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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Cingular / January 2004My experience with SE T616
I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish yet! Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality. However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead of icons (as in the manual). The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those control sound volume. However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and I could barely hear person on other side). In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so many different shotcuts using joystick, for example). After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular. I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I don't understand why they sell such crap as SE T616. Boris | I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to | charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish yet! The phone still says charging even after charging is complete. You have to simply look at the meter, or if you are charging with the phone off, when the red light on the joystick goes off. | Desktop is supposed to show icons for different groups of functionality. | However, in that phone desktop was showing some strange circles instead of | icons (as in the manual). The desktop isn't the front screen with all the circles. It is the screen accessed by pressing the joystick button from the wallpaper page. Pretty simple and explained clearly in the manual. The funny "circles" is the default cingular theme installed which is easily changed from within the theme menu from the desktop. | The phone has + and - buttons on the side. Manual seems to imply those | control sound volume. | However, I wasn't able to make sound any louder using those buttons (and I | could barely hear person on other side). The phone doesn't get extremely loud, but yes the buttons on the side do control the volume, but while in call only. | In addition, buttons functionality is heavily overloaded (there're so many | different shotcuts using joystick, for example). Unless you want a phone with 8 million buttons, thats what you get when you buy a high quality phone with tons of features. By the way, the joystick has only four shortcuts incorporated .... one for each direction. | After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular. | I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I don't | understand why they sell such crap as SE T616. The lack of understanding of such a high tech piece of equipment would lead anyone to think that <wink>. I hope you bought a featureless phone this time :-P | Boris I agree with Jason 100%. I have the same t616 and I couldn't be happier with its performance and easy to use. Boris, I think you might keep using regular phones.(No disrespect) Regards, Aa -------------------------------------------------------- > | I received the phone from Cingular. Manual says that it takes 4 hours to > | charge. However, I was charging it for ~12 hours and it didn't finish yet! [quoted text clipped - 38 lines] > > | Boris Thanks, After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much better phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people will never need). Boris > I agree with Jason 100%. I have the same t616 and I couldn't > be happier with its performance and easy to use. [quoted text clipped - 57 lines] > > > > | Boris | Thanks, | | After some research I decided to go with Nokia 3595. This seems much better | phone the SE T616 (if not overloaded with crappy features that most people | will never need). If all you need is the phone and not any other features, then th 3595 should suffice, even though it isn't quite as good at even being just a phone. As far as being a better phone, I whole heartedly disagree, as do most professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.). http://reviews.cnet.com/Nokia_3595/4505-6454_7-30471145.html?tag=pdtl-list "Solid call quality...strong battery life" is what I need. As I said, my SE T616 had LESS than solid call quality: I could barely hear person on other side during calls (and volume control buttons were of no use either). Boris > | Thanks, > | [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts > of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.). >| Thanks, >| [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] >professional reviews, but of course those are just opinions based on facts >of phone performance (rf, clarity, dropped calls, etc.). The 3595 has very hot RF performance, LOUD (if somewhat shrill) audio, a LOUD ringer, and excellent battery life. Most reviews/reviewers/postings on these features are in agreement. Its color screen sucks - poor implementation, dim, poor contrast, poor resolution. If all you need is the phone, it fits the bill extremely well and at low cost. > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular. > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I don't > understand why they sell such crap as SE T616. SE phones have never been great. Consumer Reports had the SE T616 in last place in their phone ratings, and gave special mention to the problems with the SE T62u. BTW, Consumer Reports rated Cingular as the worst carrier in the area, as did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had Nextel below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency. > > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular. > > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > did last year's Consumer Checkbook article (actually I think they had Nextel > below Cingular). You have a low standard for decency. Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work. Also, I had awful customer service experience with Sprint. 1st several months after service started they didn't charge me at all, but afterwards they started sending bills >1 time a month to compensate for that. So, I never knew if they were double-charging me or not. They also used to send me letters stating smthg like: We sent you a bill earlier, but please don't pay it because it was an error. Boris Correction: it was MCI - not Sprint. I subscribed over the phone using newspaper ad. It turned out some kind of joint venture between Sprint and MCI. Later, MCI customer service would tell me that my provider is Sprint, and Sprint C.R. - that it's MCI. I wasn't charged at all during 1st 6 mo. or so of service. But eventually, I started receiving bills from MCI. Boris > > > After 3 days I sent that thing back to Cingular. > > > I think Cingular is a decent carrier (at least in SF Bay Area). But I [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] > > Boris > Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse > actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work. You should have been able to roam onto Verizon, or onto AMPS up there, if you has a tri-band phone. > Also, I had awful customer service experience with Sprint. Yes, they are famous for their customer service. > > Besides Cingular I user Sprint Wireless in SF Bay Area. But it was worse > > actually. For example, at lake Tahoe my Sprint phone didn't work. > > You should have been able to roam onto Verizon, or onto AMPS up there, > if you has a tri-band phone. My current phone: Nokia which's ~1.5 years old - works fine at Lake Tahoe area (via Cingular). But I doubt that it's a GSM phone; it's probably TDMA. Boris |
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