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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / December 2006Phone comparison
Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones exceeds mine. In addition to the standard functions, I want a phone that includes these features: flip phone, GSM, quad band, Bluetooth, reasonably good camera, accepts miniSD (not critical), good sound quality. I'm not interested in games or music. I have been looking at the LG CU500, Nokia 6102i, Cingular Sync by Samsung (a707), Motorola RAZR V3, and Motorola V365. Any observations or recommendation would be most appreciated. HH >Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones exceeds [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] >6102i, Cingular Sync by Samsung (a707), Motorola RAZR V3, and Motorola V365. >Any observations or recommendation would be most appreciated. Motorola V365  SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >>question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Motorola V365 V365 is tri band - not quad. But I also recommend it. Bob >>>Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >>>question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Motorola V365 >V365 is tri band - not quad. But I also recommend it. V365 is quad band. <http://business.cingular.com/businesscenter/phones-devices/all-phones> SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > V365 is quad band. Not what it says here - http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=069265847be0f010VgnVCM100 0008206b00aRCRD&prodGroup=All+Phones&show=fullSpecification But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making? SignaturePeter Headland >> V365 is quad band. > > Not what it says here - > http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=069265847be0f010VgnVCM100 0008206b00aRCRD&prodGroup=All+Phones&show=fullSpecification > > But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making? I'm the original poster. I really don't understand the difference between tri-band and quad band. I want to use the phone in Europe and Asia. Would I be shorting myself somehow if I went with a tri-band phone? Would tri-band be as useable in those regions as quad-band? I'm lost/ HH >>> V365 is quad band. >> >> Not what it says here - >> http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=069265847be0f010VgnVCM100 0008206b00aRCRD&prodGroup=All+Phones&show=fullSpecification >> >> But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making? >I'm the original poster. I really don't understand the difference between >tri-band and quad band. I want to use the phone in Europe and Asia. Would I >be shorting myself somehow if I went with a tri-band phone? Would tri-band >be as useable in those regions as quad-band? I'm lost/ US bands: 850 and 1900 Non-US bands: 900 and 1800 Quad-band: 850, 900, 1800, and 1900 (good worldwide) Tri-band: 850, 1800, and 1900 (good for US) or: 900, 1800, and 1900 (good for non-US) SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >> V365 is quad band. > >Not what it says here - >http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=069265847be0f010VgnVCM100 0008206b00aRCRD&prodGroup=All+Phones&show=fullSpecification > >But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making? Maybe Cingular doesn't know what they are buying? ;) Motorola made both tri-band and quad-band V360 models. I'd be willing to bet the same is true of the V365. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>> V365 is quad band. >> [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Motorola made both tri-band and quad-band V360 models. > I'd be willing to bet the same is true of the V365. From what I understand, V365s sold in the US will have 850,1800, and 1900. Those sold in Europe or Asia it will have 900, 1800, and 1900. Offering a quad band would have been much simpler for everybody and avoided this confusion, but it seems the phone offers 3 bands that vary by location. Bob >>>> V365 is quad band. >>> [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] >Offering a quad band would have been much simpler for everybody and avoided >this confusion, but it seems the phone offers 3 bands that vary by location. Check the Cingular link I posted. It clearly says QUAD band. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >> V365 is quad band. > > Not what it says here - > http://www.motorola.com/consumer/v/index.jsp?vgnextoid=069265847be0f010VgnVCM100 0008206b00aRCRD&prodGroup=All+Phones&show=fullSpecification > > But maybe Motorola don't know what they are making? And here too: "http://www.phonescoop.com/phones/phone.php?p=969" It's a good phone for domestic use, be that domestic use in Europe and Asia (where it is 900/1800/1900) or in North America (where it is 850/1800/1900). But it's not a good world phone because in each case it lacks the most popular GSM frequency for non-domestic use. This type of phone is the older technology, from before the U.S. had 800 (or 850 MHz), and they couldn't offer both 850 and 900 MHz with the chipset they used. >>> V365 is quad band. >> [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >MHz), and they couldn't offer both 850 and 900 MHz with the chipset they >used. Open mouth. Insert foot. The Cingular link I posted clearly states QUAD band. Motorola made both tri-band and quad-band V360 models, even though its website only showed the tri-band model. This is marketing and microcosting, not technology. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>>> V365 is quad band. >>> [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > even though its website only showed the tri-band model. > This is marketing and microcosting, not technology. Here's a Cingular link that clearly says TRI, John: http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=true&q_pho neName=Motorola+V365&q_sku=sku200002 And one from Motorola, also: http://motorola.digitalriver.com/DRHM/servlet/ControllerServlet?Action=DisplayPr oductDetailsPage&SiteID=motostor&Locale=en_US&Env=BASE&productID=50457900 Perhaps you can give Cingular a call and straighten out what appears to be conflicting information at their site. Bob > Perhaps you can give Cingular a call and straighten out what appears to be > conflicting information at their site. There is (or was) a V360 Quad Band, as well as a V360 Tri-Band. Maybe the information on Cingular's web site, and/or PhoneScoop is wrong. It makes no sense that they would make a tri-band phone. I saw a reseller that was stating that it was quad band. The buyer should be very careful that if he goes with the V365 that he ends up with a quad band, if they exist. >>Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >>question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > Motorola V365 Do I read this discussion to mean that, to be sure that I have the best phone for use both in the US and abroad, I should stick with a quad band phone and not risk a tri band? If so, what about the LG CU500 or Cingular Sync by Samsung (a707)? HH >>>Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >>>question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >> >> Motorola V365 >Do I read this discussion to mean that, to be sure that I have the best >phone for use both in the US and abroad, I should stick with a quad band >phone and not risk a tri band? Yes. >If so, what about the LG CU500 or Cingular >Sync by Samsung (a707)? I would instead recommend a Motorola RAZR from Cingular, or an unlocked quad-band V360 from a 3rd party (e.g., on eBay). SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>> Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >>> question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > phone and not risk a tri band? If so, what about the LG CU500 or Cingular > Sync by Samsung (a707)? Definitely get a quad-band phone. The V365 is not quad band. >>>> Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >>>> question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] >>>> V365. >>>> Any observations or recommendation would be most appreciated. >>> Motorola V365 >> Do I read this discussion to mean that, to be sure that I have the best >> phone for use both in the US and abroad, I should stick with a quad band >> phone and not risk a tri band? If so, what about the LG CU500 or Cingular >> Sync by Samsung (a707)? > >Definitely get a quad-band phone. The V365 is not quad band. <http://business.cingular.com/businesscenter/phones-devices/all-phones/?_requesti d=764030> Motorola V365 The V365 is the first Motorola Push to Talk phone offered by Cingular. In addition to Push to Talk, the V365 also offers QUAD BAND coverage, Bluetooth, EDGE, a VGA camera, video capture & playback and more! [emphasis added] SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>>>> Please help me decide on a phone upgrade. I know that this is a basic >>>>> question, but I value the opinion of those whose knowledge of phones [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > coverage, Bluetooth, EDGE, a VGA camera, video capture & playback and > more! [emphasis added] On my V365 purchased in the US in November this year: MENU / SETTINGS / PHONE STATUS / OTHER INFORMATION / TECHNOLOGY: GSM: 850/1900-1800. The information at the cingular site is conflicting. John's link to the business section clearly says QUAD, yet other cingular links (see below) say TRI. And respected mobile phone review sites are saying TRI also. http://www.cingular.com/cell-phone-service/cell-phone-details/?q_list=true&q_pho neName=Motorola+V365&q_sku=sku200002 (Click on Specs) The phone may be capable of 4 bands at one time, but it appears that Motorola is setting up the phone with only three at a time, and using the bands needed for the region of the world in which it is sold. North America: 850 1800 1900. Europe and Asia: 900 1800 1900. I wonder if some enterprising hacker will find a way to unlock the 4th band, making the V365 a true world travel phone. Bob How about a Motorola v3i. It's a great little phone. Good camera, micr SD, and some extras. Maybe a v3r if your not looking to pay the v3i' price Motorola KRZR, but you'll have to wait a week or two for Cingular to start offering them, or buy an import. SignaturePeter Headland |
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