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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / April 2007TREO 650 Unlocking?
This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up mostly unlocking services. How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile? Is it necessary to change the software load on the phone to work with T-mobile's Tzones internet instead of Cingular's Media Net? Or do I just need to change gateway, etc? I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an alternate browser like Opera Mini. > This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up > mostly unlocking services. > > How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile? After several visits to cellular stores, one guy suggested mall cellular kiosks. A woman in a kiosk of the target cellular carrier provided the service for $35 for my Razr. >This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up >mostly unlocking services. > >How can a Cingular TREO 650 be unlocked to use on Tmobile? Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that way.  SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up >>mostly unlocking services. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Ask Cingular to do it. I just got the unlock code for my old V551 that > way. Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused. >>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up >>> mostly unlocking services. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > > Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused. Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band phone. My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving from Cingular to T-Mobile, but I was able to walk her through it using her IMEI. [Copied to alt.cellular.attws. Please post all alt.cellular.cingular posts to alt.cellular.attws as well. The Cingular name is going away, and alt.cellular.attws is the proper venue for posts regarding AT&T's Wireless Service.] >>>> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up >>>> mostly unlocking services. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] >prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad band >phone. All it actually takes normally is an account in good standing. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > Sometimes you can get Cingular customer service to unlock a phone, if > you give them a good story about going overseas and wanting to buy > prepaid SIM cards. This story usually only works if you have a quad > band phone. Canada and Mexico use 850 and/or 1900, so any Cingular phone can theoretically be used outside the US. > My mom couldn't get them to unlock her Nokia phone when she was moving > from Cingular to T-Mobile... I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching carriers... ;-) SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching > carriers... ;-) Duh! They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking north American phones is really not in their interest. >> I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching >> carriers... ;-) > >Duh! Actually makes no difference. >They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking >north American phones is really not in their interest. AT&T/Cingular will unlock any phone it has sold for an account in good standing. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > > I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you're switching > > carriers... ;-) > > Duh! > > They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking north American phones is really not in their interest. Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada, or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their international rates. Anyway, compared to (the old) AT&T's no unlocking for any reason ever policy, Cingular is rather generous. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost > revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada, > or an Orange SIM in the UK? Either way, I won't be roaming at their > international rates. They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S. >> Honestly, I don't really see a difference- either one is potential lost >> revenue for them. What's the difference if I use a Fido SIM in Canada, [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried >about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S. "They" (it) isn't worried about any SIM anywhere. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried > about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S. Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for them?" Arguably I'm far more likely to take a higher-end Cingular phone to T-Mo than an 850/1900-only phone that T-Mo would give me for free at signup anyway. Although I'm notplanning to leave T-Mo anytime soon, you can be darn sure I had them give me the unlock code for my $250 MDA PPC phone and my Symbian Nokia 3650 as soon as I\was ellugible. I've never bothered requesting the codes for my crummy Nokia 6030s however. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com >> They're not worried about the Fido SIM in Canada, what they're worried >> about is the T-Mobile SIM in the U.S. > > Using that logic, how is unlocking a quad-band phone any "safer" for > them?" I agree, but in their view the person asking for unlocking of a quad-band at least has a legitimate reason for the request that doesn't involve leaving Cingular for another carrier. A person asking for unlocking of a dual band phone probably isn't planning to use a prepaid SIM in Canada, Mexico, or any other part of North America that uses 850/1900, they're doing it to take the phone with them to another carrier. Since even parts of North America use 900/1800 MHz, a quad band phone is probably a good idea these days. Yep! Cingular is now unlocking, just like tmobile, after 90 days o service in good standing. I joined cingular Jan 3 and have requeste the unlock codes for my RAZR and L7, and received the codes in about days. An additional requirement is that international roaming be active o the account (don't know why). So, get the "no-fee" internationa roaming added first, then request the code. This is discusse extensively in howardforums SMS;685096 Wrote: > - > I suspect the trick is to unlock before you tell them you'r [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > They'll usually unlock world phones without a hassle, but unlocking > north American phones is really not in their interest -- mrcamp >Yep! Cingular is now unlocking, just like tmobile, after 90 days of >service in good standing. I joined cingular Jan 3 and have requested >the unlock codes for my RAZR and L7, and received the codes in about 5 >days. The 90 days is only for new service (and is often waived for good cause). For existing service (phone upgrade), no such delay is needed. >An additional requirement is that international roaming be active on >the account (don't know why). So, get the "no-fee" international >roaming added first, then request the code. This is discussed >extensively in howardforums International Roaming is not required for an unlock code. I just got one for a V551, and I don't currently have International Roaming on my account. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> >>>This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up >>>mostly unlocking services. [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] > >Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused. If your account isn't new and is in good standing, call Cingular Customer Care. SignatureBest regards, FAQ FOR CINGULAR WIRELESS: John Navas <http://en.wikibooks.org/wiki/Cingular_Wireless_FAQ> > Two Cingular stores and a Cingular dealer refused. Like with T-Mobile, customer service handles those requests directly. Local stores/dealers don't have access to the unlock codes. SignaturePosted via a free Usenet account from http://www.teranews.com > This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up > mostly unlocking services. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an > alternate browser like Opera Mini. Unless they have updated the Opera Mini recently, it does not work on a Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always crashed on startup. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" Kurt, wrote the following at or about 4/24/2007 10:08 AM: >> I have Tmobile on a RAZR now and I have the $5.99 Tzones, I was going >> to try that SIM on a Treo and see how well the internet works with an [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always > crashed on startup. Been using Opera Mini on my Cingular Treo 650 since early last year. Never had a problem with it Maybe it's time to take it off your phone and try a fresh install. > Kurt, wrote the following at or about 4/24/2007 10:08 AM: > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > Never had a problem with it Maybe it's time to take it off your phone > and try a fresh install. Will give it another go and see what happens. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" >> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up >> mostly unlocking services. [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Treo 650. I have a 650 and I got Opera Mini installed, but it always >crashed on startup. They have a version for it. Could you try it again, from mini.opera.com? Post your results. I am using opera mini on a Tmobil RAZR. It works, but as you can imagine very slow. > >> This has likely been discussed before, but a google search turned up > >> mostly unlocking services. [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I am using opera mini on a Tmobil RAZR. It works, but as you can > imagine very slow. Installed OK but crashes going to any URL (brief message saying ending user agreement) Though the installation process has been greatly improved since last time I installed it, I'll wait until they get the bugs out. Blazer still is the most bulletproof. SignatureTo reply by email, remove the word "space" |
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