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Cellular Phone Forum / Manufacturers / Ericsson / September 2004Damn Vodafone/Ericsson K700i...
I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic quality of its camera... (anyways you guys can probably guess from the subject header WHY I am so pissed off...) Damn Vodafone! They have disabled the using MP3 as ringtone feature?! Is there are way around this? <=[BC]= > I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The > phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <=[BC]=> Buy a non-branded phone!!! > > I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The > > phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic > > quality of its camera... (anyways you guys can probably guess from the > > subject header WHY I am so pissed off...) Damn Vodafone! They have > > disabled the using MP3 as ringtone feature?! Is there are way around this? > Buy a non-branded phone!!! hey dude, got an unbranded k700i? wanna swap? <=[BC]= > I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The > phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <=[BC]=> Can you send files to your phone ie bluetooth dongle?? If so can you try somthing for me or anyone with a k700i rename the mp3 you want to copy to .mid send it to the phone try and assign it as a ringtone, I dont know if it will work, but I can play .mid files on my pc ok so dont see why it wont work Its a long shot but worth a try, I have left my dongle at work so cant test it, I only got my phone today as well :) Ronny www.fsplanes.net > Can you send files to your phone ie bluetooth dongle?? > [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > Its a long shot but worth a try, I have left my dongle at work so cant test > it, I only got my phone today as well :) neat idea... got me all exited for a sec here, but no, unfortunately it didn't work. The file copied over okay, and the phone recognised the file as a midi and all - it even allowed me to assign it as a ringtone... BUT, it wasn't able to play the file. Damn. <=[BC]= > > I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The > > phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > I dont know if it will work, but I can play .mid files on my pc ok so dont > see why it wont work can't do it like that, since on yr computer, it is windows media player u r using probably to play both mp3 files and midi files, so it takes care of it (though i've not tried it) but on the phone , the s/w are always limited and the piece of s/w that renders ringtone would not have codecs for playing mp3 files. > Its a long shot but worth a try, I have left my dongle at work so cant test > it, I only got my phone today as well :) > > Ronny > > www.fsplanes.net I found on the net a solution to the Vodafone debacle with the K700i and MP3s as a ringtone. 1. Go to the Nokia website (www.nokia.com) and download their PC Data Suite. One of the options is the Multimedia player 2. Use that to open up the MP3 file (or WAV) you want as a ringtone 3. Save as an AMR file type 4. Load this file onto your K700i and use as a ringtone. Viola - almost as good as the MP3. This should help those of us that have been Vodaf*#cked. On Fri, 10 Sep 2004 17:54:22 +0700, "§§§ Blue Ice §§§" <blue_ice_§§§@©®.com> wrote: >> > I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. >The [quoted text clipped - 33 lines] >> >> www.fsplanes.net > I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The > phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic > quality of its camera... Well it is only a cheapo VGA(640x480) rez camera, so what do you expect ? OK for picture messages, but not much else. You want decent pics ? Then get a proper multi-megapixel digital camera. > (anyways you guys can probably guess from the > subject header WHY I am so pissed off...) Damn Vodafone! They have > disabled the using MP3 as ringtone feature?! ...and all the Vodafone Live butchery. > Is there are way around this? Change it for a *non-branded* k700i.  SignatureMichael Turner Email (ROT13) zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg >> I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The >> phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > >You want decent pics ? Then get a proper multi-megapixel digital camera. The number of pixels isn't the issue -- it's the crappy lens and sensor. SignatureBest regards, HELP FOR CINGULAR GSM & SONY ERICSSON PHONES: John Navas <http://navasgrp.home.att.net/#Cingular > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > > The number of pixels isn't the issue -- it's the crappy lens and sensor. ... or even all three... crappy lens, crappy sensor, and low rez. SignatureMichael Turner Email (ROT13) zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg > > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > ... or even all three... crappy lens, crappy sensor, and low rez. I got a the same phone on Vodaphone and am taking it back bue to the fact its not what was advertised. You don't buy a car and then sudddenly they remove the seats. Why should I get a phone with none of the features that were advertised >> > [POSTED TO alt.cellular.ericsson - REPLY ON USENET PLEASE] >> > [quoted text clipped - 19 lines] > I got a the same phone on Vodaphone and am taking it back bue to the fact > its not what was advertised. It is as advertized, you get a phone with a built-in camera. > You don't buy a car and then sudddenly they > remove the seats. Why should I get a phone with none of the features that > were advertised The wording Vodafone used on the advertizing for the k700i is 'Built in digital camera', and that's exactly what you got. So to use your analogy. No seats have been removed from the car, it's just that the seats you actually get are crap ;-) Just like the camera in the k700i. SignatureMichael Turner Email (ROT13) zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg >> I got a the same phone on Vodaphone and am taking it back bue to the fact >> its not what was advertised. [quoted text clipped - 11 lines] > that the seats you actually get are crap ;-) Just like the camera in the > k700i. The camera in the k700i is infect very good, its certainly alot better then all the other sub 1mp phones, it has a nice clear display, a big screen, it does everything you could ever want from a phone. If you want an ugly phone then go for the 1mp nokia 7610, it has more features but looks like shite. The phone is not as advertised by Sony Ericsson, I see no mention of Vodafone advertising anywhere? The features have been removed because Vodafone want to cash in on its customers and make them use Live to get ringtones, rather then using your own, unfortunately this has backfired on them and are now having loads of phones returned to them as they are not working as they should be. If you don't like the K700i Michael then that is your opinion, but the phone has had great reviews and is IMO the best looking and feature packed phone out there. Ronny >>> I got a the same phone on Vodaphone and am taking it back bue to the fact >>> its not what was advertised. [quoted text clipped - 18 lines] > If you want an ugly phone then go for the 1mp nokia 7610, it has more > features but looks like shite. Oh I agree, that is a hideous looking contraption. What where the Nokia designers smoking ? > The phone is not as advertised by Sony Ericsson, I see no mention of > Vodafone advertising anywhere? Well that's what 'James Doble' posted and I quote: "I got a the same phone on Vodaphone and am taking it back bue to the fact its not what was advertised. BTW James it's Vodafone NOT Vodaphone ;-) > The features have been removed because Vodafone want to cash in on its > customers and make them use Live to get ringtones, rather then using [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > If you don't like the K700i Michael then that is your opinion, I've got nothing against the k700i, it's a well featured and very smart looking phone. BTW I've recently acquired a used SE t630, to use as an alternative to my Nokia 6310i. I think it's a great phone, however the camera is really crap, worse than the k700i's one. It might as well not be there. > but the > phone has had great reviews and is IMO the best looking and feature > packed phone out there. ...however it's camera, with fixed-focus pinhole sized lens, *web-cam* quality cheapo sensor, no flash. Should be considered a toy or gimmick and nothing more. The same applies to all camera phones. And I still say 'You want decent pics ? Then get a proper multi-megapixel digital camera.' something like Pentax, Canon, Kodak, etc. They ain't exactly expensive these days. IMO even those cheap throw-away single-use film cameras, take pictures many times better than any camera phone can. SignatureMichael Turner Email (ROT13) zvxr.gheare1963@ivetva.arg >>>> I got a the same phone on Vodaphone and am taking it back bue to the >>>> fact [quoted text clipped - 65 lines] > IMO even those cheap throw-away single-use film cameras, take pictures > many times better than any camera phone can. yeah agreed there is no comparison to a normal digi cam, but the whole ethos in using a cam phone is to capture pic's at a time when you dont have a camera with you, I think camera phones fill this gap perfectly, they also make great pic's to use on the web as there small. I had a Samsung E700 before and this had a great zoom which I miss, but the quality was not as good as the K700. Ronny > > The camera in the k700i is infect very good, its certainly alot better then > > all the other sub 1mp phones, it has a nice clear display, a big screen, it > > does everything you could ever want from a phone. My only other camera phone was an Alcatel 735... its camera and display wasn't as high res, but IMO it took cleaner pictures. I haven't tried the K700i outdoors in full light yet, but all of the indoor pics I've taken thus far has been full of noise, and some even blurry... and don't get me started on the video camera - it's a total waste of time. Worse than webcam quality. I guess it's a nice gimmick to have though (makes showing off your phone so much more satsifying). > > If you want an ugly phone then go for the 1mp nokia 7610, it has more > > features but looks like shite. > > Oh I agree, that is a hideous looking contraption. What where the Nokia > designers smoking ? I've been avoiding the Nokia brand for a while now - can't stand their designs. > > The features have been removed because Vodafone want to cash in on its > > customers and make them use Live to get ringtones, rather then using > > your own, unfortunately this has backfired on them and are now having > > loads of phones returned to them as they are not working as they should > > be. Anyone got a hack for this yet? > I've got nothing against the k700i, it's a well featured and very smart > looking phone. It's a pretty good phone - good signal reception, 41mb memory allowing for tons of JAVA games and files, WAP2 and GPRS, et cetera. I WAS expecting better camera quality and more features though, considering the price I paid for it. I'm actually missing a few features from my old Alcatel 735 (which costs a fraction of the price), such as voice activation (not just for calls, but for opening the voice memo, opening WAP, et cetera) and a currencery converter. The K700i isn't the best phone out there, but there are far worse... > ...however it's camera, with fixed-focus pinhole sized lens, > *web-cam* quality cheapo sensor, no flash. Should be considered a toy or > gimmick and nothing more. The same applies to all camera phones. On the plus side the builtin camera light mights a pretty good flashlight... <=[BC]= >> > The camera in the k700i is infect very good, its certainly alot better > then [quoted text clipped - 53 lines] > > <=[BC]=> I have taken some pics indoors, does yours look like this, as I dont think there that bad 1 at 320x and one at 640 www.fsplanes.net/test.JPG www.fsplanes.net/test1.JPG www.fsplanes.net/test2.JPG Just a pic of my desk at work lol Ronny "Ronny" <Ron@Ron.com> wrote in message news:cgne4j$kth$1 > I have taken some pics indoors, does yours look like this, as I dont think > there that bad well, maybe my pics will look better when viewed on a proper computer screen... what about your video cam? Does it work okay? EVERYTHING (or rather, anything that moves) comes out blurry and heavily pixelised... <=[BC]= > "Ronny" <Ron@Ron.com> wrote in message news:cgne4j$kth$1 > [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > <=[BC]=> Nope mine are fine, just move the phone slower, and do it outside, its not a camcorder, you will get better results outside Just recieved the new unbranded K700i, its much better, its got sound recorder and other new functions on, that were not on the shitty Vodafone one :) < happy Ronny > I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The > phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > <=[BC]=> Wouldn't this be simply solved by having your phone unlocked somewhere, and then giving it to SE to upgrade the firmware? I was led to believe that the machine autodetects the branding and upgrades the firmware to keep it in place. But with unlocking beforehand, surely it would all default to the SE unbranded defaults? Am I right here? >> I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. The >> phone itself's okay I guess, though I WAS a bit disappointed with the pic >> quality of its camera... (anyways you guys can probably guess from the >> subject header WHY I am so pissed off...) Damn Vodafone! They have >> disabled the using MP3 as ringtone feature?! Is there are way around >> this? > Wouldn't this be simply solved by having your phone unlocked somewhere, > and then giving it to SE to upgrade the firmware? I was led to believe [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Am I right here? I'm having a little trouble finding the unlocking codes/sequence... heck, I'm having trouble finding the firmware upgrades. I spoke to the people at Vodafone about the locked MP3-ringtone feature, and was told by their staff that they were not aware of this problem, and that there was nothing they could do for me. I was surprised, and told them that it was a worldwide problem, a very common worldwide problem. They thought I was mad or something... well, if someone finds a way to unlock this feature, please tell me how. also can anyone tell me where I can find fireware updates on the net? <=[BC]= If your phone is customised (Vodafone, Orange & T-Mobile) you can't firmware upgrade the phone yet as the software isn't availible - thats info is from a Sony E Service Centre in North London (The best in London I might add) The Prof >>> I just got me a new Ericsson K700i today... And I am NOT impressed. >>> The [quoted text clipped - 26 lines] > > <=[BC]= > If your phone is customised (Vodafone, Orange & T-Mobile) you can't firmware > upgrade the phone yet as the software isn't availible - thats info is from a > Sony E Service Centre in North London (The best in London I might add) > > The Prof Yeah, BUT, if you get the phone unlocked, then technically speaking, it's not customised anymore, which means that the service centre machine would detect this, and just upgrade to the latest default SE firmware. That's my theory, which I wanted to sound out here to see if it makes sense to anyone. There are a few places in London that will unlock a K700 for you. Doesn't work like that - unlocked just mean you can use it on any network - customisation is the 'personal touch' each network provider give the phone. For example if you have a Vodafone branded and customised phone then by unlocking it you can use it on any network but the graphics and underlying software on the phone will still be Vodafone. Like I said the networks are aware of this issue- vodafone intend to have the problem resolved by an 'over the air' upgrade en masse later this month - you'll have to wait a bit longer for the hackers to come up with a way to get around the network customisation issue - there are security issue that if you try to get around will render your phone useless - so don't try it yet..... Hope that helps The Prof >> If your phone is customised (Vodafone, Orange & T-Mobile) you can't >> firmware [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > theory, which I wanted to sound out here to see if it makes sense to > anyone. There are a few places in London that will unlock a K700 for you. >> If your phone is customised (Vodafone, Orange & T-Mobile) you can't >> firmware [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > Yeah, BUT, if you get the phone unlocked, then technically speaking, it's > not customised anymore, I think you'll find it is very much still customised. > which means that the service centre machine would > detect this, and just upgrade to the latest default SE firmware. No, the customisation if held in the firmware of the phone and has absolutely nothing to do with the phone being locked. > That's my > theory, which I wanted to sound out here to see if it makes sense to > anyone. There are a few places in London that will unlock a K700 for you. Unlock it, yes. Unbrand it, no. No-one (including SE Service Centres) can unbrand the K700i or F500 yet. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< Sorry, I don't think I explained my theory well enough. Like you say, customisation is in the firmware. However, I was told that the SE service centre machines that can do firmware upgrades "autodetect" the phone and fetch the latest firmware available for that branding/provider etc. So you go in with a Voda branded handset and you get the latest Voda firmware. Therefore, my theory was, that a Vodafone branded phone is identified by the fact that it's locked to the Vodafone network, rather than any files that make up the branding (this is pure speculation). Now if you were to get it unlocked so it was unattached to any network, would the SE service centre machines then detect it as a network neutral phone and update the firmware to the default, SE firmware, therby over-writing all the Vodafone crap. Hope that makes sense. And yes, I've heard there might be an over-the-air upgrade, but I've only heard that on here and I'm not sure I believe it. Can't really see them detecting K700s all over their network and somehow patching the firmware as if by magic. I'd LOVE for this to be the case, but I just don't see it happening. > Sorry, I don't think I explained my theory well enough. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > branding/provider etc. So you go in with a Voda branded handset and you > get the latest Voda firmware. Correct (to a point). > Therefore, my theory was, that a Vodafone branded phone is identified by > the fact that it's locked to the Vodafone network, rather than any files > that make up the branding (this is pure speculation). And absolutely wrong I'm afraid. It's identified by the firmware and GDFS on the phone and specifically the CDA number. Unlocking it will make no difference whatsoever. > Now if you were to > get it unlocked so it was unattached to any network, would the SE service > centre machines then detect it as a network neutral phone and update the > firmware to the default, SE firmware, therby over-writing all the Vodafone > crap. No, they'd identify it as a Voda handset and update it accordingly. > Hope that makes sense. > [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > as if by magic. I'd LOVE for this to be the case, but I just don't see it > happening. They did off updates over the net similar to the P900 for a short while, but I don't know if that is still the case. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< Richard, thanks for the information. I didn't know they used GDFS/CDA number. Fair enough then. Fingers crossed that they do the over the air upgrade (or even a non over-the-air upgrade). > Richard, > > thanks for the information. I didn't know they used GDFS/CDA number. Fair > enough then. Fingers crossed that they do the over the air upgrade (or > even a non over-the-air upgrade). Unbranding will come (eventually) for the K700i, but I can't see it being any time soon, and I doubt very much that any official service centre will offer to do it. I know many of the flashing solution teams are working on it, but it's causing no end of problems. >>> Unlock Your Phone's Potential <<< >>> www.uselessinfo.org.uk <<< >>> www.thephonelocker.co.uk <<< >>> www.gsm-solutions.co.uk <<< |
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