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Cingular Fast Foward

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Richie - 12 Jan 2004 21:47 GMT
Has anyone used Cingular FastForward service?

How does the cradle activate the service?  Is it possible to activate
FastForward using a combination of keys rather than inserting the phone into
the craddle?

Let me know.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 13 Jan 2004 00:00 GMT
> How does the cradle activate the service?  Is it possible to activate
> FastForward using a combination of keys rather than inserting the phone into
> the craddle?

No.
John W. Barron - 13 Jan 2004 00:57 GMT
Sure, no problem.  All you have to do is enter the sequence for call
forwarding.

However, you will still be charged for the minutes of use!  The cradle
has the information stored on chips inside, and forwards to your choice
of 3 numbers, selected on the cradle.  And, there are no minute charges,

>>How does the cradle activate the service?  Is it possible to activate
>>FastForward using a combination of keys rather than inserting the phone into
>>the craddle?
>
> No.
Elmo P. Shagnasty - 13 Jan 2004 02:54 GMT
> However, you will still be charged for the minutes of use!  The cradle
> has the information stored on chips inside, and forwards to your choice
> of 3 numbers, selected on the cradle.  And, there are no minute charges,

The cradle looks to the numbers programmed into the phone.  The forward
numbers (2 of them, not 3) are not programmed into the cradle at all.  
There *is* a button on the cradle to tell it which forwarding number, A
or B, to use--this is so you can have a cradle at work and a cradle at
home.

Remember, folks, this is just an investment on Cingular's part to get
you to stop giving out work/home numbers and just give out your cell
number.
Jer - 13 Jan 2004 04:36 GMT
>>However, you will still be charged for the minutes of use!  The cradle
>>has the information stored on chips inside, and forwards to your choice
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> you to stop giving out work/home numbers and just give out your cell
> number.

Somebody is bound to jump in here and ask why that is such a bad thing,
so before they do, why don't you get the jump on them?

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Elmo P. Shagnasty - 13 Jan 2004 12:06 GMT
> > Remember, folks, this is just an investment on Cingular's part to get
> > you to stop giving out work/home numbers and just give out your cell
> > number.
>
> Somebody is bound to jump in here and ask why that is such a bad thing,
> so before they do, why don't you get the jump on them?

I never said it's a good thing or a bad thing.  But if call forwarding
costs them any money, they're now giving it away for free in the case of
Fast Forward.  If they're investing that kind of money, it must be for a
long term return.  The only return they could get would be to condition
people to give out their cell phone number instead of their land line
numbers.

And the only reason for that is to increase their revenues down the road.

So just be aware of that when you buy Fast Forward.  Cingular's goal in
the end, down the road, is to get you to spend more money with them.  If
you want to, fine.  If you want to take advantage of Fast Forward while
it's free and dump it when it starts costing lots of money, fine.

But if you're the kind who can't NOT use a piece of technology, be aware
that you'll pay for Fast Forward in some way.  The obvious way is that
the ONLY number people will have for you down the road is your cell
phone number--which means EVERYONE who calls you will do so on that cell
phone, and you'll take it whether you're plugged into Fast Forward or
not.

And that could ramp up a large bill.  If you can't dump the technology
when it becomes too expensive for you, if you end up shuffing some of
your entertainment/communication/housing dollars away from somewhere
else in order to pay your Cingular bill, you're the target customer for
Cingular.
Todd Allcock - 13 Jan 2004 19:21 GMT
> In article <40034292.1050509@nc.rr.com>,
> The cradle looks to the numbers programmed into the phone.  The forward
> numbers (2 of them, not 3) are not programmed into the cradle at all.
> There *is* a button on the cradle to tell it which forwarding number, A
> or B, to use--this is so you can have a cradle at work and a cradle at
> home.

In your prior post, however, you said there's no way to activate the service
via a key sequence.  I doubt this.  I assume "Fast Forward" is simply a
billibg "trick"- i.e., if coustomer buys the cradle, and activates the FF
"service" for $3/month (or whatever) all calls forwarded to number A or B
are forwarded for free.  I seriously doubt that Cingular knows (or even
cares) if the forwarding was initiated by cradling or manually forwarding
the phone via the keypad.

I'm not suggesting you can get the service without buying the cradle from
them (since the cradle seems to be part of the criteria to qualify for the
free forwarding minutes), but I doubt you'd actually have to USE the cradle
itself.
Richie - 14 Jan 2004 02:43 GMT
Hi Todd,

That's what I was thinking as well.  I don't mind paying for the cradle, but
I think this is kinda stupid.  Why not simply activate Fast Forward (like
Call Forwarding) using a combination of keys?

By the way, you can cancel Fast Forward by doing   ##21# SEND.  So why not a
similar way to activate it?

> > In article <40034292.1050509@nc.rr.com>,
> > The cradle looks to the numbers programmed into the phone.  The forward
[quoted text clipped - 15 lines]
> free forwarding minutes), but I doubt you'd actually have to USE the cradle
> itself.
Jer - 14 Jan 2004 04:44 GMT
> Hi Todd,
>
[quoted text clipped - 4 lines]
> By the way, you can cancel Fast Forward by doing   ##21# SEND.  So why not a
> similar way to activate it?

You can do both by programming each function on a 1-touch key.

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Richie - 14 Jan 2004 04:53 GMT
Hi Jer,

How would I program my phone to 'FastForward' home without using the cradle?

I already ordered the cradle and will test it out when I receive it.

> > Hi Todd,
> >
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>
> You can do both by programming each function on a 1-touch key.
John W. Barron - 13 Jan 2004 22:47 GMT
I don't know what phone you are using.  The one I have has three number
potential, in the cradle base.  It is true that the number (cf1, cf2 and
cf3) have to be entered in the cell phone call directory.

>>However, you will still be charged for the minutes of use!  The cradle
>>has the information stored on chips inside, and forwards to your choice
[quoted text clipped - 9 lines]
> you to stop giving out work/home numbers and just give out your cell
> number.
Jud Hardcastle - 16 Jan 2004 01:45 GMT
> I don't know what phone you are using.  The one I have has three number
> potential, in the cradle base.  It is true that the number (cf1, cf2 and
> cf3) have to be entered in the cell phone call directory.

Where exactly in the directory, i.e. does it have to be on a one-touch
speed dial key?  My Nokia 6340i doesn't have assigned slots like mem+21
like my Motorolas did--only alpha searches--so seems like it would have
to be one-touch keys.
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Jud
Dallas TX USA

SBC - 19 Jan 2004 13:34 GMT
Just name it as in the instructions.  It is an alpha search (at least it is
on the Motorola GSM version).

> > I don't know what phone you are using.  The one I have has three number
> > potential, in the cradle base.  It is true that the number (cf1, cf2 and
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> Jud
> Dallas TX USA
 
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