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Can't hear my phone ring

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Bob Niles - 19 Dec 2003 23:51 GMT
I am hard of hearing (especially higher frequencies) and have trouble
heaing my Nokia 6349i ring (or any other cell phone for that matter)

I have tried the different ring tones and have the ring volume set
high (5).  

Is there any device that I could add to give me a louder, lower
frequecncy ring?
Bob Clark - 20 Dec 2003 00:42 GMT
Don't feel bad.  The best suggestion I've received is to use an ear bud.  It
seems those of us who worked in high noise environments have lost our
ability to hear electronically generated high frequency sounds.  I could not
hear my 6340 and changed to a T62U, which while a little louder still cannot
be heard over background noise.  Manufacturers of these kinds of devices
have no concept of this high frequency hearing loss as all of the design
engineers are young enough not to have experienced gradual high frequency
hearing loss.  I think the ringing tones are generated by a piezo electric
device.

Bob
> I am hard of hearing (especially higher frequencies) and have trouble
> heaing my Nokia 6349i ring (or any other cell phone for that matter)
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> Is there any device that I could add to give me a louder, lower
> frequecncy ring?
Carl. - 20 Dec 2003 03:22 GMT
> I am hard of hearing (especially higher frequencies) and have trouble
> heaing my Nokia 6349i ring (or any other cell phone for that matter)
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> Is there any device that I could add to give me a louder, lower
> frequecncy ring?

Download Nokia's PC Suite and compose a ringer (will need IR port or data
cable):
http://www.nokiausa.com/phones/6340i

All of the musical ringers rarely have the lowest note used.  Compose your
own with the lowest frequency note, set the note suration to the shortest
possible, and increase the tempo to maximum.  On the 3390 this makes a lower
frequency buzz sound.

Or easier would be to find a friend with a Nokia that has the composer and
have them compose and SMS the new tone to you.
Carl. - 20 Dec 2003 04:07 GMT
> Compose your
> own with the lowest frequency note, set the note suration to the shortest
> possible, and increase the tempo to maximum.  On the 3390 this makes a lower
> frequency buzz sound.

And, you know, make a whole bunch of these in a row, which I left out of the
process.
Todd Allcock - 21 Dec 2003 18:43 GMT
> > Compose your
> > own with the lowest frequency note, set the note suration to the shortest
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> And, you know, make a whole bunch of these in a row, which I left out of the
> process.

It still might not help.  Nokia seemes to use a piezo element for the
ringer, which, frankly, sucks at reproducing lower frequencies.  I put the
Peter Gunn theme in my phone as a ringtone, and the baseline is virtually
inaudible except in a very quiet room.  I didn't realize the phone had been
ringing for 10 or 15 seconds when the brass part of the song would finally
kick in!

Low tones just don't reproduce well on these phones!  (Which surprises me,
since Nokia seems to be hawking phones at the hip-hop generation, who think
that bass a lead instrument!)  ;-)

"Hotwiring" the ringer to the earpiece might be an effective, if warranty
voiding, solution to the problem.
G R - 23 Dec 2003 03:50 GMT
> "Hotwiring" the ringer to the earpiece might be an effective, if warranty
> voiding, solution to the problem.

I hooked mine up to my 120-watt subwoofer but it's a pain to lug around.
Brian Oakley - 30 Dec 2003 21:33 GMT
I didnt see all the posts on this thread. Actually the phone, if its Nokia
should ring in the earpiece.Not exactly sure what kind of phone you are
using however.
B.

> > > Compose your
> > > own with the lowest frequency note, set the note suration to the
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> "Hotwiring" the ringer to the earpiece might be an effective, if warranty
> voiding, solution to the problem.
Jud Hardcastle - 31 Dec 2003 14:43 GMT
> I didnt see all the posts on this thread. Actually the phone, if its Nokia
> should ring in the earpiece.Not exactly sure what kind of phone you are
> using however.
> B.

No they don't--at least none of the TDMA models I've had nor the 6340i.  
Which is probably good--if you lost a call the phone could ring while
you still have the handset to your ear--could cause hearing damage.  (Do
polyphonic ringer phones have a 2nd speaker?)  If you look at any Nokia
model, somewhere along the side there will be a small slot or tiny
grill.  That's the ringer.  (The mic is another opening on the bottom
near the front edge.)  That's one of the reasons I carry the 6340i in
the belt pouch upside down--otherwise the ringer slot is covered and I
can't hear it.  

I had to make my own ringer tones to hear the phone at all.  I found
that the less complicated tones worked better--basically two or three
notes repeating at moderate tempo worked best for me--and as low a
frequency as the speaker would do.  There is no excuse for Nokia not to
have louder ringers--my last Motorola pager could be heard from 30
feet--and NEC pagers are even louder.  

And before anyone says it can be made louder via settings--the profile
is set to level 5 with no escalating ring--it even prompts you "do you
really want this volume".  BUT apparently the current chipset used by
Nokia ALWAYS does a mini-escalate--first "two" rings is at level 4 then
it goes to level 5.  I can hear level 5 rings fine--I can't hear level 4
rings 2 feet away from the phone.  See old thread on this subject for
more info on Nokia's always escalate "feature".

Jud
Dallas

> > It still might not help.  Nokia seemes to use a piezo element for the
> > ringer, which, frankly, sucks at reproducing lower frequencies.  I put the
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> > "Hotwiring" the ringer to the earpiece might be an effective, if warranty
> > voiding, solution to the problem.
Jer - 31 Dec 2003 23:47 GMT
> And before anyone says it can be made louder via settings--the profile
> is set to level 5 with no escalating ring--it even prompts you "do you
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> Jud
> Dallas

You too?  Then it really isn't just me.  :)

I hate that escalate feature!  If the damn thing is gonna wake me up, it
might as well go ahead and get on with it instead of pissing around.
More often than not, when I'm in the car, I know the phone is ringing
because the audio from the stupid in-dash radio starts buzzing with a
peculiar yet predictable sound.  By the time the ringer *may* have been
loud enough to be heard, I've already answered the call.

What's the matter with Nokia?  Are they afraid of intruding on someone's
nap while they're driving?  ;)

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AL - 01 Jan 2004 16:14 GMT
3595 has a loud ring, probably the best right now, I can hear from across
the room. I think it does ring through the ear piece though. The ring tone I
use is the low tone.

AL

> > I didnt see all the posts on this thread. Actually the phone, if its Nokia
> > should ring in the earpiece.Not exactly sure what kind of phone you are
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> > > "Hotwiring" the ringer to the earpiece might be an effective, if warranty
> > > voiding, solution to the problem.
Brian Oakley - 02 Jan 2004 02:48 GMT
I think I misunderstood you. I was thinking of an earphone, not the speaker.
I think earpiece would be the confusing term here. You might want to
consider using an earbud type of device. It will ring through that, and once
you get used to it, its pretty comfortable.
B

> > I didnt see all the posts on this thread. Actually the phone, if its Nokia
> > should ring in the earpiece.Not exactly sure what kind of phone you are
[quoted text clipped - 36 lines]
> > > "Hotwiring" the ringer to the earpiece might be an effective, if warranty
> > > voiding, solution to the problem.
Jer - 20 Dec 2003 13:19 GMT
> I am hard of hearing (especially higher frequencies) and have trouble
> heaing my Nokia 6349i ring (or any other cell phone for that matter)

And you're complaining?  Admit it, you're a lucky fella.

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Jack Mac - 20 Dec 2003 23:05 GMT
>> I am hard of hearing (especially higher frequencies) and have trouble
>> heaing my Nokia 6349i ring (or any other cell phone for that matter)
>
>And you're complaining?  Admit it, you're a lucky fella.

Can't the ring volume be adjusted on the 6349i? My 3595 can be
adjusted loud enough to be heard across the street! :) How about
vibrating, does the 6349i vibrate? Can you feel it?

Jack Mac
Jer - 21 Dec 2003 02:25 GMT
>>>I am hard of hearing (especially higher frequencies) and have trouble
>>>heaing my Nokia 6349i ring (or any other cell phone for that matter)
[quoted text clipped - 6 lines]
>
> Jack Mac

I don't like hearing ANY cell phone ring - ever.  Hence the reason mine
stays on vibrate.  The 6340i vibrate feature works well.

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