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New updates to free popular Java (J2ME) apps (Google Maps & Mail, Opera Mini)

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John Navas - 14 Feb 2007 18:25 GMT
[As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]

v1.4.4 of Google Maps for Mobile <http://www.google.com/gmm>

Significantly more stable than recent prior versions -- hasn't yet
crashed, and hasn't yet lost history data, but still loses bookmarks
unpredictably, so it's still not fully stable.  Worth the upgrade, and
very useful even with the bookmark issue, but still a work in progress.

v1.1.0 of Google Mail for Mobile <http://google.com/mobile/gmail>

Substantially more stable that v1.0.0 (which crashed frequently) --
hasn't yet crashed, and does an excellent job of handling email.
Excellent application.  Highly recommended.

v3.0.0 of Opera Mini <http://mini.opera.com>

Significant update that retains look and feel of prior version.
Wouldn't install if I preserved by existing bookmark data, so I had to
start over -- may not be worth the update if you've got a lot of
bookmarks.  Excellent application.  Highly recommended.

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Deputy Dog - 14 Feb 2007 21:54 GMT
> [As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
>
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> start over -- may not be worth the update if you've got a lot of
> bookmarks.  Excellent application.  Highly recommended.

John,

With, opera mini do you have to uninstall ver 2 before installing ver 3 or
Will ver 3 upgrade prior installs?

Dave
Kurt - 14 Feb 2007 22:27 GMT
> > [As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
> >
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> > start over -- may not be worth the update if you've got a lot of
> > bookmarks.  Excellent application.  Highly recommended.

How's Opera Mini compared to Blazer on a Treo 650?

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3Gfreak - 19 Feb 2007 02:37 GMT
> > > [As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
>
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Opera blows Blazer out of the water. No comparison!!

Have a good one.

3GFreak
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Kurt - 19 Feb 2007 02:50 GMT
> > > > [As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
> >
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> 3GFreak
> www.mobilevertigo.com

Cool. thanks for the tip. Will try.\

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John Navas - 15 Feb 2007 16:23 GMT
>> [As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]

>> v3.0.0 of Opera Mini <http://mini.opera.com>
>>
>> Significant update that retains look and feel of prior version.
>> Wouldn't install if I preserved by existing bookmark data, so I had to
>> start over -- may not be worth the update if you've got a lot of
>> bookmarks.  Excellent application.  Highly recommended.

>With, opera mini do you have to uninstall ver 2 before installing ver 3 or
>Will ver 3 upgrade prior installs?

I didn't have to uninstall v2 before installing v3, but as I wrote, v3
wouldn't install (due to an error) over v2 when I tried to retain the
data from v2 -- I had to _not_ retain the data from v2 to get v3 to
install successfully over v2, thereby losing all my bookmarks.

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John Navas - 15 Feb 2007 16:20 GMT
>[As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
>unpredictably, so it's still not fully stable.  Worth the upgrade, and
>very useful even with the bookmark issue, but still a work in progress.

UPDATE: Now that I've put more stress on GMM, I have to revise my
assessment of stability downward: it isn't much (if any) better than
other recent versions, and bookmarks are essentially unusable.
Reinstalling without retaining saved data did not help.  Wish I could
revert back to a much earlier version, before bookmark support was
added. :(

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Kurt - 15 Feb 2007 16:49 GMT
> >[As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
> >
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> revert back to a much earlier version, before bookmark support was
> added. :(

Works fine for me -never crashes.

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Don Udel (ETC) - 15 Feb 2007 17:59 GMT
added. :(

> Works fine for me -never crashes.

Same here on a Cingular 8125.  Works well with the Holux Bluetooth GPS as
well.

Don
John Navas - 15 Feb 2007 18:22 GMT
On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:59:11 -0500, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
<donudel@ellijay.com> wrote in <er271g0s6e@enews2.newsguy.com>:

> added. :(
>>
>> Works fine for me -never crashes.
>>
>Same here on a Cingular 8125.  Works well with the Holux Bluetooth GPS as
>well.

Apples and oranges:  The 8125 is a Windows Mobile device, not a standard
J2ME handset.

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Todd Allcock - 15 Feb 2007 21:31 GMT
> Apples and oranges:  The 8125 is a Windows Mobile device, not a standard
> J2ME handset.

That depends on which version the prior poster is using.  GMM for Windows
Mobile was only released two weeks ago.  I, until recently,  had both
versions installed on my T-Mobile MDA- the Java version and the WinMo.
Neither were as stable as Windows Live Mobile on my device, but that
could certainly be due (at least with the Java version) to the less than
stellar Java implementation on HTC Wizards (MDA, 8125, etc.)
John Navas - 15 Feb 2007 22:54 GMT
>> Apples and oranges:  The 8125 is a Windows Mobile device, not a standard
>> J2ME handset.
[quoted text clipped - 5 lines]
>could certainly be due (at least with the Java version) to the less than
>stellar Java implementation on HTC Wizards (MDA, 8125, etc.)

It's still a totally different implementation from the J2ME runtime in
typical dedicated handsets.

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Kurt - 15 Feb 2007 23:00 GMT
> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:59:11 -0500, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
> <donudel@ellijay.com> wrote in <er271g0s6e@enews2.newsguy.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 8 lines]
> Apples and oranges:  The 8125 is a Windows Mobile device, not a standard
> J2ME handset.

Treo 650 for me

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John Navas - 15 Feb 2007 23:07 GMT
>> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:59:11 -0500, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
>> <donudel@ellijay.com> wrote in <er271g0s6e@enews2.newsguy.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 10 lines]
>
>Treo 650 for me

Thus also apples and oranges:  The Treo 650 is a Palm OS device, not a
standard J2ME handset.

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Kurt - 16 Feb 2007 02:54 GMT
> >> On Thu, 15 Feb 2007 12:59:11 -0500, "Don Udel \(ETC\)"
> >> <donudel@ellijay.com> wrote in <er271g0s6e@enews2.newsguy.com>:
[quoted text clipped - 13 lines]
> Thus also apples and oranges:  The Treo 650 is a Palm OS device, not a
> standard J2ME handset.

I see your problem.

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Thurman - 16 Feb 2007 00:49 GMT
> [As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> unpredictably, so it's still not fully stable.  Worth the upgrade, and
> very useful even with the bookmark issue, but still a work in progress.

I can't get 'Track Location' (GPS) to work, can you?
John Navas - 16 Feb 2007 17:29 GMT
>> [As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
>>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
>I can't get 'Track Location' (GPS) to work, can you?

Doesn't exist in the standard handset version.

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Thurman - 18 Feb 2007 16:19 GMT
>>> v1.4.4 of Google Maps for Mobile <http://www.google.com/gmm>
>>>
>>I can't get 'Track Location' (GPS) to work, can you?
>
> Doesn't exist in the standard handset version.

1- Why does it appear in the drop-down box between 'Show Traffic' and 'Clear
Map'?

2- How does one obtain the non-standard version?

Interesting test trip yesterday of 250+ miles using the Cingular 8525 with
Streets and Trips 2006, Street Atlas USA 2007 Handheld, MSN Local.Live PDA
beta and Google Maps for Mobile. Every solution including TeleNav needs
assistance from another package. If I traveled everyday, for now I'd go with
TeleNAv for $10/month.
John Navas - 05 Mar 2007 15:10 GMT
>[As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]

>v1.1.0 of Google Mail for Mobile <http://google.com/mobile/gmail>
>
>Substantially more stable that v1.0.0 (which crashed frequently) --
>hasn't yet crashed, and does an excellent job of handling email.
>Excellent application.  Highly recommended.

Spoke too soon ...

Issue:  Letters can't be entered properly in Add Recipients Search

When trying to Compose mail, using the "To:" control to Add Recipients
from Contacts, the Search control doesn't work reliably; e.g.,
pressing the "3 DEF" key three times in rapid succession (to get the
letter "f") sometimes results in "f", but most often results in "ddd"
instead. This makes it essentially impossible for me to use the
Compose feature.

* Multi-press only seems to only work properly for the first Add
Recipients Search letter after Gmail Mobile has been started. From
then on it seems to consistently fail unless and until it is
restarted.

* I have a great many Contacts (over 600), which might have something
to do with the problem.

* Others have reported the same problem.

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John Navas - 05 Mar 2007 15:17 GMT
>[As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]

>v3.0.0 of Opera Mini <http://mini.opera.com>
>
>Significant update that retains look and feel of prior version.
>Wouldn't install if I preserved by existing bookmark data, so I had to
>start over -- may not be worth the update if you've got a lot of
>bookmarks.  Excellent application.  Highly recommended.

Updated again, this time to v3.1.0
Per the Opera Mini blog
<http://my.opera.com/operamini/blog/show.dml/769054>, some of the most
important changes:

New feature:

   * Manage RSS feeds

Newly supported devices:

   * T-mobile dash
   * Motorola i275, i850, i860, i870 (iDEN) - we will post more info
about this later

Network and connectivity:

   * Improved connectivity for devices that are forced to use IP
addresses
   * Improved connectivity for BlackBerry devices that uses the
carriers T-Mobile, Cingular and Vodafone
   * Better connectivity for Samsung and Sprint devices

 
Rendering fixes:

   * Better text rendering for Samsung BlackJack SGH-i607
   * Improved memory handling when using high quality images
   * New dialog window
   * Fixed overlapping texts in menu bar
   * Fixed menu bar height for letters with diacritic marks
   * Fixed favicon alignment

   
Input and key event fixes:

   * Dismissing dialogs works better on Motorola's
   * Fixed smooth scrolling for LG CU320
   * Soft key fix for Phillips 362
   * Various fixes for UIQ3 devices
   * Fixed issue with going back when holding the back key on Sony
Ericsson devices (easier to enter the native minimize menu)
   * Better key handling for Alcatel GlamPhone and OT-C750

Snapshot fixes:

   * Sony Ericsson Z520 - multiple permission dialogs fixed and better
resolution
   * Various Nokia models - stability improvements for snapshot
previews
   * Motorola A780 - made viewfinder visible again

Other fixes:

   * Fixed page loading errors for Sprint phones using Opera Mini Basic
   * ... and many more
Kurt - 05 Mar 2007 16:08 GMT
> >[As tested on my Motorola V551 (with latest firmware)]
>
> >v3.0.0 of Opera Mini <http://mini.opera.com>

Too bad they can't make it work for the Treo. Seems like a good
alternative to Blazer.

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