone number.

Sorry if you feel my info is bad.

>Hmm, I wish I had your strangeness Mark. But I've asked two different
>Cingular people and I got the same answer both times. So you must have got
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>>>> whose phone it is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users
>>>> name" that's listed.
RobR - 04 Apr 2006 20:26 GMT
Is there such thing as a business family plan?

> Maybe-:)  Then maybe because mine is a business account.  He'll i
> don't know, but i do know that each line is separated.
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>>>>> "users
>>>>> name" that's listed.
Mark - 04 Apr 2006 21:18 GMT
No, I cheat-:)

>Is there such thing as a business family plan?
>
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>>>>>> "users
>>>>>> name" that's listed.
Dale - 04 Apr 2006 20:55 GMT
When you say Business, do you mean it's tied into a corporate discount plan
? Like my company has with Cingular or do you mean you got the phones under
"Mark's Repair shop" and then added the family to that ?

I'm not sure why or where it makes a differences if it was a business
phone\plan or a standard plan. I suspect it's one of those things that they
could do if they wanted, but don't like to for some reason or another. Maybe
in your case they made an exception.

I don't think your info is bad, as I'm learning over and over with Cingular,
Every person you ask a question, you get a different answer. As others have
pointed out, sometimes it's just a matter of screaming really loud until you
get what you want, versus what they want you to have

> Maybe-:)  Then maybe because mine is a business account.  He'll i
> don't know, but i do know that each line is separated.
[quoted text clipped - 29 lines]
>>>>> "users
>>>>> name" that's listed.
Mark - 04 Apr 2006 21:23 GMT
Correct, it's a corporate discount business plan.  I don't know enough
about the repair business to open up my own shop.

In all honesty, it was set up this way many moons ago, while still
under the AT&T umbrella upon my request.  It didn't seem to be a big
deal then for it to be set up like this, I'm a little surprised that
it is now.

However, reading ahead on another post, it appears (once again) that
the tech department has no problems while the white shirts of the
group are clueless.

My comment on my info was tongue and cheek only and not meant any
other way.  Just passing along what i know to be facts on my side and
how my set up is.

>When you say Business, do you mean it's tied into a corporate discount plan
>? Like my company has with Cingular or do you mean you got the phones under
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>>>>>> "users
>>>>>> name" that's listed.
Dale - 04 Apr 2006 17:09 GMT
Thanks Rob, I knew the phonebook would override, I was mainly thinking about
the normal Land lines and such. I'm debating on whether I want to go with
Wireless caller or just leave my name. I don't overly care, other than it
just seems weird that can't do any better

> It shows the name of the person that holds the account at Cingular
> (ie my cell phone shows up as my wife on caller ID because the bills
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>> whose phone it is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users
>> name" that's listed.
jc - 04 Apr 2006 16:23 GMT
> According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4 different
> phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of whose phone it
> is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users name" that's
> listed.

I was told yesterday by "C" that the caller ID will say the persons
whoose name the acct# is in or you can request "wireless caller"
hope this helps
JC
Dale - 04 Apr 2006 17:07 GMT
Thanks, I guess that does answer my question, though I would think that with
the technology we have today, it wouldn't be that hard to make it have
separate names

> I was told yesterday by "C" that the caller ID will say the persons whoose
> name the acct# is in or you can request "wireless caller"
> hope this helps
> JC
Jeremy - 04 Apr 2006 17:56 GMT
> According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4
> different phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of
> whose phone it is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users
> name" that's listed.

No, that is incorrect.

When I signed up for three lines of service, under my business name, all
three of my Sprint phones transmitted their respective phone numbers,
followed by my business name.  I phoned and got a very pleasant woman at
Sprint, and I asked her if I could permanently block caller ID from being
transmitted on all outbound calls, and I explained that I did not want my
business name being sent out on my son's phone, etc.

She told me that Sprint could change the caller ID to transmit the names of
each respective user, and I gave her the list of which name should be
associated with each of the three lines.  She entered it into the system and
told me that it would take about 4 hours to propagate throughout the Sprint
network.

Sure enough, a few hours later we each tested our lines by dialing into our
home landline, which has caller ID, and our personal names appeared, rather
than my business name.  So I did not have to block outbound caller ID (the
Sprint rep mentioned that a lot of people don't accept blocked calls, and
that this might compromise my ability to reach people using my Sprint PCS
phone).  I ended up getting exactly what I wanted, thanks to a knowledgeable
and helpful Sprint rep.  I did not even know that it was possible for them
to make that change.

This took place about 2 months ago.  I assume that it is possible for any
multi-line account to request individualized caller ID information to
transmit on each of the respective lines.
John Navas - 04 Apr 2006 18:00 GMT
>> According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4
>> different phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of
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>When I signed up for three lines of service, under my business name, all
>three of my Sprint phones ...

This isn't the Sprint group -- it's the Cingular group.

Why are you still here?

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Kevin K - 04 Apr 2006 18:30 GMT
>  
> Why are you still here?
>  

I'd guess that he is still trying to convince himself that he made the
best choice for him.
bamp - 04 Apr 2006 18:51 GMT
>> Why are you still here?
>
> I'd guess that he is still trying to convince himself that he made the
> best choice for him.
>
> --

On my landline system the caller ID does not show. It says Cingular Caller.
..
bamp
Jud Hardcastle - 04 Apr 2006 21:10 GMT
> On my landline system the caller ID does not show. It says Cingular Caller.
> ..
> bamp

I don't even see that with Cingular in Dallas to my SBC landline -- just
"Wireless Call" and the cellular number.
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Jud
Dallas TX USA

John Navas - 04 Apr 2006 21:25 GMT
>> On my landline system the caller ID does not show. It says Cingular Caller.
>> ..

>I don't even see that with Cingular in Dallas to my SBC landline -- just
>"Wireless Call" and the cellular number.

Much depends on the services:

* Cingular may or may not be transmitting the name for a given number.

* Not all landline services support number and name -- some support only
number.

* Some landline services charge extra for the number and name, rather than
just number.

* You may be seeing a name on some incoming calls with number but without name
because the name is programmed into your Caller ID device for that number.

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Dale - 04 Apr 2006 21:48 GMT
To echo what John said, In Laurel, Maryland I would get the name and number
of the person calling (cell or land line). This was on Verizon. Here in
L-ville KY, which has Bellsouth, I also get name and number.

90 miles south og l-ville, they have Alltel, and even when a local person
calls on a cellphone, it always says Celluar Phone (or somehting like that)
while all other land line calls, show name and number.

Funny enough, one my cellphone, I'm listed as Dale M. White, while on the
girlfriend's phone I'm just listed as Dale White. So there is already a
difference in the 2.

> Much depends on the services:
>
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> name
> because the name is programmed into your Caller ID device for that number.
Jud Hardcastle - 05 Apr 2006 00:01 GMT
> >I don't even see that with Cingular in Dallas to my SBC landline -- just
> >"Wireless Call" and the cellular number.
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> * Some landline services charge extra for the number and name, rather than
> just number.

Yes, it's two seperate features with SBC Dallas--Caller ID Number and
Caller ID Name (although it's bundled together in several packages) and
I have both.  I get name and number for most everyone.

I just went back and looked at my current caller id list and plugged
some of them into fonefinder.net.  No conclusions.  Most, but not all,
local incoming "Southwestern Bell Wireless" calls are showing "Wireless
Call" but a *few* show the name.  A couple of Nextel callers showed
"Wireless Caller"; two Verizon Wireless calls show as "Unknown Name",
and every "AT&T Wireless" caller had both name and number.  Couldn't
find a Sprint caller.

> * You may be seeing a name on some incoming calls with number but without name
> because the name is programmed into your Caller ID device for that number.

No, my landline phones don't do that--even if they find the number and
use a custom ring they still show the original name.  But the cell
phones all do that.
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Jud
Dallas TX USA

Marty Fried - 04 Apr 2006 22:52 GMT
Back on Tue, 04 Apr 2006 16:56:47 GMT, while hiding out in
alt.cellular.cingular,"Jeremy" <jeremy@nospam.com> surprised everyone
by saying:

>> According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4
>> different phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>When I signed up for three lines of service, under my business name, all
>three of my Sprint phones ... [cut rest of dumb post]

Can you even read?  This is a Cingular group.  He's asking about
Cingular service.  You are the one who is incorrect (and not able to
read very well, it seems).  Why don't you go away already?

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John Navas - 04 Apr 2006 21:04 GMT
>According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4 different
>phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of whose phone it
>is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users name" that's
>listed.

This seems to be a common complaint.  Here's a report from one subscriber on
getting the correct Caller ID for each line:

  Keep at it till you find the right guy. Many have said it can not be done,
  even third level managers. But a guy from Cingular Data Tech : 8664902666
  did it in about 3 minutes time.

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Mark - 04 Apr 2006 21:23 GMT
>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
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>   even third level managers. But a guy from Cingular Data Tech : 8664902666
>   did it in about 3 minutes time.

This isn't surprising at all.
Cliff - 04 Apr 2006 21:57 GMT
> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE]
>
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>    even third level managers. But a guy from Cingular Data Tech : 8664902666
>    did it in about 3 minutes time.

That number has been disconnected.
Richard J. Wyble - 04 Apr 2006 22:10 GMT
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Dale \"Mad_Murdock\" White" <mad_murdock@noinsightbb.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 04, 2006 11:17:38 AM
> Subject: Caller Id - Is this correct  ?

> According to Cingular, if I sign up for the family plan and have 4 different
> phones, the caller ID will only show my name, regardless of whose phone it
> is. Is that normal ? Seems like it would show the "users name" that's
> listed.

I have three phones on a family plan, and my experience is
the same as articulated.  They were willing to change two of
the phones so they appear on caller ID as "WIRELESS CALLER,"
but they would not use the person's actual name -- either my
name of "WIRELESS CALLER," no other options.

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