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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Fido / May 2004TELUS Mobility ranks No. 1 in North America in wireless industry study
First Canadian wireless carrier to be ranked in top spot by N. Moore Capital SCARBOROUGH, ON, May 27 /CNW/ - TELUS Mobility is pleased to have been selected as the number one wireless carrier in North America in the quarterly ranking of the continent's major wireless carriers conducted by N. Moore Capital, Ltd., an independent company based in New York that provides financial analysis of the telecommunications industry. "Nothing new to report here as TELUS Mobility continues to be one of the best performing wireless operators in all of North America... finally breaking to the top of the charts with a first place ranking," said Jeffery Hines, president of N. Moore Capital, in the firm's May 2004 report. The full Q4 2004 ranking chart is attached at the bottom of this release. N. Moore Capital's report analyzed the first-quarter 2004 performance of the 20 major wireless carriers in North America based on five main metrics: Subscriber growth, average revenue per subscriber, churn, free cash flow per subscriber and cost of acquisition. TELUS Mobility ranked first in a tie with its strategic partner Verizon Wireless. "We're gratified by this independent recognition of TELUS Mobility's industry-leading operational and financial performance," said George Cope, CEO and president of TELUS Mobility. "Our unsurpassed national coverage, exceptional client care and industry-leading products have kept us at the forefront of the wireless business, not just at home but right across the continent." About TELUS Mobility TELUS Mobility provides its more than 3.5 million clients across Canada with a full suite of wireless voice, Internet and data services through its PCS and Mike digital wireless networks. For more about TELUS Mobility, please visit telusmobility.com. TELUS is Canada's second largest telecommunications company with more than Cdn$7 billion of annual revenue, more than 4.8 million network access lines and more than 3.5 million wireless subscribers. The company provides subscribers across Canada with a full range of telecommunications products and services utilizing next-generation Internet-based technologies, including data and voice services through TELUS Communications Inc. and wireless services through TELUS Mobility. << 1Q04 North American wireless services update N. Moore Capital, Ltd. ------------------------------------------------------------------------- 1Q04 Sub piFCF/ Rankings Growth COA ARPU Churn Sub Total ------------------------------------------------------------------------- TELUS Mobility 8 3 15 2 3 31 Verizon Wireless 1 5 13 4 8 31 Nextel 12 20 1 5 1 39 Alamosa PCS 5 13 7 11 4 40 Western Wireless 10 12 11 6 2 41 Alltel 7 8 14 11 5 45 US Unwired 9 2 10 18 7 46 Cingular 4 1 12 13 16 46 Bell Mobility 6 15 18 1 9 49 Nextel Partners 16 16 2 3 13 50 Sprint PCS 14 10 3 15 12 54 AirGate PCS 17 11 5 16 6 55 T-Mobile (USA) 3 9 8 17 19 56 US Cellular 2 17 16 7 18 60 Triton PCS 13 18 9 10 11 61 Rogers 15 6 19 9 14 63 AT&T Wireless 20 7 4 20 15 66 Ubiquitel 11 14 6 18 17 66 Dobson 19 19 17 8 10 73 Microcell 18 4 20 14 20 76 ------------------------------------------------------------------------- (*) COA: Cost of acquisition per subscriber. (*) ARPU: Average revenue per unit/subscriber per month. (*) piFCF per subscriber: Pre-interest expense free-cash-flow per subscriber per month. >> For further information: Media contact: Mark Langton, (416) 684-3454, mark.langton@telus.com; Investor relations contact: Robert Mitchell, (416) 279-3219, robert.mitchell2@telus.com http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2004/27/c8247.html Hehehehe, first place on the money front, and WHERE on the customer service front... :( > First Canadian wireless carrier to be ranked in top spot by N. Moore > Capital [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2004/27/c8247.html > Hehehehe, first place on the money front, and WHERE on the customer service > front... :( > > Microcell 18 4 20 14 20 Note that Microcell has the highest ARPU (average revenue per subscriber) of the whole bunch. I am susprised that their churn is still so high though. They used to be the lowest in canada when they started. >>Hehehehe, first place on the money front, and WHERE on the customer service >>front... :( [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > Note that Microcell has the highest ARPU (average revenue per subscriber) of > the whole bunch. Unfortunately, the chart shows that Microcell has the lowest ARPU. These scores are rankings (the higher number is not good if you are the provider, it is good if you are the customer!) > I am susprised that their churn is still so high though. They used to be the > lowest in canada when they started. This is very worrying. I am guessing that it is a reflection of the number of pre-paid customers. Brendan Oh, you must have missed the small print... The customer is ranked at 99th!;-) And what does this have to do with Fido? >First Canadian wireless carrier to be ranked in top spot by N. Moore > Capital [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > >http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2004/27/c8247.html - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply Well firstly, in this comparison Telus scored at the top and Fido at the bottom. And secondly, Telus is proposing to buy Fido. So it is relevant. Brendan > And what does this have to do with Fido? > [quoted text clipped - 81 lines] > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply >Well firstly, in this comparison Telus scored at the top and Fido at the >bottom. And secondly, Telus is proposing to buy Fido. So it is relevant. That is *really* a stretch. - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply Whoa, what part of this is a stretch? I referred only to this survey. I am not vouching for its veracity, but the unmistakable conclusion is that Telus as a business, is doing better than Fido in these measures. And it is a fact that Telus is proposing to acquire Microcell (Fido). Brendan >>Well firstly, in this comparison Telus scored at the top and Fido at the >>bottom. And secondly, Telus is proposing to buy Fido. So it is relevant. [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - > remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply With all due respect Brendan, if you know anything much about Fido users in general, the majority of us would rather give up cellular phones altogether rather than go with Telus. GSM is the better technology and offers both novice and professional users the most flexibility in terms of handsets and in Fido in great calling plans. Finally, if one looks carefully at that chart near the bottom, Microcell scored the highest Subscriber Growth and highest Average Revenue Per Unit/Subscriber. Additionally, though their Churn rate is high (a consequence of having such a large Pay As You Go/Pre-paid clientele), it is by no means higher than, say AT&T Wireless, T-Mobile or Sprint in the USA for example. Remember, when the majority of your subscribers (as in the case with Telus) are clients on monthly plans who are locked into 2 and 3 year contracts with the company, their churn rate is logically much lower. I don't think the sale of Fido to Telus will go through, but, if - Heaven Forbid- it does and Telus tries to move us over to CDMA, a large number of Fido clients will likely move over to Rogers Wireless, reluctantly albeit. A mass UNLOCKING programme could be set up by Rogers in all their larger outlets thereby negating the need to bear the costs of New Handset in most instances and seamlessly integrating their large new bunch of disgruntled clients. Fido is the best thing happening to the cellular industry in Canada and I pray to God that no such sale takes place. Dave >Well firstly, in this comparison Telus scored at the top and Fido at the >bottom. And secondly, Telus is proposing to buy Fido. So it is relevant. Brendan > First Canadian wireless carrier to be ranked in top spot by N. Moore > Capital [quoted text clipped - 76 lines] > > http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2004/27/c8247.html That's bullshit. 90% of the Fido users (or all cell phone users, in fact) could care less about the technology. Give them a nice phone and good price plan and they stay. And they get to keep their phone number... The majority of users still use their phones simply to make / receive calls, use a little VM, and that's about it. And that's all they will care about. The bottom line is that most people are inherently lazy, and will just take what is given to them, if it is a good deal. To say that "... the majority of us would rather give up cellular phones altogether..." just shows that you really have no clue about cell users. Now, if you said the majority of people who use newgroups / HoFo, and the like, that would be a different story. That I could understand. Do yourself a favour - get a clue before posting again, you are just making an a.s of yourself. > With all due respect Brendan, if you know anything much about Fido users in > general, the majority of us would rather give up cellular phones altogether [quoted text clipped - 80 lines] > > 1Q04 North American wireless services update > > N. Moore Capital, Ltd. ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > 1Q04 Sub piFCF/ > > Rankings Growth COA ARPU Churn Sub > Total ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > TELUS Mobility 8 3 15 2 3 [quoted text clipped - 37 lines] > > Microcell 18 4 20 14 20 > 76 ---------------------------------------------------------------------- > --- > > [quoted text clipped - 10 lines] > > > > http://www.cnw.ca/fr/releases/archive/May2004/27/c8247.html >Do yourself a favour - get a clue before posting again, you are just making >an a.s of yourself. Seems to me that *lots* of people seem to have that talent on this newsgroup (if you'll look in the mirror.) - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply > Do yourself a favour - get a clue before posting again, you are just making > an a.s of yourself. You just made a bigger one of yourself by being an arrogant SOB > > Do yourself a favour - get a clue before posting again, you are just > making > > an a.s of yourself. > > You just made a bigger one of yourself by being an arrogant SOB If the guy took his "Fido Beer Goggles" off for a second and put something down that made sense, we would not have an issue. At least I know what the hell I am talking about. If you can't pull your head out of your a.s and /or make stupid comments, expect to get flamed - you deserve it. These dumbass Fido vs Telus debates are useless. Especially when the Fido or Telus (or even worse, CDMA or GSM) zealots get involved. >These dumbass Fido vs Telus debates are useless. Especially when the Fido or >Telus (or even worse, CDMA or GSM) zealots get involved. Yeah, what she said! - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply > chart near the bottom, Microcell scored the highest Subscriber Growth and > highest Average Revenue Per Unit/Subscriber. In that chart, the numbers reflect a ranking. Microcell 18 4 20 14 20 18th out of 20 for suscriber growth 4th for cost of acquisitiuon (that is good) 20th for ARPU 14th for Churn 20th for that fancy measure. > Go/Pre-paid clientele), it is by no means higher than, say AT&T Wireless, AT&T Wireless is not a good comparison. They were in a tailspin and Cingular will now attempt to fix that. > who are locked into 2 and 3 year contracts with the company, their churn > rate is logically much lower. Yes and no. Fido gets "temporary" customers that the others don't. If someone needs a phone for just a couple of months, he won't go with Bell/Telus/Rogers. But he will contribute to higher churn for Fido. What Fido should do is provide some chart showing what percentage of its customers are very loyal, and what percentage are transitory. It could be that a very small percentage of customers general 99%? of the churn while the rest are very loyal/stable. Of course, now that Fido is also under contract, it remains to be seen how their churn will change. > I don't think the sale of Fido to Telus will go through, but, if - Heaven > Forbid- it does and Telus tries to move us over to CDMA, a large number of > Fido clients will likely move over to Rogers Wireless, If fairness, most mobile customers don't know the difference between CDMA and GSM. Note that CDMA also has SMS now. And in the states, some CDMA networks are starting to offer 3G data services, but no GSM has it yet. > reluctantly albeit. A > mass UNLOCKING programme could be set up by Rogers in all their larger > outlets thereby negating the need to bear the costs of New Handset The locks are owned by Microcell. Either Industry Canada would have to force Microcell to relinquish all locks in exchange for its elimination by Telus, or Rogers would have to buy those locks. It may still turn out cheaper than providing totally new handsets. >With all due respect Brendan, if you know anything much about Fido users in >general, the majority of us would rather give up cellular phones altogether [quoted text clipped - 13 lines] >Fido clients will likely move over to Rogers Wireless, reluctantly albeit. A >mass UNLOCKING programme could be set up by Rogers in all their larger See Steve Punter's take on the proposed buyout of Fido by Telus: http://www.arcx.com/sites/faq.htm#TelusBuyFido - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - - remove NONO from .NONOcom to reply > Fido is the best thing happening to the cellular industry in Canada and I > pray to God that no such sale takes place. > Dave The snowball is rolling downhill, Microcell will be sold, just might not be to Telus that's all :) |
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