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Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Ericsson / September 2004Bluetooth Net Access
I hope this is the correct group for questions about the Sony Ericcson Z600 I've got a home network, a mixture of wireless and wired accessing an adsl router. I've just bought a usb bluetooth adapter for my laptop running XP home, now I would like to give the Z600 access to my adsl connection but I am presently a bit confused as to what type of connection to set up. It seems to offer GSM which requires phone numbers or GPRS which I don't think is required. Anyone able to point me in the right direction for this? I appreciate I may have to bridge one of my NICs with the bluetooth device. Geoff Lane | I hope this is the correct group for questions about the Sony Ericcson Z600 | [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] | | Geoff Lane You can't. The connection types you asked about are for connecting the notebook to the internet using the phone, not the other way around. I'm not sure for Z600 but on p900 works like this. Create a dummy GPRS account then create a serial BT connection between phone and yor laptop and then try to start yor browser on the phone with the dummy account. It works also with infrared. Mario > I hope this is the correct group for questions about the Sony Ericcson Z600 > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Geoff Lane So what IP address would I give for the APN - would it be the router of the laptop's address? Geoff Lane > I'm not sure for Z600 but on p900 works like this. > Create a dummy GPRS account then create a serial BT connection between phone > and yor laptop and then try to start yor browser on the phone with the dummy > account. It works also with infrared. > > Mario > > I've got a home network, a mixture of wireless and wired accessing an adsl > > router. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > I would like to give the Z600 access to my adsl connection but I am > > presently a bit confused as to what type of connection to set up. > So what IP address would I give for the APN - would it be the router of the > laptop's address? > > Geoff Lane None. Just create an account without any settings and then when you launch your browser it will ask you what account do you want to use and you select dummy. I repeat this is how it works on p900 opera browser, I don't know for built in wap browser of your z600. I will try with t630 of my brother. Bye! Mario > > So what IP address would I give for the APN - would it be the router of > > the [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > dummy. I repeat this is how it works on p900 opera browser, I don't know for > built in wap browser of your z600. I will try with t630 of my brother. Thanks Mario, I'll give that a try tonight. What is the idea of the serial BT connection, obviously there is a connection via Bluetooth so what does the 'serial connection' do? Geoff Lane > > > So what IP address would I give for the APN - would it be the router of > > > the [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > What is the idea of the serial BT connection, obviously there is a > connection via Bluetooth so what does the 'serial connection' do? AIUI Bluetooth works by defining a set of "Profiles" for various tasks, the most common being... Headset profile For connecting a BT headset Handsfree profile For use with a handsfree car kit DUN profile For creating a dial up network connection over BT HID profile For stuff like BT mice and keyboards Obex Push profile For sending files between devices Serial profile Imitates a serial connection (sometimes called hard cable replacement) Synchronisation profile For synchronising PIMs and the like ...and so on, devices can understand 1, some or all of the available profiles depending on what the designers thought you would want to do with the bit of kit concerned. For any of it to work both bits of kit you are connecting must understand the profile that you want to use, so for instance, a BT headset would not be fitted with the HID profile because you're unlikely ever to want to connect a headset to a mouse. However something like a P900 would be fitted with the HID profile because you may want to connect a BT keyboard to it. I haven't tried it myself, but I would imagine that the BT serial profile is what allows a P900 fitted with Opera to surf the web via a host PCs ADSL connection. So if both your Z600 and BT dongle understand the BT serial profile, you may be able to set up a serial network connection between the two and hope the handsets browser can talk to it. Personally, I suspect you're going to be unlucky, a P900 needs an aftermarket browser (Opera) to be able to do this, the likelihood of SE building the capability into the Z600's browser is fairly slim.  SignatureCheers, Steve. Change from jealous to sad to reply. He will not be able to do it for two reasons. 1. Lack of an HTML browser 2. The phone does not support allowing a bluetooth network connection like the p900 does. That service has been intentionally disabled on the z600's bluetooth. > He will not be able to do it for two reasons. > > 1. Lack of an HTML browser Don't want to browse HTML pages - just curious if I can download POP mail to my phone and browse WAP pages via my Network connection rather than via GPRS. Geoff Lane | > He will not be able to do it for two reasons. | > [quoted text clipped - 5 lines] | | Geoff Lane With the network connection service disabled on the phone, I very seriously doubt it would be possible. I have tried several different ways, and have yet to figure it out. Of course that doesn't mean it can't be done. I just have not been able to, nor I have seen anyone on any forums being successful yet. The bulk of the problem has to do with the inability for the PC and phone to form a network connection between one another. It is possible over bluetooth. Unfortunately, that service is not available on our phones. I don't know if was disabled in the firmware, or just left off the bluetooth chip completely. > > I would like to give the Z600 access to my adsl connection but I am > > presently a bit confused as to what type of connection to set up. > I'm not sure for Z600 but on p900 works like this. > Create a dummy GPRS account then create a serial BT connection between phone > and yor laptop and then try to start yor browser on the phone with the dummy > account. It works also with infrared. Hmm, interesting - some posters are saying this is not possible but obviously you've got something working. I've not got my head around the purpose of this 'serial link' yet, I know it is a virtual link but why is it needed if the bluetooth connects? On your 'dummy' gprs account - what have you got for the APN, have you entered DNS vaules and also, have you bridged any network adapters? Geoff Lane www.winme15.de.vu > www.winme15.de.vu What's that all about then!!!! Geoff Lane > > www.winme15.de.vu > > What's that all about then!!!! > > Geoff Lane The pillock has been spamming newsgroups for about 5 days now, just KF the w.nker, everyone else has... SignatureCheers, Steve. Change from jealous to sad to reply. > > > www.winme15.de.vu > > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > The pillock has been spamming newsgroups for about 5 days now, just KF the > w.nker, everyone else has... Yup, but prior to shitlisting him, don't forget to send an abuse report to usenet-abuse@t-online.de :-) >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> http://www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> http://www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< > > > > www.winme15.de.vu > > > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > :-) Ah but Richard, if we all just KF the little cretin without sending the AR we don't get the spam and it's just possible that it's using a dial-up connection to send the spam. Then its's paying to send the spam yes it's is... With apologies to LOTR. SignatureCheers, Steve. Change from jealous to sad to reply. There is a discussion on this topic here: http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php?s=117bd6937f180719adbc4308f87538e6&th readid=341129&perpage=15&pagenumber=1 at Howard Forums. > I hope this is the correct group for questions about the Sony Ericcson Z600 > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Geoff Lane > I hope this is the correct group for questions about the Sony Ericcson Z600 > [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] > > Geoff Lane |
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