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Any way to retrieve Cingular cell phone email without a cell phone?
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Jerry - 09 May 2006 17:21 GMT Is it possible to retrieve email from Cingular's email server (mycingular.com or mms.mycingular.com or whatever) other than by using a cell phone? For example, if I was traveling and someone sent an urgent email to my cell phone email address (XXXXXXXXXX@mms.mycingular.com) and I didn't have my cell phone with me, could I use a computer to retrieve that email, either thru an email program or thru a Cingular email website, or is the only option to wait until I get home to retrieve the email with my cell phone? OR, what if you cancel your Cingular service and someone sends an important email to your (now inactive) cell phone's email address the day after your service is cancelled?...what happens to that email?...is there any way to ever retrieve it? Please post answers to this group?...thanks.
Jerry
John Navas - 09 May 2006 18:52 GMT >Is it possible to retrieve email from Cingular's email server >(mycingular.com or mms.mycingular.com or whatever) other than by using a [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >thru an email program or thru a Cingular email website, or is the only >option to wait until I get home to retrieve the email with my cell phone? Only on the website <https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net>; not with a POP3 email client.
>OR, what if you cancel your Cingular service and someone sends an important >email to your (now inactive) cell phone's email address the day after your >service is cancelled?...what happens to that email?...is there any way to >ever retrieve it? When it's closed it's gone.
Instead I recommend free Google Mail (Gmail), which can be accessed with: * Regular web browser * POP3 email client (computer or cell phone) * Cell phone WAP browser Too many good features to list. Highly recommended.
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Jerry - 09 May 2006 20:34 GMT I've been exploring that <https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net> website, and I'm not sure that we are talking about the same thing here...I see no link that would provide what I am seeking: My Cingular cell phone service automatically comes with an email address (mycellphonenumber@mms.mycingular.com), which people can use to send an email to my cell phone. I am wondering if there is any way to check THAT email on a computer if I don't have my cell phone with me.
>>Is it possible to retrieve email from Cingular's email server >>(mycingular.com or mms.mycingular.com or whatever) other than by using a [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >* Cell phone WAP browser >Too many good features to list. Highly recommended. John Navas - 09 May 2006 21:10 GMT Log in to "Manage your Wireless Internet", then click on "Email".
>I've been exploring that <https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net> >website, and I'm not sure that we are talking about the same thing [quoted text clipped - 29 lines] >>* Cell phone WAP browser >>Too many good features to list. Highly recommended.
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Jerry - 09 May 2006 23:58 GMT I registered and then logged onto "Manage your Wireless Internet", then clicked on "Email", which took me to Cingular Media's "Email Center", but the email address that it is displaying for me is username@mycingular.com instead of my cell phone's email address which is mycellphonenumber@mms.mycingular.com. I sent a test message to each of the above email addresses, and the one to my cell phone wasn't forwarded/transferred/etc. to the Cingular Media's "Email Center" username@mycingular.com email address. Are you sure that what I am wanting to do is possible? On the surface, at least, it appears that this Cingular Media's "Email Center" can retrieve messages sent FROM my cell phone but not TO it.
>[POSTED TO alt.cellular.cingular - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >>>* Cell phone WAP browser >>>Too many good features to list. Highly recommended. John Navas - 10 May 2006 02:36 GMT * "username@mycingular.com" is your Cingular Email account, which can only be retrieved from your phone by WAP (not POP3 or IMAP, so no Email client will work), or by means of the Web interface.
* "mycellphonenumber@mms.mycingular.com" is the Email to MMS gateway, used for sending MMS (not SMS) messages to your phone by means of Internet email. MMS messages are only delivered to the phone (i.e., cannot be retrieved on the Web or by any other means).
For more information, see <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ#How_Can_I_Send_Messages_to_Ci ngular_Phones_by_E-mail.3F> or <http://tinyurl.com/85ofh>.
To summarize:
* Email messages cannot be sent to a phone other than by Email to messaging (SMS or MMS).
* Email sent to your Cingular email address can only be retrieved by WAP or Web, although an SMS alert can be sent to your phone when a new message is received.
* The email client in the phone can be used to retrieve email from an Internet email server that supports the necessary POP3 or IMAP access, which Cingular email does not.
>I registered and then logged onto "Manage your Wireless Internet", >then clicked on "Email", which took me to Cingular Media's "Email [quoted text clipped - 43 lines] >>>>* Cell phone WAP browser >>>>Too many good features to list. Highly recommended.
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Stephen R. Conrad - 09 May 2006 22:46 GMT > Is it possible to retrieve email from Cingular's email server > (mycingular.com or mms.mycingular.com or whatever) other than by using a [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Jerry 1.Go: "https://www.cingular.com/media/media_net" with your web browser, 2. Log in 3. click on "email"
Steve
Jerry - 10 May 2006 00:08 GMT Does the cellphone have to be turned off for this to work? I mean...once the cell phone has already received that message (not even read nor deleted, just received), it is then too late to retrieve it via that Cingular website?
This is what I tried: I registered and then logged onto "Manage your Wireless Internet", then clicked on "Email", which took me to Cingular Media's "Email Center", but the email address that it is displaying for me is username@mycingular.com instead of my cell phone's email address which is mycellphonenumber@mms.mycingular.com. I sent a test message to each of the above email addresses, and the one to my cell phone (which DID arrive on my cell phone and I did not delete it) wasn't forwarded/transferred/etc. to the Cingular Media's "Email Center" username@mycingular.com email address. Are you sure that what I am wanting to do is possible? On the surface, at least, it appears that this Cingular Media's "Email Center" can retrieve messages sent FROM my cell phone but not TO it. The only thing I have not tried yet is to turn my cell phone OFF and then try emailing to it and then checking for that email on the Cingular Media Email site.
>> Is it possible to retrieve email from Cingular's email server >> (mycingular.com or mms.mycingular.com or whatever) other than by using a [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > >Steve John Navas - 10 May 2006 02:37 GMT Again:
* "username@mycingular.com" is your Cingular Email account, which can only be retrieved from your phone by WAP (not POP3 or IMAP, so no Email client will work), or by means of the Web interface.
* "mycellphonenumber@mms.mycingular.com" is the Email to MMS gateway, used for sending MMS (not SMS) messages to your phone by means of Internet email. MMS messages are only delivered to the phone (i.e., cannot be retrieved on the Web or by any other means).
For more information, see <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ#How_Can_I_Send_Messages_to_Ci ngular_Phones_by_E-mail.3F> or <http://tinyurl.com/85ofh>.
To summarize:
* Email messages cannot be sent to a phone other than by Email to messaging (SMS or MMS).
* Email sent to your Cingular email address can only be retrieved by WAP or Web, although an SMS alert can be sent to your phone when a new message is received.
* The email client in the phone can be used to retrieve email from an Internet email server that supports the necessary POP3 or IMAP access, which Cingular email does not.
>Does the cellphone have to be turned off for this to work? I >mean...once the cell phone has already received that message (not even [quoted text clipped - 39 lines] >> >>Steve
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Austinman - 10 May 2006 03:38 GMT In other words, save yourself a lot of heart ache and don't use the Cingular e-mail address. As, John suggested G-Mail is a good option, as is Yahoo (which I use).
Jerry - 10 May 2006 06:14 GMT My assumption would be that the advantage of using Cingular's username@mycingular.com email over Google must be that when an email is sent to the Cingular address, you can have an alert appear on your phone because it is of the SMS type, but you can't do that with the Google email? Just a guess on my part...I"m still over my head here.
>In other words, save yourself a lot of heart ache and don't use the Cingular >e-mail address. As, John suggested G-Mail is a good option, as is Yahoo >(which I use). John Navas - 10 May 2006 06:30 GMT >My assumption would be that the advantage of using Cingular's >username@mycingular.com email over Google must be that when an email >is sent to the Cingular address, you can have an alert appear on your >phone because it is of the SMS type, but you can't do that with the >Google email? Just a guess on my part...I"m still over my head here. Correct on both counts.
Another option is Yahoo Mobile email, which does support alerts. <http://mobile.yahoo.com/mobilemail>
>>In other words, save yourself a lot of heart ache and don't use the Cingular >>e-mail address. As, John suggested G-Mail is a good option, as is Yahoo >>(which I use).
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tmoran@acm.org - 10 May 2006 07:18 GMT > ..., you can have an alert appear on your > phone because it is of the SMS type, but you can't do that with the > Google email? Of course it's easy enough to set up a background task on a computer to periodically check if you have email and send you an alert text msg if so.
Jerry - 10 May 2006 06:05 GMT Thanks. I THINK I understand the system now. Based on that, is this correct:
1. Cingular charges fees for ALL incoming MMS ("cellphonenumber@mms.mycingular.com") emails, including SPAM, friends sending forwarded jokes, etc., whether I read them or not ("retrieval" is automatic, so I get charged for ALL of them whether I want them or not).
2. The only fees associated with any SMS emails sent to the "username@mycingular.com" email address would be charges for my WAP access IF I ever CHOSE to retrieve an SMS email in that way (via my cell phone). In other words...people could send all the SMS emails to me that they wanted, but unless I CHOSE to retrieve them via cell phone instead of via computer, no charges would be incurred ("No retrieval = no charges").
Jerry
John Navas - 10 May 2006 06:28 GMT >Thanks. I THINK I understand the system now. Based on that, is this >correct: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >is automatic, so I get charged for ALL of them whether I want them or >not). Correct.
>2. The only fees associated with any SMS emails sent to the >"username@mycingular.com" email address would be charges for my WAP [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >phone instead of via computer, no charges would be incurred ("No >retrieval = no charges"). 1. Those are regular email, not SMS or "SMS email".
2. You would (also) be charged for any SMS alerts.
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Jerry - 10 May 2006 18:28 GMT Again, thanks.
My conclusion from all this is that if a person wants to: 1. Have the OPTION of receiving wanted emails via his/her cell phone, AND 2. Also have the option of receiving these same wanted emails via his/her computer (either when his/her cell phone is not available, or to avoid any fees associated with receiving these wanted emails), AND 3. Does not want to ever have to pay for any incoming UNwanted emails to his/her cell phone...
...then the solution would be to:
1. Disable MMS email messaging, because it goes directly to the phone and you are therefore charged for ALL incoming MMS emails, wanted or not, AND 2. Use the Cingular Media, Google, Yahoo, etc. web-based email, and then only access this email via cell phone when you really need to, AND 3. If you need to always be notified immediately of all incoming emails, then set up your web-based email to alert you on your cell phone when any emails come in, OR...if you do not need immediate notification, then instead just tell your contacts to call you on your cell phone when their business with you or their email to you is urgent.
The only scenario I can think of where the above might NOT be the best plan would if the ratio of urgent to non-urgent emails per day for a user was so high that the cost of the alerts plus the WAP access to fetch the emails would exceed the cost of simply having them all arrive via MMS (where no additional alert is necessary)...but it would seem that this ratio would have to be VERY high in order offset the incurred charges for all of the NON-urgent MMS emails received. It would seem that once a person started disclosing their MMS email address to their contacts, their MMS email inbox would then start to look like their POP3 or web-based email box, complete with SPAM, unwanted forwarded jokes from friends, etc., and to "add insult to injury", they would be charged for all of these emails.
And another disadvantage of using the MMS email (if I understand it correctly...see below) would be that you would have to sacrifice having a "backup" copy of each email received (with web-based email the emails would exist on the server until you deleted them), so that if you broke or lost your cell phone, you would also lose any MMS emails that it currently contained. This doesn't happen every day, but if the email was an order or inquiry from a customer that doesn't get processed because the email disappeared along with your cell phone, it would only take one event like this to cost a user a lot of money and/or grief.
The validity of the last paragraph, above, depends upon the answer to this question: I think that I read in here somewhere that once MMS emails are sent to your cell phone, they no longer exist anywhere but inside of your cell phone at that point. If true...then if you break or lose your phone while it still has unread MMS email messages in it, are those emails not then lost forever (whereas the web-based emails would still exist on their servers)? OR do I have the facts wrong, and you have to actually OPEN or DELETE the MMS emails on your cell phone before Cingular's copy is deleted. Does Cingular's copy disappear as soon as the MMS email is successfully RECIEVED by your phone, or does it require action by the cell phone owner (opening the MMS email or actively deleting it) before Cingular's copy is deleted?
Jerry
John Navas - 12 May 2006 20:34 GMT >My conclusion from all this is that if a person wants to: >1. Have the OPTION of receiving wanted emails via his/her cell phone, [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >and you are therefore charged for ALL incoming MMS emails, wanted or >not, You may not be able to have just MMS disabled -- you might have to disable all messaging (SMS as well as MMS) -- I don't know for sure.
>AND >2. Use the Cingular Media, Google, Yahoo, etc. web-based email, and >then only access this email via cell phone when you really need to, If you use Google Mail (Gmail) as the mail host, retrieved email can be automatically archived for indefinite access by Web browser. Don't know about the other services.
>AND >3. If you need to always be notified immediately of all incoming >emails, then set up your web-based email to alert you on your cell >phone when any emails come in, Google Mail doesn't have alerts. Yahoo Mail does have alerts. Don't know about others.
>OR...if you do not need immediate >notification, then instead just tell your contacts to call you on your >cell phone when their business with you or their email to you is >urgent. Another option, if you have a suitable POP3 email client in your phone (as in the case of phones from Motorola and Sony Ericsson), is to configure that email client to download either headers or entire email at regular intervals. That would of course incur data charges, but unlimited data can be had for only $20 per month, and is handy for lots of other things as well.
>The only scenario I can think of where the above might NOT be the best >plan would if the ratio of urgent to non-urgent emails per day for a [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >unwanted forwarded jokes from friends, etc., and to "add insult to >injury", they would be charged for all of these emails. Spam filtering can help. Google Mail has very good spam filtering.
>And another disadvantage of using the MMS email (if I understand it >correctly...see below) would be that you would have to sacrifice [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >phone, it would only take one event like this to cost a user a lot of >money and/or grief. I think it's a big advantage to have a permanent archive copy, which is one of the reasons I use Google Mail.
>The validity of the last paragraph, above, depends upon the answer to >this question: [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >not then lost forever (whereas the web-based emails would still exist >on their servers)? Correct -- they would be lost forever.
>OR do I have the facts wrong, and you have to actually OPEN or DELETE >the MMS emails on your cell phone before Cingular's copy is deleted. >Does Cingular's copy disappear as soon as the MMS email is >successfully RECIEVED by your phone, or does it require action by the >cell phone owner (opening the MMS email or actively deleting it) >before Cingular's copy is deleted? AFAIK, Cingular doesn't keep copies of delivered MMS messages that would be available to the subscriber (even though it might keep copies for law enforcement purposes).
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Jerry - 12 May 2006 23:38 GMT You've provided me with the info I need to do what I want...thanks again, John. I will check with Cingular's site about the options for disabling MMS, and then check out Cingular Media and other web-based email sites to see how they rate on the other points below.
Jerry
You may not be able to have just MMS disabled -- you might have to disable all messaging (SMS as well as MMS) -- I don't know for sure.
Spam filtering can help. Google Mail has very good spam filtering.
If you use Google Mail (Gmail) as the mail host, retrieved email can be automatically archived for indefinite access by Web browser. Don't know about the other services.
Google Mail doesn't have alerts. Yahoo Mail does have alerts. Don't know about others.
John Navas - 13 May 2006 18:18 GMT >You've provided me with the info I need to do what I want...thanks >again, John. >I will check with Cingular's site about the options for disabling MMS, >and then check out Cingular Media and other web-based email sites to >see how they rate on the other points below. Register and login at CingularME.com, and you'll find an array of options for filtering incoming email-to-SMS.
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