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unbranding v800

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Patrick Kormann - 22 Feb 2005 00:37 GMT
hi

when I want to unbrand a v800 what would I need (if I don't want to buy
credits for every single update etc, as I chance mobile phone every few
months and the same is true for other persons in my familiy.)?
Would a twister flasher with setool standalone be suitable? Or is the
twister flasher alone enough? if not, what do I need the setool
standalone need for? Or the other way around, why does the server
version of setool work with an inexpensive cable, but the stand alone
version needs something like the twister flasher?

Thanks for your help
loko__loko - 22 Feb 2005 01:59 GMT
buy a setool standalone at US$199.00

unlock/debrand all you want (k5, k7, s7, v8, z1)

1 computer, 1 user only

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Patrick Kormann - 22 Feb 2005 02:21 GMT
loko__loko schrieb:
> buy a setool standalone at US$199.00
>
> unlock/debrand all you want (k5, k7, s7, v8, z1)
>
> 1 computer, 1 user only

And what hardware is needed?
I just bought some credits with davinciteam because they support the
dss-20 stand that I already have and I was able to upgrade (to the
newest voda software). I guess when they get z800 firmwares on their
server, that will do the trick for the moment for me...
I hope this will be soon because the firmware I have now is even more
crippeled then the one I had before (isn't able to even play the
protected (with the drm-software of se) MP3s, isn't german...)
loko__loko - 22 Feb 2005 05:47 GMT
hi,

wherer did you buy the credits?

ive been emailing them for the R1X z800 software, hope it will b
available in the ftp soon.

will keep you poste
Patrick Kormann - 22 Feb 2005 10:05 GMT
loko__loko schrieb:
> hi,
>
> wherer did you buy the credits?

Directly at the davinciteam homepage. (By the way, I installed ICQ last
night for the first time since many years to contact you but you weren't
online - and you know, men can't wait if their looking for a new toy :) )

> ive been emailing them for the R1X z800 software, hope it will be
> available in the ftp soon.
>
> will keep you posted

Thanks a lot!
Another question: The z1010 seems to use a similar kind of firmware
(CID29 or something...) - does this mean it would work on the v800 as
well? (if, with some strange side effects, I guess)
Richard Colton - 22 Feb 2005 09:21 GMT
> buy a setool standalone at US$199.00
>
> unlock/debrand all you want (k5, k7, s7, v8, z1)
>
> 1 computer, 1 user only

Personally I'd go with Twister - at least that way you can also deal with
other brands of handset as well (and it's not tied to just one machine).

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Richard Colton - 22 Feb 2005 09:19 GMT
> hi
>
> when I want to unbrand a v800 what would I need (if I don't want to buy
> credits for every single update etc, as I chance mobile phone every few
> months and the same is true for other persons in my familiy.)?
> Would a twister flasher with setool standalone be suitable?

Twister on its own is enough to deal with the P800 (and P900/910).

>Or is the twister flasher alone enough? if not, what do I need the setool
>standalone need for?

SeTool standalone works without Twister using a logging system.  Laser has
produced a version that uses Saras's boxes (Twister, UFS etc) and that's
more flexible.  However, unless you're planning to flash a few K or F series
handsets I'd be inclined to wait a while as I'm pretty sure the price will
drop on SETool quite rapidly

> Or the other way around, why does the server version of setool work with
> an inexpensive cable, but the stand alone version needs something like the
> twister flasher?

Because unless you buy the unlimited version of the standalone SETool you'll
still end up buying logs.  The version for Twister is more fully featured
and a bit more flexible in the way it works.

Anyway, the point's a bit moot as you don't need SETool to flash a P800 -
just use Twister to do it.  Whichever way you decide to go, make sure you
only buy any flashing gear from an authorised distributor/reseller - that
way at least you'll be dealing with someone who knows the box well and can
deal with any support problems you might have.

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Patrick Kormann - 22 Feb 2005 10:08 GMT
Richard Colton schrieb:

> SeTool standalone works without Twister using a logging system.  Laser has
> produced a version that uses Saras's boxes (Twister, UFS etc) and that's
> more flexible.  However, unless you're planning to flash a few K or F series
> handsets I'd be inclined to wait a while as I'm pretty sure the price will
> drop on SETool quite rapidly

Why do you think the price will drop in the near future? I still don't
understand... the standalone version doesn't use logging, does it?
Anyway - as I just bought some davinciteam credits, I may really wait
some time.

> Because unless you buy the unlimited version of the standalone SETool you'll
> still end up buying logs.  The version for Twister is more fully featured
> and a bit more flexible in the way it works.

ah.

> Anyway, the point's a bit moot as you don't need SETool to flash a P800 -
> just use Twister to do it.  Whichever way you decide to go, make sure you
> only buy any flashing gear from an authorised distributor/reseller - that
> way at least you'll be dealing with someone who knows the box well and can
> deal with any support problems you might have.

But I don't have a P800, so that would't help a lot :) I have a V800
that would like to  become a Z800 :)

Thanks
Richard Colton - 22 Feb 2005 13:24 GMT
> Richard Colton schrieb:
<snip>
>> Anyway, the point's a bit moot as you don't need SETool to flash a P800 -
>> just use Twister to do it.  Whichever way you decide to go, make sure you
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> But I don't have a P800, so that would't help a lot :) I have a V800 that
> would like to  become a Z800 :)

D'oh!  Ok, I'll go and stand in the corner and recite "I must read posts
more carefully before replying".  ;-)

Sorry.

I still think I'd go the Twister route and add SETool as well though, but it
would be a bit of overkill if you're just wanting to do the one phone.

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Patrick Kormann - 22 Feb 2005 14:26 GMT
Richard Colton schrieb:

> D'oh!  Ok, I'll go and stand in the corner and recite "I must read posts
> more carefully before replying".  ;-)
>
> Sorry.

No problem :)

> I still think I'd go the Twister route and add SETool as well though, but it
> would be a bit of overkill if you're just wanting to do the one phone.

Of course it is - I love overkills :) No of course I wouldn't buy that
for one phone, but my wife has an SE as well, her two sons have a V800
as well... and we all buy new phones quite often and I always like to do
firmwareupgrades :)

regards

Patrick
 
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