I live in Canada and frequently travel to the US. For several years
I've used prepaid service (Boost Mobile originally, T-Mobile more
recently) using my own unlocked hardware and a locally purchased prepaid
SIM. I'm going through about 1400 minutes a year on my T-Mobile prepaid
plan right now.
However, my needs are changing and I am running into two problems with
my prepaid T-Mobile.
1) I'd like to have the option to use data services, which as I
understand it, rules out my T-Mobile prepaid service completely.
2) T-Mobile prepaid is great in urban areas, but when we were camping
last year in rural Idaho and Montana, I had solid Cingular coverage
(roaming, using my Canadian SIM) but no T-Mobile service at all. As a
result, we spent a little over $500 (at $1.35/minute roaming it adds up
fast) after a minor emergency which left us stranded in a campground
with no transportation for a time.
I would prefer to stay with GSM so I can continue using my existing
hardware and just swap SIM cards as appropriate.
In Canada, all of the cell phone carriers have unadvertised offerings
(no-contract offerings if you don't need subsidized hardware,
smaller/cheaper packages, or various other goodies thrown in)
Is this similar in the US?
Are there any prepaid services which allow data, or post-paid services
which I can turn on and off based on when I'm in the country?
Will I even be able to get a post-paid service since I have no US credit
history? I do have a business mailing address, and expect to pay via
preauthorized credit card.
Are there contract-less options if I supply my own hardware? I can't
find anything like this on either website, but with the nearest dealers
being at least a couple hundred miles away, I can't just pop in and ask.
Alternatively, if I can find a plan with a relatively low number of
minutes, I'd be happy to pay it year-round if I can save up rollover
minutes.
Let me know if you've got any suggestions, or if I've missed any
options.
SMS - 27 Jan 2008 02:13 GMT
> I live in Canada and frequently travel to the US. For several years
> I've used prepaid service (Boost Mobile originally, T-Mobile more
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> I would prefer to stay with GSM so I can continue using my existing
> hardware and just swap SIM cards as appropriate.
If you want AT&T's coverage (for voice) on prepaid, the best option is
to use 7-11 SpeakOut which is 15¢/minute, and uses the AT&T GSM network.
This is a lot more expensive than T-Mobile prepaid, but the coverage is
much better (but not as good as PagePlus CDMA). Note that you have to
buy it from a 7-11 in the U.S., the Canadian SpeakOut service doesn't
work in the U.S.. Also, you must buy a phone, they don't sell just SIM
cards, but you can use that SIM card from the phone in an unlocked
phone. They charge $1.25/month fee, and you have to add a minimum of $25
every 365 days. I keep a SpeakOut phone just for coverage checking so I
can keep my web sites on wireless accurate.
I know you want to stay on GSM, but you still might look into PagePlus
as it really suits your usage model.
With PagePlus prepaid (CDMA on Verizon) there is currently free (albeit
slow) QNC (14.4K) data but no guarantee on how long this free data will
last. See "http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?t=1271960".
However apparently PagePlus is planning to bring non-accidental, paid
data services to prepaid later this year (I guess if Verizon allows them
to sell EVDO data services). Obviously you don't want to do much web
browsing at 14.4K, but for occasionally checking e-mail it'd be alright.
PagePlus doesn't roam in Canada (at least not in Alberta).
The huge advantage of PagePlus is the rural coverage, both on CDMA and
AMPS. AMPS is still going to be around in rural areas long after the
carriers are permitted to turn it off next month. I've had PagePlus
service, either CDMA or AMPS in many rural areas where there was no GSM
coverage at all, and even just comparing CDMA versus GSM, barely a month
goes by where I'm not out in a national or state park somewhere where
there's no AT&T GSM coverage, but there is CDMA coverage. Last weekend I
was up in Lassen National Park, where there was CDMA coverage while XC
skiing, but no GSM coverage. I was surprised that I wasn't on AMPS as is
usually the case when in a U.S. national park. PagePlus is very
inexpensive, as low as 5.3¢/minute, though if you go off of Verizon
you're roaming at 59¢/minute (fairly rare, and you're warned by having
to double dial). You have to add a minimum of $10 every 120 days.
See: "http://www.prepaiduswireless.com/" for details on both 7-11
SpeakOut, and PagePlus.
DevilsPGD - 04 Feb 2008 08:23 GMT
>I know you want to stay on GSM, but you still might look into PagePlus
>as it really suits your usage model.
I'm really hoping to stay GSM for business travel so I can use my
existing PDA/phone, and for business I stay in urban areas with
relatively good coverage, but I would like to find a data solution.
That being said, I just picked up a new HTC TyTN II which has wifi, so
that combined with my T-Mobile prepaid SIM may have to do the trick for
the foreseeable future.
I may look into a pageplus CDMA+analog option for camping and whatnot in
addition to my prepaid service.
Thanks for the suggestions!
SMS - 13 Feb 2008 00:29 GMT
>> I know you want to stay on GSM, but you still might look into PagePlus
>> as it really suits your usage model.
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> I may look into a pageplus CDMA+analog option for camping and whatnot in
> addition to my prepaid service.
Yeah, a lot of GSM users get a PagePlus account for stuff like camping
and other travel outside the urban areas. It's cheap, and even with a
CDMA-only phone the coverage is far better than GSM, and when you add
AMPS the advantage is even greater. We'll see what happens next week
when AMPS can legally be turned off, but from what I've read in various
news stories, the rural carriers are keeping AMPS on for the time being
(despite grumbling about the cost of doing so).
I keep a GSM account just to keep my cellular-related web sites accurate
in terms of coverage differences, and I've been surprised with just how
little GSM has progressed in rural areas.
John Navas - 13 Feb 2008 02:03 GMT
>Yeah, a lot of GSM users get a PagePlus account for stuff like camping
>and other travel outside the urban areas. It's cheap, and even with a
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>news stories, the rural carriers are keeping AMPS on for the time being
>(despite grumbling about the cost of doing so).
The news stories have actually made it clear that AMPS is going to be
turned off rapidly.
>I keep a GSM account just to keep my cellular-related web sites accurate
>in terms of coverage differences, and I've been surprised with just how
>little GSM has progressed in rural areas.
You might want to try something other than an ancient single band phone.
If you want to be fair. Oh wait. I just got it.

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DevilsPGD - 14 Feb 2008 09:25 GMT
>I keep a GSM account just to keep my cellular-related web sites accurate
>in terms of coverage differences, and I've been surprised with just how
>little GSM has progressed in rural areas.
While I didn't have a CDMA phone around, I can tell you that Verizon had
no coverage at all at our favourite campground, based on the reviews of
a fellow camper -- I had five bars of Cingular/AT&T service (not that I
could access it with my T-Mobile SIM, but I could roam over at
$0.95-$1.70/minute with my Canadian SIM)
In fact, having roaming on both AT&T and T-Mobile, as well as 17 other
carriers, I have very decent coverage as a whole.
Patrick C - 27 Jan 2008 11:05 GMT
We use T-Mobile prepaid phones and a few years ago also picked up a used
Sidekick II on Ebay and use it only when we go on vacation buying a $10
refill card as needed. Trick is is to refill every 90 days otherwise you
loose your number. It has a browser and can get email from up to 3
accounts. The browser is kinda clumsy but we manage to check our portfolio
with no problem. It cost $1 / day but better than lugging the laptop
around.
Recently we picked up some new quad band phones from their web site which
have world band and the newer band that covers more areas in the US The
phone is the Motorola V195 s and can be seen on their website
www.tmobile.com under plans, prepaid, prepaid phones. It sells for $40 on a
web only deal but you get a free $25 refill card which we had to call for as
it never came with the phones.
>I live in Canada and frequently travel to the US. For several years
> I've used prepaid service (Boost Mobile originally, T-Mobile more
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> Let me know if you've got any suggestions, or if I've missed any
> options.