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Cingular GSM "Total system failure"

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RHEEMSTER - 28 Sep 2003 02:53 GMT
My phone has been nothing more than a paperweight since about five Friday
afternoon.  My friend has a non GSM cingular phone and he is having no trouble
at all.  His phone is working just fine.  The really crappy thing is when you
call my cell phone you get a recorded message saying "The number you are trying
to call is not a working number."  So now everyone thinks I had my phone cut
off.  It seems to me they could of had the message say something like "Due to a
minor network setback your call will not be connected.  Please try your call
again later."  That I could handle but to word it like I had it cut off is just
shitty.
ParaG - 28 Sep 2003 03:54 GMT
I am having the same problem in Central Illinois....very annoying! I hope
they fix it soon and give me some form of compensation for my missed
appointments and inconveniences.

---ParaG

> My phone has been nothing more than a paperweight since about five Friday
> afternoon.  My friend has a non GSM cingular phone and he is having no trouble
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> again later."  That I could handle but to word it like I had it cut off is just
> shitty.
N W - 28 Sep 2003 04:07 GMT
Don't expect them to compensate anything except for the service fee.  A
lady came into  a store where a friend of mind worked and demanded to be
repaid for business cards after she canceled because of network
problems...she got handed a copy of the terms and conditions and
escorted out.

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Thanx,

N W

"ParaG" <IHateSpam@DontEmailMe.com> wrote in article
<70sdb.3679$u96.55904@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>:

> I am having the same problem in Central Illinois....very annoying! I hope
> they fix it soon and give me some form of compensation for my missed
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> just
> > shitty.
N W - 28 Sep 2003 04:09 GMT
I called tech support, It has something to do with one of the HLR's
failing, its causing havic all over the country....I'm starting to
wonder if someone ment to unplug their desk lamp and got the server by
accident.

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N W

"ParaG" <IHateSpam@DontEmailMe.com> wrote in article
<70sdb.3679$u96.55904@vixen.cso.uiuc.edu>:

> I am having the same problem in Central Illinois....very annoying! I hope
> they fix it soon and give me some form of compensation for my missed
[quoted text clipped - 18 lines]
> just
> > shitty.
John S. - 29 Sep 2003 13:22 GMT
>.I'm starting to
>wonder if someone ment to unplug their desk lamp and got the server by
>accident.

They aren't "plugged in" like a desk lamp. Their power is hard wired.

--
John S.
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totojepast - 29 Sep 2003 13:31 GMT
According to the Cingular job description available at
the Cingular's HLR was supplied by Ericsson. Is it true?

> I called tech support, It has something to do with one of the HLR's
> failing, its causing havic all over the country....I'm starting to
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>
> [posted via phonescoop.com]
Jer - 29 Sep 2003 14:23 GMT
> According to the Cingular job description available at
> the Cingular's HLR was supplied by Ericsson. Is it true?

According to that article, Cingular uses a variety of vendor
disciplines for HLR services.

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jer  email reply - I am not a 'ten'  ICQ = 35253273
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William Bray - 01 Oct 2003 00:48 GMT
Why is this still circulating?  Did you ask Cingular yet?

totojepast@atlas.cz (totojepast) wrote in article
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> According to the Cingular job description available at
> the Cingular's HLR was supplied by Ericsson. Is it true?
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> >
> > [posted via phonescoop.com]
Kevin - 28 Sep 2003 05:42 GMT
I just got off the phone with after hours tech support. The tech had me turn
our phones off and remove the batteries. After waiting about 30 seconds we
put them back in and Viola! we have service again. I don't know how or why
but three of our phones that had been useless all day are now working.

> My phone has been nothing more than a paperweight since about five Friday
> afternoon.  My friend has a non GSM cingular phone and he is having no trouble
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> again later."  That I could handle but to word it like I had it cut off is just
> shitty.
Tom - 28 Sep 2003 11:34 GMT
I just now (5:30am) powered mine off, waited about 2 minutes, then
powered back on.  Everything finally seems to be working here in
Nashville.  What's irritates me the most about this issue is the lack
of information/updates from Cingular.  You'd think that they could
have at least posted some form of system outage notification on their
web page.  I was completely pissed at having to wait on hold for 20
minutes yesterday just to hear "Oh, yeah, it's a nationwide problem
that's been going on all day."  Geez.  At least it's working.....for
now.

>I just got off the phone with after hours tech support. The tech had me turn
>our phones off and remove the batteries. After waiting about 30 seconds we
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>just
>> shitty.
Cambie - 28 Sep 2003 20:25 GMT
> I just now (5:30am) powered mine off, waited about 2 minutes, then
> powered back on.  Everything finally seems to be working here in
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>>
>>>shitty.

I've been powering mine on and off since Friday, having the same
problems as described above (when my phone is called, the caller is
greeted by a message saying it is not a working number). Sometimes, when
I power cycle my phone, it helps, but my service drops out again not
long afterwards. Cingular told me there was a fiber optic line cut that
knocked out five cell cites in the Austin, TX area. Now that i see other
people in other areas are having the same problem, i'm tempted to call
and bitch again.
Eddie Haskel - 28 Sep 2003 22:21 GMT
> > I just now (5:30am) powered mine off, waited about 2 minutes, then
> > powered back on.  Everything finally seems to be working here in
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> people in other areas are having the same problem, i'm tempted to call
> and bitch again.
Jer - 28 Sep 2003 23:07 GMT
[....]

> Now that i see other
> people in other areas are having the same problem, i'm tempted to call
> and bitch again.

I think everybody ought to hammer them repeatedly and raise holy hell.
 Personally, I don't think it was a fiber cut because the outages
cover a variety of markets.  This sounds more like failure with some
national support system.  But that doesn't matter, customers ought to
be certain their carriers know the drill in ways they couldn't
possibly misunderstand.

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John Cummings - 29 Sep 2003 01:56 GMT
> I just now (5:30am) powered mine off, waited about 2 minutes, then
> powered back on.  Everything finally seems to be working here in
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> >put them back in and Viola! we have service again. I don't know how or why
> >but three of our phones that had been useless all day are now working.

I have been visiting in Nashville this weekend and used my Nokia 6340i
extensively Saturday and Sunday. No trouble noted, but I could have been
on TDMA not GSM. Home for me and the phone is Memphis.

John C.
sfbacellexpert - 29 Sep 2003 19:55 GMT
"John Cummings" <n4bkn.no@spam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<lyKdb.5376

> I have been visiting in Nashville this weekend and used my Nokia 6340i
> extensively Saturday and Sunday. No trouble noted, but I could have been
> on TDMA not GSM. Home for me and the phone is Memphis.

TDMA service wasn't affected, so you must have been on TDMA.
GAIT phones seem like a good idea until the carriers get their
GSM networks fully debugged.
Cambie - 29 Sep 2003 20:14 GMT
> "John Cummings" <n4bkn.no@spam.bellsouth.net> wrote in message news:<lyKdb.5376
>
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> GAIT phones seem like a good idea until the carriers get their
> GSM networks fully debugged.

I was told TDMA phones were affected. TDMA and GSM networks were out
according to the rep i spoke to both on friday and saturday. Of course,
the also both told me they were local problems, not national.
Chris Russell - 28 Sep 2003 22:45 GMT
Here in the east side of the Detroit metro area, no problem with GSM
yesterday.  I was monitoring GSM service on my Nokia 6340i in field test
mode.  On Friday, it did go down for about 15 mins as I had ATTWS GSM as
I went by one Cingular tower at the Grosse Farms City Hall and Cingular
was back on 15 mins. later-might have been maintenance.  Either way
would have had service with my GAIT phone-ATTWS GSM or TDMA, T-Mobile
GSM, Microcell GSM or Bell Mobility AMPS from Windsor, On.

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rheemster@aol.com (RHEEMSTER) wrote in article
<20030927215309.16206.00000219@mb-m16.aol.com>:

> My phone has been nothing more than a paperweight since about five Friday
> afternoon.  My friend has a non GSM cingular phone and he is having no trouble
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> again later."  That I could handle but to word it like I had it cut off is just
> shitty.
Joe - 29 Sep 2003 04:29 GMT
i thought the gsm outages were over with about 1-2 hours ago they went
out.
this is totally unacceptable because they aren't even making the users
aware that they are having system problems people probally think they
are in a bad reception area or there phones are broken hehe but it
serves them come monday when the service departments open people will
be there by the thousands.(well those who don't call cingular before)
William Bray - 30 Sep 2003 04:16 GMT
Written in hide-site I must ask- Why didn't the CSR staff know what was
going on?  All this rebooting your cell phones when it was their
problem, not yours.  
The CSR protocol requires that you manually enter your cell phone
number, but someone had to be full of it not to let the CSR department
know what was going on.

rheemster@aol.com (RHEEMSTER) wrote in article
<20030927215309.16206.00000219@mb-m16.aol.com>:
> My phone has been nothing more than a paperweight since about five Friday
> afternoon.  My friend has a non GSM cingular phone and he is having no trouble
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
> again later."  That I could handle but to word it like I had it cut off is just
> shitty.
 
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