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From: jfmezei <jfme...@videotron.ca>
Subject: Re: Circumcision FAQ [1/1]
Date: 1996/12/01
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Grace Boockholdt wrote:

From looking at guys in the locker room, it seems that most have quite a
bit of inner foreskin left, and most who are cut are cut at birth.
Therefore, I think that it is wrong to say that an infant circumcision
removes the inner foreskin.

It may remove some inner foreskin, none or all, but you cannot
generalise. But you can *and should* advise parents who do decide to
have their son cut to request that all of the inner foreskin be left
intact. Hey, if you are not going to convince them to leave son intact,
at least give them hints on how to get a decent circumcision done on
their infant.

As far as the frenulum is concerned, has it ever occured to you that it
just might be that some are born with short/thin frenulums and some have
thick ones ? Perhaps some even have the frenulum "shrink" during puberty
(speculation on my part). So I do not think that it is fair to say that
all frenulums are cut off during an infant circ.

Yeah, that is the goal of circumcision.  YOu'll get no debate there.
But you'll get a debate on whether that alteration is good, neutral or
bad. With circumcision, you may loose on the sensitivity of glans, but
gain on the sensitivity of the inner foreskin and shaft skin because
they become smooth and somewhat tight on shaft and are therefore more
directly stimulated.

And summing up the total sexual sensitivity during  very subjective
thing to do. And since circumcised males can still masturbate, have
orgasm and reproduce, then circumcision cannot be all that bad.

Define foreskin. Most of the foreskin is just normal regular shaft skin.
Only about 1.5" of the foreskin is the inner foreskin which is the
sensitive part.

And to those who claim that the "frenar band" (where inner foreskin
transforms into/meets the shaft skin) is more sensitive, I say:
Could it be that it has more nerves/square cm than other inner foreskin
simply because the skin is not stretched and there is therefore more
skin per square cm in that wrinkled skin ?

From my personnal experience, I am much more aware of my inner foreskin
now than before sinply because before, it was "hidden" or bunched up at
the rim of head and received little or no attention and when it was
moist, it was next to impossible to rub your fingers on it. I have news
for you, the moistness which accumulates under the foreskin is NOT
lubricant, it is the opposite of this.  The moistness is NOT pre-cum.

Agreed. but you shoudl also agree that some do not like their noses and
some have problems with their noses.

This is your own attitude towards the bringing up of a child. While I
tend to agree with you, I also respect the right of parents to instill
more direction into the way their child develops. How much is too much
is hard to judge.

If the parents culture prevents them from teaching their child about the
care of his foreskin, chances are that the guy will develop foreskin
problems. The parents would therefore acknowledge THEIR problem by
having son circumcised so that their cultural drawback does not cause
their son problems later in life.

In the above case, the cultural background of the parents is very
important. If they can't talk about sex to their kid, I consider this a
problem, but the fact remains that they will still have a kid.

If you call shaft skin erogenous tissue, then fine. But the simple fact
that I, a single individual, have gained from having my long skin
shortened means that you cannot use the word "ALL" in your ddefinitions
of circumcision as an evil thing to do. And i beleive that there are
plenty of adults whose condition improved after circumcision, some more
radical than others.

Don't give doctors any ideas ! :-) :-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-) ;-)

If your labia were long and thick and you felt that it hindered on your
sex and appearance and knew that a simple procedure could fix that,
wouldn't you consider it ? Some are able to accept their body as it is,
and some strive to improve the way they look (with sports, better food,
, hair colouring and to the extreme: cosmetic surgery)

If parents think that their son, once grown, will feel
inferior/different because of his foreskin, they will surely consider
infant circumcision as an improvement.

You need to convince those that when their just born son grows up, it is
the circumcised ones that will feel inferior/different.