>I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
>concerned about whether or not they modify their phones with SIM or
>service provider locks. I'd like to not have to buy a data cable and
>pay to have the locks removed if i ever decide to move over to another
>provider.
>>I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
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Don't know if that's true, a couple months ago when I went and exchange my
Nokia 7210 for another one, I got an unlocked phone. I was surprise when I
inserted a Rogers SIM card into the 7210 and it worked.
Cellular Unlocker - 28 Jun 2004 07:31 GMT
OTC (over the counter) exchange handsets (the kind you get when you trade in
a defective phone) are refurbished phones. They often have remnants of
their previous users on them; a friend of mine traded in his VTech phone and
found himself with a whole second set of contacts which were already on the
phone. Your phone was probably unlocked by its previous owner, and never
re-locked.
CU
> >>I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
> >>concerned about whether or not they modify their phones with SIM or
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> Nokia 7210 for another one, I got an unlocked phone. I was surprise when I
> inserted a Rogers SIM card into the 7210 and it worked.
sbdot - 28 Jun 2004 12:13 GMT
Actually, Fido's been hit and miss. I remember that the first 'world'
phone they sold, the motorola l7089, came unlocked. The Ericsson T28
or T39 that they sold, some batches were locked and some were not. Of
late though, it seems that all of their handsets have been locked. If
you're unsure, you can always ask to borrow a buddy's Rogers card to
test, as someone suggested they did.
If the phone you buy is locked and you don't want to buy a cable and
try to find sofware and go through the hassle of figuring it out, you
can usually find an asian shop in most larger cities that's willing to
unlock it for 20-30 dollars.
With the prices they've started charging for the phones now (it
appears the days of the subsidy are long gone, at least if you don't
plan on signing up for 2 years - and let's face it, no one knows if
this company is going to be around for that long with their spotty
financial history), you'd be better served browsing froogle or yahoo
shopping for deals on unlocked phones. The prices, even after
currency conversion and shipping, often come out to less than or about
the same price that Fido charges, but it comes unlocked.
Just a few suggestions. I hope they help.
> >>I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
> >>concerned about whether or not they modify their phones with SIM or
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> Nokia 7210 for another one, I got an unlocked phone. I was surprise when I
> inserted a Rogers SIM card into the 7210 and it worked.
Jim Poon - 28 Jun 2004 13:51 GMT
Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
if they still sell them unlocked) and Rogers didn't lock their
Tungsten W (their Tungsten-W is still unlocked).
> >>I'm looking into purchasing an ericsson phone through FIDO. I'm
> >>concerned about whether or not they modify their phones with SIM or
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> Nokia 7210 for another one, I got an unlocked phone. I was surprise when I
> inserted a Rogers SIM card into the 7210 and it worked.
obs - 29 Jun 2004 08:30 GMT
> Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
> exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
> if they still sell them unlocked) and Rogers didn't lock their
> Tungsten W (their Tungsten-W is still unlocked).
This is getting off the topic but not all the GSM
providers in the world lock their phones. None of
the providers in Finland do it because of laws
there. In other places, phones purchased with a
contract are unlocked (as they should be).
repatch - 29 Jun 2004 13:23 GMT
>> Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
>> exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
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> there. In other places, phones purchased with a
> contract are unlocked (as they should be).
FWIW most phones sold in Europe are locked, however, there are two stark
differences compared to here:
- they freely admit they are locked, and even say so in the ads
- they will unlock them without an issue after you've been with them for a
while, usually a year, which is also clearly stated in the ad
MUCH better then the "you're locked in forever" junk that providers in
North America try to pull... TTYL
Jim Poon - 29 Jun 2004 23:52 GMT
Rogers advertised that their Treo 600 was sold "locked" (it was on
their webpage). I can't find the link now but it was there when the
Treo 600 was first sold by Rogers.
However, as you mentioned, the North American GSM service providers
don't openly say that their phones are locked when they sell them.
They will probably only tell you if you ask specifically about this.
> >> Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
> >> exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
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> MUCH better then the "you're locked in forever" junk that providers in
> North America try to pull... TTYL
Jim Poon - 29 Jun 2004 23:42 GMT
Your post wasn't off topic...
I was sure that there was probably some service providers that didn't
lock their phones. However, the norm in North America is that the
phones are sold locked (and I'm only familiar with the North American
market).
In any event, I hope that the lawsuit in the U.S. is successful and
the GSM service providers are forced to unlock their phones or sell
them as unlocked.
> > Fido like all GSM service providers lock their phones. There are
> > exceptions like where Cingular didn't lock their Treo 600's (not sure
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> there. In other places, phones purchased with a
> contract are unlocked (as they should be).