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200+ Kbps download for Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) (San Francisco Bay Area)

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John Navas - 06 Mar 2007 18:34 GMT
Downloading over Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) here in the San Francisco Bay Area
(San Ramon) continues to improve -- here's what I just saw for net
throughput on a large FTP download using a Sony Ericsson GC82 PC Card
(Class 10):

  Minimum: 21.7 KBytes/sec (174 Kbps)
  Maximum: 27.5 KBytes/sec (220 Kbps)
  Average: 25.4 KBytes/sec (204 Kbps)

Performance monitor screen capture: <http://i19.tinypic.com/48fpk5w.png>

UMTS/HSDPA would of course have been much faster.

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jbyrd - 09 Mar 2007 13:55 GMT
Routinely boring to get 150 Kbps throughput from
"free" VZW site. Packet I suppose. No data plan
needed. Nights and weekends free. Surf all night,
8:01 PM 5:59AM if you like. Old plan..

> Downloading over Cingular EGPRS(EDGE) here in the San Francisco Bay Area
> (San Ramon) continues to improve -- here's what I just saw for net
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>
> UMTS/HSDPA would of course have been much faster.
John Navas - 10 Mar 2007 00:03 GMT
I just moved up to HSDPA (using a RAZR V3xx), which does indeed make
that kind of speed routinely boring.  ;)  Haven't had time to do much
testing yet, but I've already seen over 500 Kbps throughput here in a
moderate signal area.

>Routinely boring to get 150 Kbps throughput from
>"free" VZW site. Packet I suppose. No data plan
>needed. Nights and weekends free. Surf all night,
>8:01 PM 5:59AM if you like. Old plan..

>> UMTS/HSDPA would of course have been much faster.

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dold@41.usenet.us.com - 02 Apr 2007 23:42 GMT
> I just moved up to HSDPA (using a RAZR V3xx), which does indeed make
> that kind of speed routinely boring.  ;)  Haven't had time to do much
> testing yet, but I've already seen over 500 Kbps throughput here in a
> moderate signal area.

Does this mean you would tether your new phone, instead of using the laptop
card?

Where did you buy yours?  I see Cingular has one for $39.99 with a 2 year
contract.

Have you tried the http://qode.com barcode reader with it?

(Today, I noticed that my connection has gone from GPRS to EGPRS, for the
first time in this area.)

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John Navas - 03 Apr 2007 00:35 GMT
>> I just moved up to HSDPA (using a RAZR V3xx), which does indeed make
>> that kind of speed routinely boring.  ;)  Haven't had time to do much
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>Does this mean you would tether your new phone, instead of using the laptop
>card?

Yep.

>Where did you buy yours?  I see Cingular has one for $39.99 with a 2 year
>contract.

That's what I did.  :)

>Have you tried the http://qode.com barcode reader with it?

Just tried it.  V3xx not officially supported.  Downloaded code for
supported V3x.  Works.

>(Today, I noticed that my connection has gone from GPRS to EGPRS, for the
>first time in this area.)

Cool.

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dold@41.usenet.us.com - 03 Apr 2007 01:14 GMT
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:42:10 +0000 (UTC), dold@41.usenet.us.com wrote in

> >Have you tried the http://qode.com barcode reader with it?

> Just tried it.  V3xx not officially supported.  Downloaded code for
> supported V3x.  Works.

There is a "window", where you key in a barcode that runs on my v551, and
the "reader", where you take a picture of a barcode with your camera.  Did
you get the camera version to do UPC lookups?

This looks like the new version of the cue-cat, which I thought was a
really cool thing... obviously not enough geeks in the world to hook the
free gadget to their computer, but "everybody" has a cellphone with a
camera.

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SMS - 03 Apr 2007 01:17 GMT
> This looks like the new version of the cue-cat, which I thought was a
> really cool thing... obviously not enough geeks in the world to hook the
> free gadget to their computer, but "everybody" has a cellphone with a
> camera.

I saw some Cuecats for sale over at Halted the other day. Radio Shack
used to give them out for free.
Todd Allcock - 03 Apr 2007 04:12 GMT
> I saw some Cuecats for sale over at Halted the other day. Radio Shack
> used to give them out for free.

True, and no one cared since they used a proprietary encrypted output.
Once the "hack" to remove the encryption surfaced (long after the Shack
stopped giving them away) they suddenly had "value" and surplus dealers
started selling them.

I still have my freebie I hacked long ago (IIRC, you just had to clip one
diode or resistor leg- it's been awhile!) and use it very occasionally.
SMS - 03 Apr 2007 09:15 GMT
>> I saw some Cuecats for sale over at Halted the other day. Radio Shack
>> used to give them out for free.
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> I still have my freebie I hacked long ago (IIRC, you just had to clip one
> diode or resistor leg- it's been awhile!) and use it very occasionally.

IIRC, the hack was available almost immediately. I remember opening mine
to hack it the day I got it. It was cutting one trace. I never remember
the USB ones being given away, just the serial ones.
Thurman - 03 Apr 2007 17:49 GMT
>>> I saw some Cuecats for sale over at Halted the other day. Radio Shack
>>> used to give them out for free.
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> to hack it the day I got it. It was cutting one trace. I never remember
> the USB ones being given away, just the serial ones.

Any one remember the name of Dallas guy with the cancerous ego that was
promoting them?

He turned out to have an 'e-curse' where anything he blessed was doomed.
SMS - 03 Apr 2007 18:13 GMT
> Any one remember the name of Dallas guy with the cancerous ego that was
> promoting them?
>
> He turned out to have an 'e-curse' where anything he blessed was doomed.

One of the people at
"http://www.digitalconvergence.com/news/press_room.html" I suppose.
John Navas - 03 Apr 2007 01:25 GMT
>> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:42:10 +0000 (UTC), dold@41.usenet.us.com wrote in
>
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>the "reader", where you take a picture of a barcode with your camera.  Did
>you get the camera version to do UPC lookups?

I tested "reader", and it worked (on a laptop screen image no less),
launching the browser, which wound up at the correct website.

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dold@55.usenet.us.com - 03 Apr 2007 19:24 GMT
> On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 00:14:46 +0000 (UTC), dold@41.usenet.us.com wrote in
> >> >Have you tried the http://qode.com barcode reader with it?

> I tested "reader", and it worked (on a laptop screen image no less),
> launching the browser, which wound up at the correct website.

I still have a a couple of the cue-cat things that plug in to a keyboard
port, and a java or something that reads it nicely.  I never did any
hardware hack.  But the cellphone is handier, and wireless.

I keyed in various UPCs with mixed results.  A Costco branded item wasn't
recognized, but said the root UPC was registered to a company... revealing
the Costco supplier?  It wasn't the name on the package.  Like an FCC-ID
on a Wifi card? ;-)

Other UPCs were recognized, and fired off my WAP browser to the registered
web site, which wasn't WAP viewable... a minor glitch in a WAP-oriented
product scheme.  Did your WAP viewer work, or did it invoke Opera or
something?  Lets see ... UPC  ...  There's a history, try it again... Hey!
It's viewable today.  Hmmm.

And how did they avoid the initial "confirm" message that I still get for
Google Maps?

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John Navas - 04 Apr 2007 01:44 GMT
>> On Tue, 3 Apr 2007 00:14:46 +0000 (UTC), dold@41.usenet.us.com wrote in
>> >> >Have you tried the http://qode.com barcode reader with it?
>
>> I tested "reader", and it worked (on a laptop screen image no less),
>> launching the browser, which wound up at the correct website.

>Other UPCs were recognized, and fired off my WAP browser to the registered
>web site, which wasn't WAP viewable... a minor glitch in a WAP-oriented
>product scheme.  Did your WAP viewer work, or did it invoke Opera or
>something?  Lets see ... UPC  ...  There's a history, try it again... Hey!
>It's viewable today.  Hmmm.

The browser in the V3xx is reportedly based on Opera, and is
considerable more capable than the typical WAP browser.

>And how did they avoid the initial "confirm" message that I still get for
>Google Maps?

I got a confirm message for the camera.
The browser is built into the phone, so there's no confirm message.

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dold@41.usenet.us.com - 19 Apr 2007 07:21 GMT
> On Mon, 2 Apr 2007 22:42:10 +0000 (UTC), dold@41.usenet.us.com wrote in

> >Where did you buy yours?  I see Cingular has one for $39.99 with a 2 year
> >contract.

> That's what I did.  :)

But,now there are colors!
Black, Gold, Platinum; $49, $79, $99.  (I missed the $39.)
Unless it's really Platinum, I can't see anything in the specs that makes
it worth twice as much.

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