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Cellular Phone Forum / Providers / Fido / August 2005Expanded Network: Can someone explain this?
Ok, so my girlfriend gets this huge flyer from Fido saying that effective August 3, 2005 you can use their "expanded" network. To see if you are currently on the expanded network, call [free] *#123#. Of course, this doesnt work. I get "unknown application". The flyer goes on to say that you can talk to your family and friends from Dawson Creek to Kelowna for only $0.25/minute...blah blah blah. So, does this mean that if I am in Kelowna (my home area is Vancouver) and I am roaming on Rogers (which I presume I will have to be) I will get dinged $0.25/minute if I call someone in Kelowa (local call) OR if I receive a call from Vancouver, I get dinged $0.25/minute or $0.20 (see below) ? We also got a pamphlet saying that As of September 19, their long distance rates are going up to $0.20 within Canada and the US. SMS while outside Canada or US is now $0.40 (dunno how much it was before). > Ok, so my girlfriend gets this huge flyer from Fido saying that effective > August 3, 2005 you can use their "expanded" network. To see if you are > currently on the expanded network, call [free] *#123#. Of course, this > doesnt work. I was told this application won't be up until August 3rd. > that you can talk to your family and friends from Dawson Creek to Kelowna > for only $0.25/minute...blah blah blah. Not true. Dawson Creek to Kelowna is long distance, so $0.25 + 0.20 > So, does this mean that if I am in Kelowna (my home area is Vancouver) > and I am roaming on Rogers (which I presume I will have to be) I will get > dinged $0.25/minute if I call someone in Kelowa (local call) OR if I > receive a call from Vancouver, I get dinged $0.25/minute or $0.20 (see > below) ? Correct. And I had heard that long distance rates would double in August 2. Interesting that you would be told September 19. I wonder if it varies depending on where you are in Canada (eg: legal requirements to advise of rate increases X days before they apply). It took me a while too, but I think I have this figured out. Essentially, you'll be billed differently if you are within the Fido footprint (the area where Fido previously had coverage) and if you are on the 'enhanced' network. If you are in the Fido footprint, you'll be billed as you normally are - deducting minutes from your plan and paying 20 cents per minute for long distance. However, if you're outside the Fido footprint, you'll pay 25 cents per minute for all outgoing and incoming calls even if they are long distance and no minutes will be deducted from your plan. Of course, you'll only know if you're on the enhanced network if you use the *#123# application. To get rid of the 25 cents per minute you can pay the $5 for using the enhanced network but I believe in this case you'll be paying the long distance as well as airtime charges. See my coments below. >> Ok, so my girlfriend gets this huge flyer from Fido saying that effective >> August 3, 2005 you can use their "expanded" network. To see if you are >> currently on the expanded network, call [free] *#123#. Of course, this >> doesnt work. > > I was told this application won't be up until August 3rd. That's correct. >> that you can talk to your family and friends from Dawson Creek to Kelowna >> for only $0.25/minute...blah blah blah. > > Not true. Dawson Creek to Kelowna is long distance, so $0.25 + 0.20 No, actually there won't be a LD charge... you'll be paying 25 cents/minute. >> So, does this mean that if I am in Kelowna (my home area is Vancouver) >> and I am roaming on Rogers (which I presume I will have to be) I will get [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > > Correct. We'll all be roaming on Rogers eventually... the question is, are you under Fido footprint? If you are then the 25cents/minute won't apply, you'll be charged as per the package you have. > And I had heard that long distance rates would double in August 2. > Interesting [quoted text clipped - 3 lines] > days > before they apply). > [...] However, if you're outside the Fido footprint, you'll pay 25 > cents per minute for all outgoing and incoming calls even if they are long > distance and no minutes will be deducted from your plan. I think in this case the 25 cents/min is only the airtime charge, with long distance being extra. In the letter I received notifying me of these changes, there is a footnote that states "Long-distance and other charges may apply." > > Not true. Dawson Creek to Kelowna is long distance, so $0.25 + 0.20 > > No, actually there won't be a LD charge... you'll be paying 25 cents/minute. Unless Telus considers Dawson Creek to Kelowna to be a local call, you'll be paying long distance charges on that call. (There are only a very few places in canada where one can make a local call over such a long distance. Eagle Plains Motel to Inuvik being one (about 350km). So essentially, Rogers is boosting the "expanded" costs from $0.20 per minute when using Bell analogue to $0.25 when using Rogers's towers outside of fido areas. In fairness, the $0.25 is to be billed by the second, while the Bell analogue was billed by the minute, so in the end, it may come out about the same. Ok is easy For Long Distance I use Yak for cell: http://www.yak.ca/en/ 0.05$/minutes canada and usa You need to register your cell phone number then dialung local access number. Will be charged on credit card No connection fee. Good rate plan also for oversea call >> > Not true. Dawson Creek to Kelowna is long distance, so $0.25 + 0.20 >> [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > analogue > was billed by the minute, so in the end, it may come out about the same. > http://www.yak.ca/en/ > You need to register your cell phone number then dialung local access > number. Are there prepaid providers that have an 800 number access ? If I am in the boon docks, having to call long distance with Rogers's exhorbitant rates to reach a "local access number" to get yak's rates doesn't give me any advantage. This is good when most of your long distances are done from the city to elsewhere. But where you are in the country, trying to call the city, that doesn't seem to help much. BTW, the spacial code to find out if you are in fido or rogers coverage area is *#123# (I was under the impression it was *#1234# ) Does anyone know how to remove the message you get once you've sent the *#123# command from a siemens M55 ? I tried that code and with my Fido SIM monthly plan in my unlocked Treo 600, I get "No tariff area information available". > > http://www.yak.ca/en/ > > You need to register your cell phone number then dialung local access [quoted text clipped - 17 lines] > Does anyone know how to remove the message you get once you've sent the *#123# > command from a siemens M55 ? > I tried that code and with my Fido SIM monthly plan in my unlocked Treo 600, > I get "No tariff area information available". Yesterday (3rd), that is what I got too. Today, I get a 3 line bilingual message telling me Fido basic network/reseau de base Fido Problem is that the Siemens displays this message as one line that changes every couple of seconds and doesn't stop/go away. Today, I forgot about testing this again while away from the city to see what the message would be for Rogers's coverage areas. Or use Tricell <http://www.tricell.ca> and get 3.9¢/minute to the US and Canada. >Ok is easy > [quoted text clipped - 32 lines] >> analogue >> was billed by the minute, so in the end, it may come out about the same. - - Instead of dialing #123# you must dial *#123# or in other words dial - star pound 123 pound then press end Good luck Behr >Ok, so my girlfriend gets this huge flyer from Fido saying that effective >August 3, 2005 you can use their "expanded" network. To see if you are [quoted text clipped - 12 lines] >distance rates are going up to $0.20 within Canada and the US. SMS while >outside Canada or US is now $0.40 (dunno how much it was before). Please reply within newsgroup ONLY. I do not read emails sent to this address. Thanks.... |
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