Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Fido / July 2005
GPRS Performance
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Daniel Correia - 30 May 2005 06:50 GMT How is the performance of the fido gprs network, is it decent, slow? Would like to hear some feedback before signing up for it for pda use.
Thanks, Daniel
DilusionNews - 30 May 2005 11:32 GMT been trying forever to get my gprs working sony-erricsson z600 with a palm tungsten t3.......
nobody seems to be able to help....
fido says call sony-erricsson...
sony-erricsson says call palm....
palm when i call them will probably say call fido.......
arghhh...
g'luck.
dilusion
> How is the performance of the fido gprs network, is it decent, slow? > Would like to hear some feedback before signing up for it for pda use. > > Thanks, > Daniel repatch - 30 May 2005 15:23 GMT > How is the performance of the fido gprs network, is it decent, slow? Would > like to hear some feedback before signing up for it for pda use. Haven't used it lately, but when I did try using it is was too slow to be useful.
While bandwidth was "ok" (about the same as dialup), the latency was HORRIBLE. Sometimes it took 10 seconds or more before data started to flow, VERY annoying when doing "interactive" stuff on the net. I gave up on it.
TTYL
Daniel Correia - 30 May 2005 18:05 GMT That doesn't sound too good, but I guess as long as I can check email, its alright.. Anyone have any idea's how the rogers gprs network is?
>> How is the performance of the fido gprs network, is it decent, slow? >> Would [quoted text clipped - 9 lines] > > TTYL repatch - 30 May 2005 19:25 GMT > That doesn't sound too good, but I guess as long as I can check email, its > alright.. > Anyone have any idea's how the rogers gprs network is? My experience with Roger's GPRS is better, while the latency CAN be high at times, in general it's quite responsive.
There are times of the day where it seems to "stall", but that alone could be due to internet things more then Rogers' side.
It would certainly be OK for email (heck, even the performance I experienced with Fido's GPRS would have been OK for email). As long as you don't expect more then dialup performance Roger's GPRS is pretty decent IMHO. OTOH, it's price is not very decent, but that's another story. TTYL
JF Mezei - 30 May 2005 21:53 GMT > While bandwidth was "ok" (about the same as dialup), the latency was > HORRIBLE. Sometimes it took 10 seconds or more before data started to > flow, VERY annoying when doing "interactive" stuff on the net. I gave up > on it. You can go to a web site (I think it was rapido.fido.ca but not sure) which acts as the http proxy and then configure many settings for data/image compression which affects performance of GPRS with laptops or other standalone devices the phone as a glorified modem. (as opposed to the handset's WAP and email finctiosn which do not use HTTP protocol).
repatch - 30 May 2005 22:17 GMT >> While bandwidth was "ok" (about the same as dialup), the latency was >> HORRIBLE. Sometimes it took 10 seconds or more before data started to [quoted text clipped - 6 lines] > other standalone devices the phone as a glorified modem. (as opposed to > the handset's WAP and email finctiosn which do not use HTTP protocol). I'm not talking about http, for that 10 second delays are common (some would even say expected).
What I'm talking about are "interactive" type applications, things list instant messaging. For those sorts of apps 10+ second delays are a joke. Newsgroups were also very painful (imagine selecting an article and then having to wait 10 seconds for it to appear).
Perhaps things have improved, but from the complete lack of "good" comment in this thread I have a feeling they haven't. TTYL
JF Mezei - 31 May 2005 01:25 GMT > What I'm talking about are "interactive" type applications, things list > instant messaging. For those sorts of apps 10+ second delays are a joke. > Newsgroups were also very painful (imagine selecting an article and then > having to wait 10 seconds for it to appear). On my handset, I found that when you have weak reception, throughput is very slow and sporadic, probably due to need for many retransmits. There is a huge difference when you have good coverage.
repatch - 31 May 2005 15:40 GMT >> What I'm talking about are "interactive" type applications, things list >> instant messaging. For those sorts of apps 10+ second delays are a joke. [quoted text clipped - 4 lines] > very slow and sporadic, probably due to need for many retransmits. There > is a huge difference when you have good coverage. Perhaps, but my experience was over months, in many different areas, with full strength of coverage, with 2 different models of handsets. CS basically admitted that the performance I was seeing was "normal"...
Daniel Correia - 31 May 2005 16:41 GMT Hey, I've been testing GPRS with iPaq H6325 i think... so far its pretty decent in the area's I have been in..I was able to stream online radio from Z103.5 just fine, but I do sometimes see the latency but it's acceptible for emails etc.
>>> What I'm talking about are "interactive" type applications, things list >>> instant messaging. For those sorts of apps 10+ second delays are a joke. [quoted text clipped - 8 lines] > full strength of coverage, with 2 different models of handsets. CS > basically admitted that the performance I was seeing was "normal"... Brendan McCullough - 30 May 2005 18:35 GMT > How is the performance of the fido gprs network, is it decent, slow? > Would like to hear some feedback before signing up for it for pda use. > > Thanks, > Daniel The 'Fido' GPRS network is fast becoming a thing of the past. The question really should be: How is the performance of the new integrated Rogers GPRS network? The Fido branding and plans will persist for the foreseeable future, but all services will be carried on the Rogers integrated network.
Brendan
RdR - 30 May 2005 23:01 GMT Hi Daniel,
I am using Fido's GPRS. I have an HP4355 connecting via bluetooth on a sony T610. The speed I will guess is about double a 56K connection 95% of the time.
Here are the things I am using this PDA for:
EMAIL - good Internet Explorer - good for all text, fair depending on the Graphics contents, I turn graphics off MSN - Perfect, sub-second response and very much real time Skype or Phone application - performance degrades fast until you cannot use it anymore Internet Radio using GSPlayer - not good in GPRS, always goes to buffer mode.
Thanks,
> How is the performance of the fido gprs network, is it decent, slow? > Would like to hear some feedback before signing up for it for pda use. > > Thanks, > Daniel RdR - 30 May 2005 23:03 GMT ...Oh, by the way, get the flat GPRS plan for 50 bucks, if you get the per KB, some websites may just make you spend more than 50 bucks a month in regular use.
> Hi Daniel, > [quoted text clipped - 20 lines] >> Thanks, >> Daniel Asif Husain - 02 Jul 2005 04:19 GMT I use it every day.
It all depends how much data you are transferring.
My test show it operates at 14 to 20 abs
> How is the performance of the fido gprs network, is it decent, slow? > Would like to hear some feedback before signing up for it for pda use. > > Thanks, > Daniel Harry Eugene Ly - 02 Jul 2005 18:55 GMT I use my GPRS everyday (I have the "unlimited" plan) for checking personal e-mail every 10 minutes, getting stock quotes every 30 minutes, doing the occassional web browsing, and chatting online. I get the occassional problem which most of the time I can easily solve by turning off the phone feature of my PDAphone and turning it back on. The download is roughly equivalent/slower than a 56k modem connection so I don't do a lot of web browsing on the phone. I'll just use it to do something like check the time of a movie playing, etc. How "good" the GPRS works (just like Rogers or Fido's voice service) also depends on where you are physically located when you are using it (system strength).
> I use it every day. > [quoted text clipped - 7 lines] > > Thanks, > > Daniel
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