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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / August 2004My new Cingular branded T616 is Unlocked!
I just found out today that my new T616 that I got from cingular is not locked!! woohoo!! but seriously, does anybody know if cingular is not locking their phones anymore? somehow i just don't beleive that! >I just found out today that my new T616 that I got from cingular is not >locked!! woohoo!! > >but seriously, does anybody know if cingular is not locking their phones >anymore? somehow i just don't beleive that! How can you tell your phone is unlocked? I belive all Cingular T616 are unlocked, hence the name "Worldphone". You can tell if your phone is unlocked by replacing the sim card with that of another carrier Ex. T-mobile and if you can make calls...well ur phone is also unlocked! > >I just found out today that my new T616 that I got from cingular is not > >locked!! woohoo!! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How can you tell your phone is unlocked? >I belive all Cingular T616 are unlocked, hence the name "Worldphone". You >can tell if your phone is unlocked by replacing the sim card with that of >another carrier Ex. T-mobile and if you can make calls...well ur phone is >also unlocked! will a cingular/t-mobile SIM-swap tell you anything in the areas where the two of them share infrastructure?  Signature_____________________________________________________ Knowledge may be power, but communications is the key dannyb@panix.com [to foil spammers, my address has been double rot-13 encoded] >I belive all Cingular T616 are unlocked, hence the name "Worldphone". You >can tell if your phone is unlocked by replacing the sim card with that of >another carrier Ex. T-mobile and if you can make calls...well ur phone is >also unlocked! I'm asking how *he* knows *his* phone is unlocked. Cingular is not in the business of unlocking phones anymore so I'm a little skeptical... >>I belive all Cingular T616 are unlocked, hence the name "Worldphone". You >>can tell if your phone is unlocked by replacing the sim card with that of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > I'm asking how *he* knows *his* phone is unlocked. Cingular is not in > the business of unlocking phones anymore so I'm a little skeptical... I know you are asking the original poster a question, but I do have some comments. If you pay and extra $150 for a World Phone, but Cingular has locked it, it is not a World Phone, it is a Cingular phone. It wouldn't make sense for Cingular to lock world phones, because then you could NEVER use the phone in another country with the exception of international roaming. AD It makes perfect sense for Cinguliar to keep world phones locked. Then, when you're roaming internationally, you are forced to use your Cinguliar SIM, roaming at $5/minute US. But if they are all unlocked, heck, I may take the plunge and get a T616. > >>I belive all Cingular T616 are unlocked, hence the name "Worldphone". You > >>can tell if your phone is unlocked by replacing the sim card with that of [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] > > AD > If you pay and extra $150 for a World Phone, but Cingular has >locked it, it is not a World Phone, it is a Cingular phone. It wouldn't > make sense for Cingular to lock world phones, because then you could >NEVER use the phone in another country with the exception of >international roaming. The locking of the phone only affects the ability to use other SIM cards - it doesn't affect your ability to use the phone internationally. Cingular always locks their GSM world phones so you can't use another company's SIM card (and service) in your Cingular phone. Cingular expects you to pay their international roaming rates, which are higher than most other US companies. They used to unlock them by request, but word is they recently stopped this practice. so does this mean that if I have an unlocked cell phone I can use i with any carrier, and the service provider wont know - thehappyhal In <thehappyhalf.1astt3@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> on Tue, 10 Aug 2004 19:31:55 -0500, thehappyhalf <thehappyhalf.1astt3@nospam.cellphoneforums.net> wrote: >so does this mean that if I have an unlocked cell phone I can use it >with any carrier, Any GSM carrier. >and the service provider wont know? The service provider will know. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular >>and the service provider wont know? > >The service provider will know. But won't pay any attention to the change of phone. And they do NOT care one way or the other. However, if you report the phone stolen, they can match the last phone/SIM combination and black list that particular phone. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >>>and the service provider wont know? >> >>The service provider will know. > >But won't pay any attention to the change of phone. True in general. >And they do NOT care one >way or the other. Not true -- Cingular will only support certain phones. >However, if you report the phone stolen, they can match the last phone/SIM >combination and black list that particular phone. Actually the phone's IMEI (International Mobile Equipment Identity), which is checked against the network's EIR (Equipment ID Register). SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular >>And they do NOT care one >>way or the other. > >Not true -- Cingular will only support certain phones. We aren't talking about support - where the user calls and says "How can I store a phone number on my phone?" - but we are talking about whether or not they care one way or the other what phone you are using. They do NOT care one way or the other! -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net >>>And they do NOT care one >>>way or the other. [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > >They do NOT care one way or the other! In short: They DON'T care if there aren't any problems. Otherwise, they DO care. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular >so does this mean that if I have an unlocked cell phone I can use it >with any carrier, and the service provider wont know? If you are talking about a GSM phone and a movable SIM - you are 100% correct. Any other technology is another story. -- John S. e-mail responses to - john at kiana dot net > I'm asking how *he* knows *his* phone is unlocked. Cingular is not in > the business of unlocking phones anymore so I'm a little skeptical... I know it's unlocked because i put an AT&T sim in it and was able to make and receive calls >>I belive all Cingular T616 are unlocked, hence the name "Worldphone". You >>can tell if your phone is unlocked by replacing the sim card with that of [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] >I'm asking how *he* knows *his* phone is unlocked. Cingular is not in >the business of unlocking phones anymore so I'm a little skeptical... I own two T616s which I purchased form Cingular. Both were unlocked when they were sold to me. I assumed this was because I paid full price for them, but if all T616s are sold that way then I guess that explains it. ;) SignatureSloth Kills! http://www.geocities.com/slothkills/ >>I just found out today that my new T616 that I got from cingular is not >>locked!! woohoo!! [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > How can you tell your phone is unlocked? hit <**< where the < means hit the joystick towards the left.that'll bring up a Personalize menu with a few fields, each having either a locked or unlocked symbol. that'll tell you. mine was unlocked as well, by the way. >hit <**< where the < means hit the joystick towards the left.that'll >bring up a Personalize menu with a few fields, each having either a >locked or unlocked symbol. that'll tell you. mine was unlocked as well, >by the way. Are all 5 lock icons unlocked? Especially Network and Network Subset? >>hit <**< where the < means hit the joystick towards the left.that'll >>bring up a Personalize menu with a few fields, each having either a >>locked or unlocked symbol. that'll tell you. mine was unlocked as well, >>by the way. > > Are all 5 lock icons unlocked? Especially Network and Network Subset? yep > I just found out today that my new T616 that I got from cingular is not > locked!! woohoo!! > > but seriously, does anybody know if cingular is not locking their phones > anymore? somehow i just don't beleive that! The T226 I got last week are locked. Since I signed a 2 year contract, it is pretty academic. |
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