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planetx - 26 Mar 2007 03:53 GMT
Currently what would everyone consider the best RF phone at Cingular?
I am leaning to the Motorola 365 because of the battery life "claims".
Is the RF good? Also is the RF pretty much the same on the billion
Razr models out there??
John Navas - 26 Mar 2007 03:57 GMT
>Currently what would everyone consider the best RF phone at Cingular?
>I am leaning to the Motorola 365 because of the battery life "claims".
>Is the RF good? Also is the RF pretty much the same on the billion
>Razr models out there??

The new Motorola RAZR V3xx beats all other GSM phones I've tried.

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sw - 26 Mar 2007 04:17 GMT
> >Currently what would everyone consider the best RF phone at Cingular?
> >I am leaning to the Motorola 365 because of the battery life "claims".
> >Is the RF good? Also is the RF pretty much the same on the billion
> >Razr models out there??
>
> The new Motorola RAZR V3xx beats all other GSM phones I've tried.

OMG, just because you bought a V3xx instead of a big dildo 3 weeks ago.
Again, it must be because of your "personal experience" instead of a
professional opinion.
Jack Mac - 26 Mar 2007 13:06 GMT
>> >Currently what would everyone consider the best RF phone at Cingular?
>> >I am leaning to the Motorola 365 because of the battery life "claims".
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>Again, it must be because of your "personal experience" instead of a
>professional opinion.

What don't you understand about the statement "phones I've tried"?
SMS - 26 Mar 2007 15:12 GMT
>>>> Currently what would everyone consider the best RF phone at Cingular?
>>>> I am leaning to the Motorola 365 because of the battery life "claims".
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> What don't you understand about the statement "phones I've tried"?

Right, it's like the commercials that claim "we know of no other product
as good as ours."
DTC - 26 Mar 2007 16:55 GMT
>> What don't you understand about the statement "phones I've tried"?
>
> Right, it's like the commercials that claim "we know of no other product
> as good as ours."

I'm going from memory here...its been like thirty years since I read it.

There was a book written in the late '50s(?) called *Life in the Crystal
Palace* by Alan Harrington that said, basically...

The company I work for has the best product, but if I go to work for the
competitor, they now have the best product.
SMS - 26 Mar 2007 17:43 GMT
> The company I work for has the best product, but if I go to work for the
> competitor, they now have the best product.

I've been in that exact situation.

I was visiting some customers in Taiwan and I was presenting on why our
product was the best choice for their application, and one of the
managers at the customer asked: "weren't you here a few months ago
saying why xxxxx's product was the best for us? Uh, yeah, but everything
has changed since then. I guess I did a good job as we were successful
in taking all the business away from my previous company!
Notan - 26 Mar 2007 18:44 GMT
>> The company I work for has the best product, but if I go to work for
>> the competitor, they now have the best product.
[quoted text clipped - 7 lines]
> has changed since then. I guess I did a good job as we were successful
> in taking all the business away from my previous company!

And you wonder why we don't like salesmen! <g>

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SMS - 26 Mar 2007 22:05 GMT
>>> The company I work for has the best product, but if I go to work for
>>> the competitor, they now have the best product.
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
>
> And you wonder why we don't like salesmen! <g>

I'm not a salesman, I'm a TME/AE. The customers don't believe anything
that the salesperson says, but they have more confidence in an
engineer's statements. When you do competitive analysis in front of a
customer, you assume that they probably know everything you're going to
say, the key is to address the strengths and faults of the product
you're pushing, as well as the strengths and faults of the competitors
product, but in a way that shows that the customers needs are better
served by your product.

In this case, it was trying to win the socket for an embedded processor
that was less integrated but that had much higher performance and lower
power. They gave up the lower parts count and the lower price in
exchange for higher performance and lower power. Once one customer
switched to a higher performance solution, it was not long before their
competitors were switching too.

It's great to see products that you worked on out in the world, either
in stores or in use. The bummer is when something you worked on ends up
at the electronics surplus store, selling for 1/1000th of the production
cost!

[Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular
posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away,
and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's
Wireless Service.]
sw - 26 Mar 2007 23:41 GMT
> >>>> Currently what would everyone consider the best RF phone at Cingular?
> >>>> I am leaning to the Motorola 365 because of the battery life "claims".
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> Right, it's like the commercials that claim "we know of no other product
> as good as ours."

Thanks. I rest my case.
DTC - 26 Mar 2007 07:17 GMT
> The new Motorola RAZR V3xx beats all other GSM phones I've tried.

But only if Navas owns the phone and used in the Bay are.
 
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