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Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Ericsson / July 2003New Treo 180 for an Ericsson T39m
Hi, The Treo is a bit bulky in my opinion + my laptop doesn't have an IR port. So I decided to go for a smaller phone - the Ericsson T39m - and a USB bluetooth adapter. Anybody wants to barter with me? The treo is brand new, I just got a replacement from Tmobile after my previous one had problems with the speaker-phone function. Nice people at TMo, though a bit slow ;) You're also welcome to share your opinion about the T39 Thanks! miki. write to me directly at mikin@ipplanet.no.spam.com -- the hotmail account is full of garbage :-) > Hi, > The Treo is a bit bulky in my opinion + my laptop doesn't have an IR [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > You're also welcome to share your opinion about the T39 According to the reviews on epinions.com Treo is as buggy as my VisorFone and Sprint network/coverage/service sucks. Is T-Mobile operating on the same network as Sprint? I'm looking for a replacement for my VisorFone that actually works (does not miss 7-9 out of 10 incoming calls) and does not lose service for no good reason (is some moron rebooting Redmont Crappola Servers on any given sunday or something?) I need nothing fancy: decent (fast) input via grafitti or a decent keyboard like that found on Sony CLIE, address book, todo list and a phone (of course). Is there anything that works as a reliable phone? T39 won't cut it for me due to the typical crappy (slow) cellphone data input method (press your A once, press your A twice... A little bit of ...) Idially that thing has to sync to my Linux box but Windows will do also. >... T39 won't cut it for >me due to the typical crappy (slow) cellphone data input method >(press your A once, press your A twice... A little bit of ...) T9 input actually works quite well, or you can even get a chatboard.  SignatureBest regards, John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/> HELP PAGES FOR CINGULAR GSM + ERICSSON PHONES: <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > T9 input actually works quite well, or you can even get a chatboard. Hmm, I forgot I need calendar feature also. A phone won't work no matter what hack they'll implement for using numeric keys for entering text. I wonder is there something like Nokia Communicator, but no more than 5" tall and with touchscreen supporting stylys? I'm used to my visor (palm) touchscreen keyboard. I don't want a huge communicator running some oddball OS like Symbian. Is there anything like that or should I stick with visorfone for now? >> [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] >> [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] >no matter what hack they'll implement for using numeric keys for >entering text. Chatboard. >I wonder is there something like Nokia Communicator, but no more than 5" >tall and with touchscreen supporting stylys? ... Sony Ericsson P800 is about 4.5" tall. >I don't want a huge communicator running some oddball OS like Symbian. Symbian is mainstream in phones. SignatureBest regards, John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/> HELP PAGES FOR CINGULAR GSM + ERICSSON PHONES: <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > > Chatboard. What is chartboard? >>I wonder is there something like Nokia Communicator, but no more than 5" >>tall and with touchscreen supporting stylys? ... > > Sony Ericsson P800 is about 4.5" tall. Hmm, looks nice, but for $500+ I'll wait a bit for the prices to fall a little first. Is there an MP3 player in it and 128MB or 256MB memory sticks? >>I don't want a huge communicator running some oddball OS like Symbian. > > Symbian is mainstream in phones. Ok. >> Chatboard. >> >What is chartboard? Chatboard [no "r"]. <http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=ERICCHA101> >> Sony Ericsson P800 is about 4.5" tall. >> >Hmm, looks nice, but for $500+ I'll wait a bit for the prices to fall a >little first. Is there an MP3 player in it Yes. >and 128MB or 256MB memory sticks? It uses a small format stick, and you can use whatever size you want. SignatureBest regards, John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/> HELP PAGES FOR CINGULAR GSM + ERICSSON PHONES: <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Chatboard [no "r"]. <http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=ERICCHA101> Ugh, an ugly, ugly "solution" for a phone. No wonder it's discontinued. >>and 128MB or 256MB memory sticks? > > It uses a small format stick, and you can use whatever size you want. Ok. The reviews seem to praise the audio quality. Is there a stereo headfone+mike for it? >> Chatboard [no "r"]. <http://www.expansys.com/product.asp?code=ERICCHA101> >> >Ugh, an ugly, ugly "solution" for a phone. No wonder it's discontinued. It actually works quite well. It's probably discontinued because the supported phones have been discontinued. >>>and 128MB or 256MB memory sticks? >> >> It uses a small format stick, and you can use whatever size you want. >> >Ok. The reviews seem to praise the audio quality. Is there a stereo >headfone+mike for it? It comes with a stereo headphone. SignatureBest regards, John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/> HELP PAGES FOR CINGULAR GSM + ERICSSON PHONES: <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > It actually works quite well. It's probably discontinued because the > supported phones have been discontinued. Yes - it really is the only solution if you want a very small footbrint phone and alphanumeric input. Having said that my Chatboard is no longer used. I oscillate between a T39/Revo combination and a straight Treo. I might have stuck with the Treo except it doesn't support Line 2 which makes it useless for my main SIM. Whereas most cheap & cheerful phones support Line 2 - why not the 'sophisticated' products like Treo, P800 & Nokia Communicator? SignatureStuart > You're also welcome to share your opinion about the T39 I've had one of these since early 2002. and I'm pretty happy with it. The sound quality is very good. The flap and mike seems to pick up more wind noise than my old Nokia 5110 did. Battery life is acceptable, I charge about every 2 or 3 days. I have a Palm Tungsten T, and use that as a dialer with the T39m. I haven't been able to make the "Auto" Bluetooth function work, and in "On" mode, it seems to be draining the battery a little quickly. I do not have a Bluetooth headset, I'm getting one soon. It's a TriBand unit, so it works in Europe and with the new GSM networks in US. I'm using AT&T, and successfully used it in Sweden and Italy last October. I do not have a GPRS calling plan. I wil try to get my Tungsten to talk to it and use GPRS for light web browsing etc. The menu system is slow. Up to several seconds before the screen reacts. I needed to memorize the most common keytaps, the up and dows arrows and "Yes" button is a very slow way to navigate. Menus are not intuitive, that goes for all Ericssons, maybe the newer ones are better. T68i seems good. Cannot "Save" the number you just dialled... Have to write it down on paper, then go into address book to add a new entry.. Screen is smallish for Text messaging. Default ring tones are kinda boring. Not as many available tones as for Nokia. I have dropped it several times, typically you need to change the grip after pulling it from your pocket, before you can open the flap, and a little carelessness makes it fall out of your hand. One-handed opening is easy if you have the "correct" grip. The antenna pokes out on top, snagging pocket liner. A good case will probably help. I haven't found a good one yet in the US. All in all, a good workhorse. It has served me well, and I'm not replacing it any time soon. Foz >The menu system is slow. Up to several seconds before the screen reacts. Mine is pretty snappy -- perhaps you have old firmware. >I needed to memorize the most common keytaps, the up and dows arrows and >"Yes" button is a very slow way to navigate. Say what? >Menus are not intuitive, that goes for all Ericssons, maybe the newer ones >are better. T68i seems good. T68i has the same structure as the T39m. >Cannot "Save" the number you just dialled... Have to write it down on paper, >then go into address book to add a new entry.. Not true -- you can either set auto-save, or add it to a new phone book entry. >Screen is smallish for Text messaging. True, but damn sharp. >Default ring tones are kinda boring. Not as many available tones as for >Nokia. Ring tones are actually quite good. Mine rings to Bizet's Carmen. >I have dropped it several times, typically you need to change the grip after >pulling it from your pocket, before you can open the flap, and a little >carelessness makes it fall out of your hand. One-handed opening is easy if >you have the "correct" grip. How silly. >The antenna pokes out on top, snagging pocket liner. A good case will >probably help. >I haven't found a good one yet in the US. Get the Ericsson holster. >All in all, a good workhorse. It has served me well, and I'm not replacing >it any time soon. Arguably still the high water mark in compact, sophisticated GSM phones. SignatureBest regards, John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/> HELP PAGES FOR CINGULAR GSM + ERICSSON PHONES: <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:ry5Ra.2202 > >The menu system is slow. Up to several seconds before the screen reacts. > > Mine is pretty snappy -- perhaps you have old firmware. I do not intend to upgrade the firmware, and I still maintain it is slow. > >I needed to memorize the most common keytaps, the up and dows arrows and > >"Yes" button is a very slow way to navigate. > > Say what? Tapping "down"-2-2-2 for writing a new message instead of "down"-"down"-"yes"-"down"-"down"-"yes" and so on. > >Menus are not intuitive, that goes for all Ericssons, maybe the newer ones > >are better. T68i seems good. > > T68i has the same structure as the T39m. Ok, never actually tried one, I can just see that the screen has all sorts of icons on it. > >Cannot "Save" the number you just dialled... Have to write it down on paper, > >then go into address book to add a new entry.. [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > Ring tones are actually quite good. Mine rings to Bizet's Carmen. Hey, more power to you. I don't like any of them. I am using the "Popeye" theme. > >I have dropped it several times, typically you need to change the grip after > >pulling it from your pocket, before you can open the flap, and a little > >carelessness makes it fall out of your hand. One-handed opening is easy if > >you have the "correct" grip. > > How silly. I know. Never happened to any of my phones on such a regular basis since my first one in 1994 > >The antenna pokes out on top, snagging pocket liner. A good case will > >probably help. > >I haven't found a good one yet in the US. > > Get the Ericsson holster. Actually, I don't like the most common one, with the horizontal orientation, and 3rd party holsters are not very common, > >All in all, a good workhorse. It has served me well, and I'm not replacing > >it any time soon. > > Arguably still the high water mark in compact, sophisticated GSM phones. For my needs, I do not think I can do very much better. > "John Navas" <spamfilter0@navasgroup.com> wrote in message news:ry5Ra.2202 > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I do not intend to upgrade the firmware, and I still maintain it is slow. Then you have no-one but yourself to blame. Firmware upgrades are introduced primarily to counteract problems identified, this goes for any phone. If you are willing to continue with bug-ridden firmware, you really have no room to moan about it. <snip> > > >The antenna pokes out on top, snagging pocket liner. A good case will > > >probably help. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > Actually, I don't like the most common one, with the horizontal orientation, > and 3rd party holsters are not very common, Ericsson do/did make two official cases for the T39, one as you describe was fabric and oriented horizontally, the other was leather and operated as a holster. This was oriented vertically. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> http://www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< > >The menu system is slow. Up to several seconds before the screen reacts. > > Mine is pretty snappy -- perhaps you have old firmware. What firmware version you have? I heard there are some old, buggy phones out there and I don t want to get screwed... tnx, M |
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